Jim Harbaugh gone to NFL

osubuckeye89 said:
who’s defending Meyer?
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You think he'll honestly answer that question? Been asking him that same question now on two different sites. And pretty much the only answer I've ever gotten from him is I'm somehow triggered by simply responding to him.
 
So if Harbaugh did run back to the NFL, Who's the replacement? lol.

Would they do like a 1 year interim coach and then find one at the end of next season? Considering all of the prime candidates have already been gobbled up this cycle?
 
ThePeoplesChicken said:
Yep and yep

As evidence:
tosu fans till revere Woody Hayes who punched a kid, Jim Tressel was a liar who was "fired" with a golden parachute. You frequently cannot have rational conversation with a fan about osu players because they are instantly elevated to greatest ever status until they are not. Then, they don't even want to talk about them. Example? Quinn Ewers. All I heard this past summer was how awesome this kid was going to be and that he would probably win the Heisman. How did that work out? Now he is dead to osu fans
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As far as JH going back to the pros. I think at some point it's inevitable. Because of how competitive he is that S.B. loss to his brother has to burn him up inside.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
So if Harbaugh did run back to the NFL, Who's the replacement? lol.

Would they do like a 1 year interim coach and then find one at the end of next season? Considering all of the prime candidates have already been gobbled up this cycle?
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Honestly, if it happened I wouldn't be shocked if they elevated Gattis; especially given this late in the cycle.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
osubuckeye89 said:
Eh it was a good amount the edge rushers, Stroud had no time to throw most of the game. The oline didnt exactly do any favors when it came to run blocking either tough.

Hopefully we get better stability on oline next year, nagging injuries caused constant shuffling and they struggled to really get into much prolonged consistency all tear.

Utah didn't really push us around. They actually struggled to run the ball for the most part. A few broken play long QB runs make their running stats look better than their actual performance (I know they had over 200 yards, 62 came on that fucking ridiculous QB TD run where our backup TE LBers failed to wrap up and finish the tackle) Thomas their bruiser RB was limited to 18 carries for 67 yards). We really didnt run much because we didnt have to. Averaged 5.5 YPC though as a team. Utah also came up with 0 sacks.
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They ran for 230 yards. Oregon ran for 300. Michigan ran for 300. That is being pushed around. Hell -- Utah had almost 500 yards of offense. Oregon and Michigan had 500 yards of offense on OSU.

OSU had zero game changers on defense this past year. None. They had the one freshman DB that was solid, but nothing special, that was named 2nd team All-B1G. They had no game changers in their front 7. And they especially didn't have any game changers at DE.

They had defensive players for the past 10+ years that were dominate. Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, Chase Young, Denzel Ward, Eli Apple, Marshawn Lattimore, Gareon Conley, Jeffrey Okudah, etc. etc. OSU's defense has nothing like those guys. The defense for OSU this year reminded me of UM's defenses of the past -- they'd dominate the bottom feeders and get run over by the few good teams they played.

And even the OLine for OSU -- you have one of the best RB's in the nation and teams were able to shut him down, but against the bottom feeders he looked like the best RB in CFB.

With the skill position talent that OSU had this past year -- they should have rolled every team sans, Georgia and Bama. The fact they didn't tells you the big issues they have to try and correct.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
It may be a great place, but I guarantee you, it was the last thing Kirby Smart was thinking about when he took the job. He saw arguably the richest recruiting state in all of CFB and the only other in state D1 school to compete for those recruits being GT. It is why LSU is a great job, it is why Lincoln Riley left OU to go to USC. CFB is all about who can collect the most talent and a select few schools have an enormous advantage based on their location.

This isn't poking fun at Athens or any of the cities the top programs are located -- I'm just stating what draws coaches to the schools is the financial backing and the recruiting area.
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:dingdingding: This why Harbaugh probably prefers the pros. Talent is much more evenly distributed in the NFL.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Actually, you should be just like Iowa in that your recruiting grounds are about the same. Illinois should actually be better than you in that they have Chicago and St. Louis to draw from.

Decided to look ... Iowa has more instate blue chips, but it is statistically insignificant. Illinois has 5 times as many (5 to 1). All 50 states, ranked by their percentage of national blue-chip recruits

You have history over both programs, but I just don't see that making a difference as it is so long ago relative to today's CFB and recruits.
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The state of New York as 1? You gotta be shittin' me.

Do they even play high school football in New York? You'd think with that many students they could stumble on to 1/2 dozen at least. In fact, I'll bet there are 1/2 dozen there. They just haven't had the opportunity, the development or both.
 
HammerDown said:
Question for you guys: If Harbaugh went somewhere awful and his tenure was marred by misconduct, dereliction of duty, wholesale disrespect from every warm body in the organization from top-to-bottom and pure, unadulterated hatred from the fans, ending in him going down as quite possibly the worst coach in NFL history, would Michigan fans defend him like Ohio State fans defend Urban Meyer?

@Wamu @ralphiewvu @MAIZEandBLUE09 @Tharvot

Just curious.
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NewPhoneWhoDis said:
They ran for 230 yards. Oregon ran for 300. Michigan ran for 300. That is being pushed around. Hell -- Utah had almost 500 yards of offense. Oregon and Michigan had 500 yards of offense on OSU.

OSU had zero game changers on defense this past year. None. They had the one freshman DB that was solid, but nothing special, that was named 2nd team All-B1G. They had no game changers in their front 7. And they especially didn't have any game changers at DE.

They had defensive players for the past 10+ years that were dominate. Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, Chase Young, Denzel Ward, Eli Apple, Marshawn Lattimore, Gareon Conley, Jeffrey Okudah, etc. etc. OSU's defense has nothing like those guys. The defense for OSU this year reminded me of UM's defenses of the past -- they'd dominate the bottom feeders and get run over by the few good teams they played.

And even the OLine for OSU -- you have one of the best RB's in the nation and teams were able to shut him down, but against the bottom feeders he looked like the best RB in CFB.

With the skill position talent that OSU had this past year -- they should have rolled every team sans, Georgia and Bama. The fact they didn't tells you the big issues they have to try and correct.
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You guys taking one bad defensive year where there was no continuity with scheme or coaching on the xs and os side and expecting it to be the norm carrying forward is pretty funny. The Dline did underperform, yes. I'd expect a lot more of JTT and Sawyer next year though. Not everyone completely dominates as a freshmen. Hell Chase Young was considered a disappointment his freshmen year. Denzel Ward didnt really totally break through until his JR year, Lattimore took 3 years too until he broke out (RSed so declared as a RS SO) There is potential there on all levels still.
 
Some analyst described our defensive scheme this year as "middle school level football" which is completely true. They basically just had guys out there running around doing whatever. That's what happens when you don't really have a defensive coordinator. You can have all the talent in the world but if theres no organization or direction, its a mess.
 
LOL @ this thread floooooooded with Ohio State fans.

“he’d be one of the worst evar!” - Urban lovers
 
broncosmitty said:
What about Mike McDonald?
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I think it's too early to tell for him. I doubt they'd had the head coaching job over after one season in a major coordinator position.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think it's too early to tell for him. I doubt they'd had the head coaching job over after one season in a major coordinator position.
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Do you give Gattis much credit for this season? Ive seen some Michigan fans gushing over him but that offense just screamed Harbaugh controlled.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Do you give Gattis much credit for this season? Ive seen some Michigan fans gushing over him but that offense just screamed Harbaugh controlled.
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I think some of it was. I don't think Gattis want's to run as much as we do. I also think some of the really interesting play calls this year were Gattis; things we haven't seen in any other years under Jim.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
You guys taking one bad defensive year where there was no continuity with scheme or coaching on the xs and os side and expecting it to be the norm carrying forward is pretty funny. The Dline did underperform, yes. I'd expect a lot more of JTT and Sawyer next year though. Not everyone completely dominates as a freshmen. Hell Chase Young was considered a disappointment his freshmen year. Denzel Ward didnt really totally break through until his JR year, Lattimore took 3 years too until he broke out (RSed so declared as a RS SO) There is potential there on all levels still.
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Michigan had a brand new defensive coordinator, running a completely new defense. What you are doing is trying to find excuses for OSU's play on defense. Simply put -- they were pushed around by any team who could play physical. That has nothing to do with scheme or coaching.

It'd be like UM fans saying -- Georgia didn't push us around, it was the schemes fault or the coaches fault. No -- Georgia was simply more physical than UM and won the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

But if it makes you feel better to blame coaching or scheme. Feel free.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Do you give Gattis much credit for this season? Ive seen some Michigan fans gushing over him but that offense just screamed Harbaugh controlled.
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I give Gattis credit for finding a way for UM to have a serviceable passing attack. It wasn't because of talent at WR. Our best WR was lost in the first game of the year and not a single WR on UM would ever see the field for OSU.

So he found a way to work them into the offense with different schemes and trick plays.

Other than that -- it was a whole lot of short passes and power running.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I give Gattis credit for finding a way for UM to have a serviceable passing attack. It wasn't because of talent at WR. Our best WR was lost in the first game of the year and not a single WR on UM would ever see the field for OSU.

So he found a way to work them into the offense with different schemes and trick plays.

Other than that -- it was a whole lot of short passes and power running.
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Pretty much this. Felt like a mix of Gattis passing concepts and Harbaugh Power O.

Really hope we can incorporate the running backs into the passing game next year, especially Edwards.
 
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