Its official, Brent Venables next head coach at OU

Wishbone said:
HCBV plucks Ted Roof from Clemson for defensive coordinator. OC and DC are set and staff is getting close to being complete.
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He was an analyst at Clemson right? BV filling the staff with his friends-that usually works out.
 
outofyourmind said:
I have extinguished my 5 free articles and I'm not pay for it.
What did Tramel say.
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From the Daily Oklahoman​

Tramel's ScissorTales: Let the SEC wait; OU should stay in the Big 12 through 2024 season​

Berry Tramel
Oklahoman

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Since OU announced its intent to join the Southeastern Conference, it’s been widely assumed that the Sooners will exit the Big 12 before the contractual date of June 2025.
OU and Texas clearly want out. Sooner sources have told me so.
ESPN clearly wants to cut off Fox from sharing any Sooner and ‘Horn games.
The SEC probably has no great passion either way, except it also craves the big-money television payouts.
However, December 2021 is different from July 2021. Things have changed.
Several conferences have told the SEC and ESPN to holds its horses over the proposed 12-team College Football Playoff.
And Lincoln Riley re-enacted the tale of Okie migration, taking the Southern Cal job two weeks ago. Half the Sooner coaching staff is gone, and with it untold numbers of OU recruits and perhaps transfers.
The OU Board of Regents vote to approve the invitation to join the SEC athletics conference at OU Health Sciences Center on Friday, July 30, 2021, in Oklahoma City, Okla.


OU quickly has retooled with the hire of familiar face Brent Venables, but nostalgia is a balm that works only until kickoff.
All of which means the Sooners should tap the brakes. No reason to speed toward the SEC. Stay in the Big 12 through the 2024-25 school year.
OU officials keep saying they will honor the contracts. Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby keeps saying he expects the Sooners and Longhorns to stick around that long.
OK. Just do it. Just because it’s college athletics doesn’t mean people have to lie. Anyone who does what they said they would will amaze people, but the Earth will not go off its axis.
“They have told us they will be staying until June 30, ‘25, so that's what we're planning on,” Bowlsby said.
Not that long ago, that did not seem in OU’s best interests. Lame-duck status never is fun, even if you win.
The Sooners and Longhorns know they have fractured relationships. The Sooners and Longhorns know that extended membership in the conference is only going to foster more ill will, be it in stadiums or in conference boardrooms. The Sooners and Longhorns know they’re about to be on the short end of a variety of decisions, be they scheduling matters or administrative issues.




“They're on our board meetings and they’re on our AD (athletic director) calls, so yeah, they're fulling participating,” Bowlsby said.
Well, that’s not 100 percent true. OU and Texas were not involved in Big 12 expansion talks, and it’s possible or even likely that they will be in a league with Brigham Young and perhaps Cincinnati, Houston and Central Florida by 2023, without voting on any of those schools.
But the wild autumn of 2021 makes a few more years in the Big 12 more palpable than immediate SEC immersion.
Starting with the football makeover. Venables seems like a fine choice to replace Riley. Different, in some ways strikingly different, but fine.
Still, Venables does not inherit the immaculately manicured program that Riley inherited in June 2017. Riley was handed a complete staff, a full roster before the explosion of the transfer portal, a full recruiting class and, best of all, a powerhouse team.
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No program in America will pity the Sooners, and OU football 2022 might very well be up to the Sooner standard. But as we stand on this fine Friday, Venables has a new staff, a shaky recruiting class, potential portal problems and doesn’t know for sure if he’s got a scholarship quarterback for next season.
Plus, Venables obviously has designs on a culture change. Shiny and sleek are out. Rough and rugged is in.
“Bowling ball of butcher knives” has become a popular saying over the years. The first person I ever heard use the term was Brent Venables, almost 20 years ago.
I endorse both cultures, Riley’s and Venables’. Both can win.
But culture change takes time. Roster makeover takes time. Why not give Venables a longer runway before he’s thrown into the SEC fire?
The SEC will be tougher than the Big 12. Often, the difference in the leagues is overstated. I figure the typical Big 12 schedule and the typical SEC schedule is a difference of 1.5 games. A good program would win about two thirds of the time, so that’s a difference of one win per year.




So an 11-1 Big 12 team becomes a 10-2 SEC team. A 10-2 Big 12 team becomes a 9-3 SEC team.
It seems wise to give Venables plenty of time to fortify the Sooner roster and prepare for the SEC rigors.
Especially with the playoff situation. The 12-team playoff seemed like an automatic when first proposed in June. But the OU/Texas/SEC news caused some conferences to balk, particularly about ESPN’s heavy involvement.
Now, a 12-team playoff by the 2024 season seems unlikely, and even 2025 is in question.
With a 12-team playoff, OU in the SEC seemed a rather manageable situation. With a four-team playoff, OU in the SEC has Citrus Bowl written all over it.
Don’t misunderstand. The Sooners will be a force in the SEC. But the top of the pyramid is brutal. Alabama is king, and there is scant room elsewhere. The likes of Georgia and Louisiana State eventually will have to make room for OU as threats to Bama, but current circumstances aren’t ideal for the transition.
Better to give Venables time to solidify his program.
There are reasons to stay anyway. The Big 12 wants OU and Texas in the conference as long as possible, for the financial windfall they bring with the television contracts.
OU and Texas each would have to pay an $80 million buyout to leave the Big 12 in summer 2022. That amount goes down substantially each year, but still, even leaving in 2024 would cost a lot of money.
The Sooners could make up that revenue with the SEC windfall. But there is no way to make up for speeding the Venables era into the SEC. Hold your horses, Sooners, and give Venables time to get you SEC-ready.
 
Cowboyinexile said:
www.oklahoman.com

Carlson: Why OU football hiring Jeff Lebby as offensive coordinator falls short of Sooners' high standards

OU athletics espouses the highest standards. Does hiring Jeff Lebby as the Sooners' offensive coordinator meet them?
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And she wrote: "In fact, I have no doubt Lebby will have success at OU."

She is one of those people who never believe in forgiving. Miserable bitch. I've known people like that and so have you. We have hired a lot of people over the years who have spent time in prison because I firmly believe in giving people a second chance. Christianity teaches us redemption. But people like Carlson can sit in church and act so pure then go out into the real world and not practice what they supposedly believe in. I don't care what color someone is, what their background is, who they sleep with or where they're from so long as they are willing to start over and be a good person/citizen. And you know what? About 95% of the time it works out great for them if they're just treated with some respect and given a fair shot at being successful again. I'm no saint. But I've survived some pretty gnarly things in life and if I can give someone else a hand up I'm gonna do it. People like Jenni Carlson are toxic.
 
lol.. if it were up to me, we'd begin SEC play next fall.. Who really cares about waiting around a couple more years to build something. He's either the guy or not..
 
Thiefery said:
lol.. if it were up to me, we'd begin SEC play next fall.. Who really cares about waiting around a couple more years to build something. He's either the guy or not..
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It'll be 1 year. OU, in spite of all the chaos over the past couple of weeks, has the horsepower to mow through the conference again and win a championship. Do that and everything falls into place a lot easier with recruiting and getting the coaching staff in sync. It's a process. No different than a boxer taking an 8 count and then getting up to finish that round and go on to win the fight.
 
Cowboyinexile said:
He was an analyst at Clemson right? BV filling the staff with his friends-that usually works out.
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He has head coaching experience and won an NC in 2010 as DC at Auburn.
 
Here is the best analogy there is for the situation at OU. Most fans knew the program (both offense and defense) was trending in the wrong direction but no one wanted to burn it to the ground and start all over. As fate would have it, the HC (with his DC) suddenly left and it was like seeing the penthouse ripped off a building. But OU was lucky; it had a core of people like Bob Stoops, Joe Castiglione and a few of the current staff still around to quickly start an arduous recovery process. And OU has now ended up with a new HC coach we feel can be a better fit long term in the SEC. Nothing is guaranteed and it may not always be a smooth recovery. But from here OU will start adding back and see if we can build something even better based on our long history of hiring good coordinators who evolve into great coaches. Everyone will be watching. Most outsiders will hope we fail but that is nothing new. And good luck to those who have left the OU program or decided to not join it. When OU was placed on probation just as Barry Switzer was becoming the new HC, the great Bob Devaney said "Be careful, you're just making them mad". And Coach Devaney proved to be right; Oklahoma fought through it to have one of the best runs ever seen in college football.
 
Beamer taking all the OU rejects.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Beamer taking all the OU rejects.
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The offensive talent he just got will probably translate into 2 or 3 more wins.

Still a ways off from taking the East I think...but more competitive for sure.

Rattler doesn't suck.
 
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