AP Poll is interesting ...

michaeljordan_fan said:
All this bluster about Indiana, and yet Texas is poised to do the exact same thing with a loss to A&M.
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I'm with you on that brother! Texas had a free ride in the SEC this year and is way over ranked based on their resume. However, they did go to the B1G House and clock Michigan. :) Seriously, I hope Texas loses @ Arkansas and @ Texas A&M and slips to the Citrus Bowl. I also would cheer for Indiana vs. Texas in the CFP!
 
78Cyclones said:
I can live with #9, but if they finish (11-1) with 0 quality wins, they just flat out do not deserve to host a First Round Game.
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I don't think they'll host at 11-1. If there were a bunch of 1 loss teams ahead of them when they were undefeated, I can see teams like Bama and UGA being ahead of them with 2 losses. If results go as expected this is the likely outcome IMO:

#5. B1G/SEC CG loser
#6. B1G/SEC CG loser

ND at 11-1 is likely ahead, and then one of Bama/UGA.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Sure he can. He's been ridiculous this entire discussion.

Probably bitter that Iowa State only has Vandy for company in the "Never Won 10 Games Club"
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Me?
Not even a concern!
Iowa State does have a better B1G win: @ Iowa (6-4) than IU does this year though. :)
 
ericd7633 said:
I don't think they'll host at 11-1. If there were a bunch of 1 loss teams ahead of them when they were undefeated, I can see teams like Bama and UGA being ahead of them with 2 losses. If results go as expected this is the likely outcome IMO:

#5. B1G/SEC CG loser
#6. B1G/SEC CG loser

ND at 11-1 is likely ahead, and then one of Bama/UGA.
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#5 will be the B1G CCG loser since this is #1 vs #2.

#6 is more interesting with Penn State hanging around. If Penn State is already above SEC #2 before the CCG, it's not like that team is going to get a bump over PSU for losing.
 
Across The Field said:
Not really. Wazzou is a G5 this year from a scheduling perspective, and a bad one at that, yet have several struggles with low end teams. You just made fun of Indiana for beating michigan by 5, yet that same michigan team had a much easier time with Fresno than Wazzou did, did they not? You can't sit there and rip Indiana's schedule while also trying to pump up a win over Texas Tech.
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I honestly don't think their schedules are all that different, at this point. But IU has to play OSU, which will obviously help a ton.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
#5 will be the B1G CCG loser since this is #1 vs #2.

#6 is more interesting with Penn State hanging around. If Penn State is already above SEC #2 before the CCG, it's not like that team is going to get a bump over PSU for losing.
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That's true in regards to PSU. It would actually work in the SEC's favor if Texas won out then lost the SECCG. In that scenario, my guess is they put Texas at #6. But I think IU at 11-1 has about a 5% chance at hosting a game.
 
ericd7633 said:
That's true in regards to PSU. It would actually work in the SEC's favor if Texas won out then lost the SECCG. In that scenario, my guess is they put Texas at #6. But I think IU at 11-1 has about a 5% chance at hosting a game.
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Really just depends how close the OSU game is. Blowout and they might miss it all completely. Close game and it is 50/50 depending on SEC results.
 
78Cyclones said:
I was making fun of Indiana beating Michigan (5-5) by 5 and it IMPROVING their SOS. I have no issue if IU and Wash. State are both (11-1), compared and IU is determined to be better.
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Be fair, you made a crack about them only winning by 5 as well. It should have been by more, but still.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Really just depends how close the OSU game is. Blowout and they might miss it all completely. Close game and it is 50/50 depending on SEC results.
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Even with a close loss I'd be really surprised. They'd have to finish #6 or higher in the rankings (assuming they are ahead of the ACC/B12 champ). I think the path is really limited.
 
Across The Field said:
Not really. Wazzou is a G5 this year from a scheduling perspective, and a bad one at that, yet have several struggles with low end teams. You just made fun of Indiana for beating michigan by 5, yet that same michigan team had a much easier time with Fresno than Wazzou did, did they not? You can't sit there and rip Indiana's schedule while also trying to pump up a win over Texas Tech.
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P.S. Not trying to pump up a win over TT, but it is as good of a win as IU has this year. I think IU wins the tale of the tape over Wash. State too, I just think it is a more logical comparison than say IU (11-1) vs. Alabama (10-2), Georgia (10-2), etc. Not sure why B1G folks cannot simply admit that IU has had a candy cane schedule like none I have ever seen in the B1G over the years. Man, it's just awful.
 
ericd7633 said:
Even with a close loss I'd be really surprised. They'd have to finish #6 or higher in the rankings (assuming they are ahead of the ACC/B12 champ). I think the path is really limited.
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No faith in BYU?
 
78Cyclones said:
P.S. Not trying to pump up a win over TT, but it is as good of a win as IU has this year. I think IU wins the tale of the tape over Wash. State too, I just think it is a more logical comparison than say IU (11-1) vs. Alabama (10-2), Georgia (10-2), etc. Not sure why B1G folks cannot simply admit that IU has had a candy cane schedule like none I have ever seen in the B1G over the years. Man, it's just awful.
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Who's arguing that about Indiana's SOS? You keep telling us what we already know.

The committee doesn't seem to care.
 
ericd7633 said:
I honestly don't think their schedules are all that different, at this point. But IU has to play OSU, which will obviously help a ton.
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Washington is a wash for both teams, I'd argue Tech and Nebraska are a wash at this point, so then you have Indiana having obliterated UCLA (who suddenly looks like they have life), beat michigan, obliterated MSU/NW/Maryland (all 4-5 but all having faced significantly tougher schedules than anyone Wazzou has beaten). Wazzou got smoked by Boise, and has otherwise faced nobodies with some real close calls. Not sure where the comparison is in terms of schedule.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
No faith in BYU?
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They aren't playing as well as they were the first 6 weeks of the season. So I can see them slipping up at some point. I could also see them losing to Colorado in the B12 CG. Which would make things crazy bc than Boise is looking like it would get the bye.
 
78Cyclones said:
P.S. Not trying to pump up a win over TT, but it is as good of a win as IU has this year. I think IU wins the tale of the tape over Wash. State too, I just think it is a more logical comparison than say IU (11-1) vs. Alabama (10-2), Georgia (10-2), etc. Not sure why B1G folks cannot simply admit that IU has had a candy cane schedule like none I have ever seen in the B1G over the years. Man, it's just awful.
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I don't think anyone on here or in real life would call IU a logical comparison to Bama or Georgia, but from a schedule standpoint, even with them having missed all the top teams in the B1G to this point, they've still played significantly more talented teams than Wazzou has from a week to week basis, and they've been more dominant in doing so as well.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
#5 will be the B1G CCG loser since this is #1 vs #2.

#6 is more interesting with Penn State hanging around. If Penn State is already above SEC #2 before the CCG, it's not like that team is going to get a bump over PSU for losing.
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One other note in favor of Penn State, they have one of the two best OOC wins (@ West Virginia) of the four B1G teams in the CFP hunt - along with Oregon's win over Boise State.
 
Deep Creek said:
They are a great story and aren't bad by any means. I'd say they were well above average. Just not what some are making them out to be......yet. They may damn well end up there.
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It's one of the reasons the 12 is great ... we will see how good teams like OM, even UGA this year, and UI, PSU are. No more guessing. Decide it on the field.
 
78Cyclones said:
One other note in favor of Penn State, they have one of the two best OOC wins (@ West Virginia) of the four B1G teams in the CFP hunt - along with Oregon's win over Boise State.
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The committee loves them some PSU.

I don't really see it, but it's not up to me.
 
Across The Field said:
Washington is a wash for both teams, I'd argue Tech and Nebraska are a wash at this point, so then you have Indiana having obliterated UCLA (who suddenly looks like they have life), beat michigan, obliterated MSU/NW/Maryland (all 4-5 but all having faced significantly tougher schedules than anyone Wazzou has beaten). Wazzou got smoked by Boise, and has otherwise faced nobodies with some real close calls. Not sure where the comparison is in terms of schedule.
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Just having played the Boise State game alone makes them close, again at this point, because IU hasn't played OSU yet. Once that game gets played there will be a pretty sizable gap between the two. Plus Wazzu's schedule down the stretch is absolutely shit. The scheduling metrics, at this point are very similar. Once the full 12 games are played the gap will be sizable (I'd say probably about a 30-35 point difference).
 
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