2020 Talent Composite

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ACC:
1. Clemson (4th nationally)
2. Notre Dame* (9th nationally)
3. Florida State (15th nationally)
4. Miami FL (16th nationally)
5. North Carolina (23rd nationally)
6. Georgia Tech (30th nationally)
7. NC State (31st nationally)
8. Virginia Tech (34th nationally)
9. Pittsburgh (36th nationally)
10. Louisville (48th nationally)
11. Duke (50th nationally)
12. Boston College (57th nationally)
13. Virginia (63rd nationally)
14. Syracuse (65th nationally)
15. Wake Forest (66th nationally)

Big 12:
1. Texas (5th nationally)
2. Oklahoma (8th nationally)
3. TCU (28th nationally)
4. Baylor (41st nationally)
5. Oklahoma State (42nd nationally)
6. West Virginia (44th nationally)
7. Texas Tech (49th nationally)
8. Iowa State (56th nationally)
9. Kansas State (68th nationally)
10. Kansas (69th nationally)

Big Ten:
1. Ohio State (3rd nationally)
2. Penn State (11th nationally)
3. Michigan (14th nationally)
4. Nebraska (25th nationally)
5. Wisconsin (32nd nationally)
6. Michigan State (33rd nationally)
7. Maryland (38th nationally)
8. Illinois (39th nationally)
9. Purdue (40th nationally)
10. Iowa (43rd nationally)
11. Northwestern (46th nationally)
12. Indiana (52nd nationally)
13. Minnesota (60th nationally)
14. Rutgers (62nd nationally)

PAC 12:
1. USC (10th nationally)
2. Oregon (17th nationally)
3. Washington (18th nationally)
4. Stanford (20th nationally)
5. Arizona State (22nd nationally)
6. UCLA (35th nationally)
7. Utah (37th nationally)
8. Colorado (45th nationally)
9. Oregon State (51st nationally)
10. California (59th nationally)
11. Arizona (72nd nationally)
12. Washington State (74th nationally)

SEC:
1. Georgia (1st nationally)
2. Alabama (2nd nationally)
3. Texas A&M (6th nationally)
4. LSU (7th nationally)
5. Auburn (12th nationally)
6. Tennessee (13th nationally)
7. Florida (19th nationally)
8. South Carolina (21st nationally)
9. Mississippi State (24th nationally)
10. Arkansas (26th nationally)
11. Kentucky (27th nationally)
12. Ole Miss (29th nationally)
13. Missouri (47th nationally)
14. Vanderbilt (54th nationally)

Top 10 G5:
1. Houston (53rd nationally)
2. SMU (55th nationally)
3. Cincinnati (58th nationally)
4. UCF (61st nationally)
5. Memphis (64th nationally)
6. Boise State (67th nationally)
7. USF (70th nationally)
8. ECU (71st nationally)
9. Tulane (73rd nationally)
10. BYU (75th nationally)
 
Did you take into account teams that have players sitting out?
 
Source? How did you arrive at these figures?
 
Hopefully this translates for my Horns on the field this season.. (it will).
 
Talent Composite

Don't think you have to be a 247 member. I logged out and could still see it.
 
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Just so you know, it's not perfect. It's off right now in a number of places. For example, UF is not 19. They are missing a couple of players. One example is that Brenton Cox, who will show up as a 5* for UF is missing. He isn't on the UGA roster, which is where he transferred from. He's in Limbo somewhere.

Evidently they farmed this out to a 3rd party who screwed it up and they are now cleaning up the mess.

There are imperfections here ... it uses high school recruiting stars and rankings, when we know that some players live up the hype, others don't, and some perform far better than expected. But, there is no upside for 247 to recalculate thousands of players rankings. They have a hard time just keeping up with who is on the 130 teams' rosters.
 
Average Rating per player:

ACC:
Clemson - 90.59
Notre Dame - 90.01
Florida State - 88.99
Miami FL - 88.80
North Carolina - 87.11
Georgia Tech - 86.48
Louisville - 85.65
Virginia Tech - 85.62
NC State - 85.51
Pittsburgh - 85.44
Duke - 85.30
Virginia - 84.46
Syracuse - 84.23
Boston College - 84.18
Wake Forest - 83.83

Big 12:
Texas - 90.39
Oklahoma - 89.78
TCU - 86.47
Baylor - 85.53
Oklahoma State - 85.22
West Virginia - 85.18
Texas Tech - 84.52
Iowa State - 84.40
Kansas State - 83.66
Kansas - 82.32

Big Ten:
Ohio State - 92.89
Penn State - 90.15
Michigan - 89.58
Nebraska - 87.10
Maryland - 86.29
Michigan State - 85.81
Wisconsin - 85.68
Northwestern - 85.12
Illinois - 85.01
Iowa - 84.78
Indiana - 84.66
Purdue - 84.49
Minnesota - 84.30
Rutgers - 83.75

PAC 12:
USC - 89.72
Oregon - 89.06
Washington - 88.92
Stanford - 88.00
Arizona State - 87.24
Utah - 85.08
UCLA - 85.07
Colorado - 84.94
California - 84.52
Oregon State - 84.38
Arizona - 83.35
Washington State - 82.58

SEC:
Georgia - 93.27
Alabama - 93.25
LSU - 91.21
Florida - 89.93
Texas A&M - 89.83
Auburn - 89.58
Tennessee - 89.34
South Carolina - 87.63
Mississippi State - 87.37
Kentucky - 86.95
Ole Miss - 86.65
Arkansas - 86.43
Missouri - 84.90
Vanderbilt - 84.46

Top 10 G5:
Cincinnati - 84.39
UCF - 84.12
SMU - 83.80
Houston - 83.74
Boise State - 83.62
FAU - 83.45
Memphis - 83.41
USF - 83.32
LA Tech - 82.53
Colorado State - 82.42
 
Kliemann (sp?) is a goner. That is a good ROI happening there folks.
 
occupant said:
Kliemann (sp?) is a goner. That is a good ROI happening there folks.
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He just got an extension, but I bet in another season or two..Nebraska will come at him hard.
 
duckboy33 said:
ACC:
1. Clemson (4th nationally)
2. Notre Dame* (9th nationally)

Big 12:
1. Texas (5th nationally)
2. Oklahoma (8th nationally)

Big Ten:
1. Ohio State (3rd nationally)

PAC 12:
1. USC (10th nationally)

SEC:
1. Georgia (1st nationally)
2. Alabama (2nd nationally)
3. Texas A&M (6th nationally)
4. LSU (7th nationally)
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So, when we don't include 2018, 2019, these are the teams that come with the best talent before the team even begins developing them? Correct?

And odds are high that the CFP teams will come from this list, correct? Well, Ithink we can already eliminate the Big 12 and one of the SEC schools. I would say USC is on thin ice but the PAC 12 may allow them to go undefeated but not likely. Now we are down to six. So, the four will come between Clem, ND, Ohio State, Georgia, Bama and Texas A&M. (My aggie neighbor will be totally intollerable."

Since the odds of any other team wrecking this party aren't very good, the only possibility of the 4 CFP teams DO NOT come from the remaining teams is if COVID19 casts some weird voodoo on several of these teams which allows some undeserving low talent level team get in. Oh, the horror.
 
Deep Creek said:
So, when we don't include 2018, 2019, these are the teams that come with the best talent before the team even begins developing them? Correct?

And odds are high that the CFP teams will come from this list, correct? Well, Ithink we can already eliminate the Big 12 and one of the SEC schools. I would say USC is on thin ice but the PAC 12 may allow them to go undefeated but not likely. Now we are down to six. So, the four will come between Clem, ND, Ohio State, Georgia, Bama and Texas A&M. (My aggie neighbor will be totally intollerable."

Since the odds of any other team wrecking this party aren't very good, the only possibility of the 4 CFP teams DO NOT come from the remaining teams is if COVID19 casts some weird voodoo on several of these teams which allows some undeserving low talent level team get in. Oh, the horror.
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Teams outside the top 10 have made the CFP. They didn't end up winning the CFP but they have made it. Take a deep breath, relax and let's see how the season plays out. History tells us someone in the top 10 will win, likely someone in the top 5.
 
duckboy33 said:
Teams outside the top 10 have made the CFP. They didn't end up winning the CFP but they have made it. Take a deep breath, relax and let's see how the season plays out. History tells us someone in the top 10 will win, likely someone in the top 5.
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Sure they have. How many of 'em?

And taking deep breaths is in my current therapy since I just spent two frickin' days in the hosptial's COVID 19 unit! But I need deep breaths because of that, not this shit. I'm just stating the obvious. Gotta have high talent or hope for that magical time like Disneyland can provide.

What are the odds of one team from outsie the top 10 making it? (Likely higher this year than any other year. Hell, we could get two of three from outside the top 10 if their rosters stay clean and the top 10's rosters go completely to shit.)
 
Deep Creek said:
Sure they have. How many of 'em?

And taking deep breaths is in my current therapy since I just spent two frickin' days in the hosptial's COVID 19 unit! But I need deep breaths because of that, not this shit. I'm just stating the obvious. Gotta have high talent or hope for that magical time like Disneyland can provide.

What are the odds of one team from outsie the top 10 making it? (Likely higher this year than any other year. Hell, we could get two of three from outside the top 10 if their rosters stay clean and the top 10's rosters go completely to shit.)
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Think Clemson was the only one.. they had avg from #8-#16 classes prior to their first win.. Last cycle was the first top 5 class IIRC
 
Deep Creek said:
Sure they have. How many of 'em?

And taking deep breaths is in my current therapy since I just spent two frickin' days in the hosptial's COVID 19 unit! But I need deep breaths because of that, not this shit. I'm just stating the obvious. Gotta have high talent or hope for that magical time like Disneyland can provide.

What are the odds of one team from outsie the top 10 making it? (Likely higher this year than any other year. Hell, we could get two of three from outside the top 10 if their rosters stay clean and the top 10's rosters go completely to shit.)
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Hopefully you're ok and everyone you know is ok. I've had a few relatives test positive for Covid but luckily have had mild symptoms.

As for teams outside the top 10 making the CFP, here's the list:
2014 Oregon* They didn't create the talent composite until 2015 but they wouldn't have been in the top 10
2015 Clemson - Ranked 13th
2015 Oklahoma - Ranked 16th
2015 Michigan State - Ranked 23rd
2016 Washington - Ranked 24th
2017 Oklahoma - Ranked 16th
2018 Oklahoma - Ranked 11th
 
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