Well the word was Leach had accepted the job then your fans or alumni or someone revolted so he tucked his tail and came back to Pullman.
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That goes against Les' DNA. He wasn't willing to change. It really ain't in Coach O's DNA either but he deserves credit for swallowing real hard allowing it to happen.
Which is why I wasn't on board with the Les hire at Kansas. They were not going to attract superior talent like LSU so that formula wasn't going to work.
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yeah.. didn't the fans start revolting first? then Fulmer had to go in and clean it up?
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That was Schiano. Now the AD started talking to him but was fired by the President and replaced by Fulmer. Fulmer went a different direction.
The original AD was dumb. He went after Schiano and did not interview anyone else. When that blew up, he panicked and talked to a bunch of people but the President fired him. There was a donor power struggle behind the scenes and Leach was likely a victim of this mess. The fans would have loved to have Leach, In fact he was in most fans top 3 picks. I think we are going in the right direction now and don't want to change but at the same time, I highly respect Leach and would have loved to have him in Knoxville.
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Les had better play while he was at osu offensively.. and he did it with two really good programs in the south division. Never knew why he couldn't replicate it in BR.. but the guy still won a championship (the weakest in the BCS era, but it still counts)
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you would have loved him, then he would wear on you and the fanbase would be calling for his head... all within 4 seasons
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I think that was the fear with Schiano too. I hate the way that went down. I felt bad for him. The UT fanbase has really been more frustrated with the Haslems constant interference in UT football and the poor decisions by the UT administration that functioned as Haslem lapdog. That is gone for the moment.
I guess I don’t know the details on your end . I just know that Leach went to Knoxville to accept the job and Alex Grinch was offered our head coaching job.
That is what we all heard is the fans/alumni all but threatened the AD if Leach was the head coach.
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Mississippi State is a 6-4 team, who beat another 6-4 team yesterday, maybe 7-3 at the outside.
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I think you are underestimating the air raid. This isn't something SEC opponents are used to seeing...especially Leach's scheme. As soon as a team limits this passing attack you have the SEC's leading rusher you have to stop as well. The defense didn't look great but it really wasn't bad. LSU got 34 points but 7 were off of pick 6's and Miss St was sloppy with turnovers. They can get better, this is only the beginning. I'm not saying they win the SEC but 7-8 wins is pretty realistic. Have to see more though but they have more upside than we've even saw this past Saturday. 7 sacks against this strong LSU OL is pretty impressive in itself.
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David Cutcliffe? Franklin? Those 2 are about as cutting edge as a butter knife
Houston Nutt? Malzahn did come up with the wildcat, but saying Houston Nutt is crazy inventive on offense is just laughable. I do applaud Malzahn for the we have 3 NFL RBs and a shitty QB, so let’s just use that and play old school option football. Nice gimmick, but hardly an offense, but will give you this one
Dan Mullen? Let’s hire someone to run Urban Meyer’s system is crazy or inventive?
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This. Everything Leach does is meant to mitigate his recruiting issues. He tries to get the ball out fast and eliminate the need for great OL and take the opponents more talented DL out of the equation. I doubt he becomes anything more than a thorn in the side of the SEC West. Mostly screwing up their defensive stats and getting the occasional upset. He is one of the few coaches left running a pure version on the Air Raid.
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Having read 4 pages of the thread:
- This game was the perfect alignment for this type of win and loss - LSU had 4 starters back from last year's team. 4. The idea they were ranked in the top 5 is one of the overrating travesties of all time. who didn't see this coming? They also lost their DC, their QB coach. They didn't have a spring to implement their new D. Their top DB was suddenly out of the game, and he's not just a top DB, he's the top DB in the country. Lack of knowledge of the Pirate and their new QB, who played out of his mind, and you have the perfect alignment for this type of win.
- The SEC has the athletes on D to counter, and they have the coaches that will. Give the SEC DCs another couple games, and they will start countering what works for Leach. Doesn't mean he won't win his share, and get MSU top be a top team in the West, but I don't think he can win the conference with it, and I don't think he will be able to recruit much better than MuLLLen did.
- I wish we had drawn someone other than MSU for one of our crossover games, Leach is going to make them a tough out, although I don't seeing him winning consistently.
- Damn Gators just keep getting luckier and luckier this season - TAMU barely beat Vandy ffs.
- I sure am glad that UTjr fucked up and didn't sign him as a coach. Would hate to play him every year with the type of players he could get at UTjr.
- Having Leach and Kiffin in the SEC is fantastic.
- This game was the perfect alignment for this type of win and loss - LSU had 4 starters back from last year's team. 4. The idea they were ranked in the top 5 is one of the overrating travesties of all time. who didn't see this coming? They also lost their DC, their QB coach. They didn't have a spring to implement their new D. Their top DB was suddenly out of the game, and he's not just a top DB, he's the top DB in the country. Lack of knowledge of the Pirate and their new QB, who played out of his mind, and you have the perfect alignment for this type of win.
- The SEC has the athletes on D to counter, and they have the coaches that will. Give the SEC DCs another couple games, and they will start countering what works for Leach. Doesn't mean he won't win his share, and get MSU top be a top team in the West, but I don't think he can win the conference with it, and I don't think he will be able to recruit much better than MuLLLen did.
- I wish we had drawn someone other than MSU for one of our crossover games, Leach is going to make them a tough out, although I don't seeing him winning consistently.
- Damn Gators just keep getting luckier and luckier this season - TAMU barely beat Vandy ffs.
- I sure am glad that UTjr fucked up and didn't sign him as a coach. Would hate to play him every year with the type of players he could get at UTjr.
- Having Leach and Kiffin in the SEC is fantastic.
Just curious. In your opinion, do you think MSU CAN win the conference with any kind of "it" if they are unable to get the caliber of recruits of at Bama, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, etal?
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My Doggies gonna fuck Bama up!
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Strong LSU Offensive Line? WTF...they have one starter back from 2019, the other 4 have a combined 3 starts and two are converted defensive linemen...they let Brennan get sacked 7 times...which is only two less than the combined career totals of the MSU defensive line starters up til this game. LSU was 5-17 on 3rd down and rushed 38 times for 80 yards. Brennan threw two shitty picks among a lot of shitty throws...none of which have anything to do with the air raid.
It's not like Mrs State has never beaten LSU before, hell, they have 3 wins in the last 7 years and beat LSU 37-7 in 2017.
I'm not saying that Leach will not be successful in the SEC, but he's not going to be anymore successful than he was in the Pac-12 or Big 12 where he has 0 championships. Yes, Miss St has more talent than Washington State, but so do all the teams better than them in the SEC.
Leach doesn't put much effort into recruiting. In fact he just throws guys in there expecting results. It's all about the system with him.
While that may be true I'm not sure it would have made any difference considering where he's been. Hell, it'd be hard for Saban and Dabo to recruit to Lubbock and Pullman! Only place I can think of harder to recruit to is El Paso!
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Nope just don’t turn the shit on until the game has started and listen to your teams radio feed. All you have to do to avoid the bullshit.