ACC Doubles Down on Stupid

Won't ever happen. Conference championship games are still objectively retarded.

Always have been.
 
fishinabarrel said:
ND isn't in a conference. Your model would have been Clemson/UGA/ASU/Oregon.

That list includes team ranked from 1-16 in the final CFP rankings and leaves out 3-11 and 13-15. That is absolutely an awful playoff set up.
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I like a setup that’s based on merit and not arbitrary rankings. That’s always been the issue with the college football system.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I like a setup that’s based on merit and not arbitrary rankings. That’s always been the issue with the college football system.
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So what was your reason for saying teams didn't deserve byes this season? They got it based on merit (won their conference) but you seem to say they didnt deserve based off what?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I like a setup that’s based on merit and not arbitrary rankings. That’s always been the issue with the college football system.
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The "best" system going forward is probably just going to 16 teams, no auto bids just whoever is 1-16 in the final CFP poll. I know that's still "arbitrary" but you are really getting everyone fitting and then some at that point. If some 4 loss team who finished #17 is crying they can GTFO.
 
fishinabarrel said:
So what was your reason for saying teams didn't deserve byes this season? They got it based on merit (won their conference) but you seem to say they didnt deserve based off what?
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G5. B12. Lesser conferences and leagues. We need to establish the P4 and kick all other teams to the curb.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
The "best" system going forward is probably just going to 16 teams, no auto bids just whoever is 1-16 in the final CFP poll. I know that's still "arbitrary" but you are really getting everyone fitting and then some at that point. If some 4 loss team who finished #17 is crying they can GTFO.
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I hate this. Then the playoff becomes like 1/3 of the season.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I hate this. Then the playoff becomes like 1/3 of the season.
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I'd say they need to eliminate OOC games basically, or go down to just 1 but I doubt that ever happens, the networks aren't missing out on those extra games.

They really need to start the whole regular season a week earlier, I like the title game being played on like Jan 12-14 a lot better than on Jan 20th.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'd say they need to eliminate OOC games basically, or go down to just 1 but I doubt that ever happens, the networks aren't missing out on those extra games.

They really need to start the whole regular season a week earlier, I like the title game being played on like Jan 12-14 a lot better than on Jan 20th.
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I think moving forward there’s very little likeliness that the best team is coming out of the ACC or B12, which is also another uncomfy conversation that will likely be had.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think moving forward there’s very little likeliness that the best team is coming out of the ACC or B12, which is also another uncomfy conversation that will likely be had.
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I think it'll be a long way down the road before if ever the ACC and Big 12 are basically eliminated.

IMO we will see the Big 10 and SEC get far more favoritism from the CFP though. I doubt they are going to be willing to give a team like SMU the benefit of the doubt again after the showing that had this year. I think they threw them the bone this year to see how it would go, and they blew it.
 
Creating 2 mega super conferences basically like the NFC and AFC would be a good model, but I think these people are kidding themselves and still trying to spin that college football is different from the NFL.

32 teams, 4 divisions of 8 teams

Top 2 teams from each division make the playoffs. 8 "Big 10" teams and 8 "SEC" teams.

Conference winners play for the title.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'd say they need to eliminate OOC games basically, or go down to just 1 but I doubt that ever happens, the networks aren't missing out on those extra games.

They really need to start the whole regular season a week earlier, I like the title game being played on like Jan 12-14 a lot better than on Jan 20th.
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I'd like them to create a B1G vs SEC the second week of the season as one of the OOC games every year. That would get huge ratings and you could start the weekend on Thursday because every game is going to get eyeballs.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I'd like them to create a B1G vs SEC the second week of the season as one of the OOC games every year. That would get huge ratings and you could start the weekend on Thursday because every game is going to get eyeballs.
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I think there should be some sort of 3rd party unbiased schedule maker. But I doubt that's ever gonna happen.

The conferences are gonna start strategically forming their schedules to try to maximize the amount of playoff teams they can possibly get. This is going to end up with complete shit regular seasons.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
ACC will do this then the Big 12 will sit their 1st and 2nd place teams and have the 3rd and 4th place team play some exhibition game instead.
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Yormark wouldn’t do anything like that. He’s the type of guy that wants the ratings and would do something ridiculous like play the conference champ game on The USS Ford.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think moving forward there’s very little likeliness that the best team is coming out of the ACC or B12, which is also another uncomfy conversation that will likely be had.
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That’s when the B1G and SEC start asking (or demanding) they get a certain amount of auto bids each. Especially if this eventually goes to 16. I’ve stated in another thread should 16 be the number, no byes and the B1G and SEC get 4 auto bids each while the B12/ACC each get 2, and the G5 get 1 leaving 3 at large bids (2 since ND likely gets one most years). Most years that means the SEC/B1G will likely have 5 bids a piece. I think that would suffice both of them for at least a little while.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I think moving forward there’s very little likeliness that the best team is coming out of the ACC or B12, which is also another uncomfy conversation that will likely be had.
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Yes, the odds are low a team from either conference will win a natty going forward. Especially if they can't land multiple top 10 recruiting classes. The "uncomfy conversation" is whether teams from those conferences deserve a shot to win one. (Similar to March Madness. Most of those conferences don't have a realistic shot at winning it but the likes of St Peter's have had chances.) It seems both the B1G and SEC want to give them (and a G5 team) a shot. The B1G and SEC have enough of the control so they can change that belief in the future.

But, the Big 12 and ACC aren't quite the same in regards to the CFP era. ACC's had more success.

Not counting SMU and ASU this year and taking Oklahoma and Texas out, the only Big 12 team to make the CFP is TCU. A single CFP win.

The ACC has had FSU and Clemson with Clemson winning multiple CFP games.
 
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