AP POLL - SEPT 29

Red_Alert said:
LSU beat writer.

He's got A&M #15.
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Odd that you have such a hard on over A&M being tied for 25th because we lost to ND. USC at 11 meanwhile is cool by you having lost to shit ass Michigan and looking like dogshit for half the game against Wiscy.

Must be B1G bias

carry on
 
fordman84 said:
Odd that you have such a hard on over A&M being tied for 25th because we lost to ND. USC at 11 meanwhile is cool by you having lost to shit ass Michigan and looking like dogshit for half the game against Wiscy.

Must be B1G bias

carry on
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I posted my poll and I have both undefeated/unranked Pitt and Rutgers ranked ahead of ALL one loss teams.
 
Red_Alert said:
I posted my poll and I have both undefeated/unranked Pitt and Rutgers ranked ahead of ALL one loss teams.
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cool

And your post after post bitching about USC are where? I'd like to go upvote them.
 
Red_Alert said:
LSU beat writer.

He's got A&M #15.
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I don't have them at 15 but PR models love A&M because of their talent more or less
They would be favored vs a number of teams in the top 25
 
fordman84 said:
cool

And your post after post bitching about USC are where? I'd like to go upvote them.
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USC lost in the Big House by 3 pts on a Michigan TD with :37 remaining.

A&M lost in College Station by 10 pts to a team that lost in South Bend to Northern Illinois.

That being said, fuck USC.
Pitt and Rutgers should be ranked ahead of them.

Happy?
 
TaikoTiger said:
I don't have them at 15 but PR models love A&M because of their talent more or less
They would be favored vs a number of teams in the top 25
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You can have all the talent in the world and not get the pieces put together and get them lined up right.

See Florida and past tejas and USC teams.
 
Red_Alert said:
USC lost in the Big House by 3 pts on a Michigan TD with :37 remaining.
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So they lost
Red_Alert said:
A&M lost in College Station by 10 pts to a team that lost in South Bend to Northern Illinois.
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They also lost
Red_Alert said:
That being said, fuck USC.
Pitt and Rutgers should be ranked ahead of them.

Happy?
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Never was unhappy. The SEC rant this morning was pretty good considering the glaring B1G bias that is just as bad. The #11 team has beat literally no one, lost to what is probably the worst top 25 team, and your focus goes right to the SEC. hmm
 
"The #1 team in the SEC is tied for 25th? THIS IS A TRAVESTY AND CLEAR BIAS!!!" was a nice touch this morning. Thank you for the laughs.
 
Red_Alert said:
That is my point.

If they're really the #5 team there's plenty of time for them to work their way back up there. LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE (who's not SEC) HAS TO DO.

Georgia trailed 30-7 at halftime.
Never mind that, because SEC teams are not held as accountable as other teams for losses or shitty play.

Case in point MISSOURI moved up two spots to #9 after needing double overtime to beat VANDY on a missed FG in Columbia, MO.
Yep.... The same VANDY that had just lost to Georgia St the week before.
Not Georgia, nope. Georgia fucking STATE. The same Georgia STATE that Georgia SOUTHERN just beat.
Do you know Georgia STATE scored more points on Vandy than Missouri did?

The reason Missouri is ranked #9 is because they're SEC. When a fellow SEC team beats them it'll be "Hey they just beat a Top 10 team".
A&M is ranked #25 despite losing by 10 points to Notre Dame in College Station, TX.
The SAME Notre Dame that lost to fucking Northern Illinois.
A&M is ranked so they can say "Missouri just beat a ranked team".
If A&M wins that game they'll be launched into the Top 15 because...... "Hey, they just beat a #9 team".

Again.... SEC teams are not held as accountable as other teams are for losses or shitty play.

The reason you're fine with Georgia only dropping to #5 is because tejas plays them in a couple weeks. If tejas wins you can say "Hey, we beat the #5 team".
If tejas loses then it'll be"Hey, we lost to the #5 team so should only drop a couple spots."
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Personally, I don't care where we are right now. But what we do have going for us is that we've played 4 games, 3 against Clemson, Alabama, and Kentucky with that win @Ky looking better after they beat Ole Miss at home. We'll see how good Clemson and Kentucky are as the season goes on, but right now we probably have played one of the toughest schedules so far, are 3-1, with an instant classic loss to the no. 1 team. They weren't going to drop us too far.

As for trailing 30-7, which team do you think should be in front of us that would have done better, coming back in that environment, and gotten a lead and then being back in scoring position to win. I was at the game and it was the wildest environment I've ever been in and I've been to a lot of games in a lot of stadiums. We got punched in the mouth and got back up. Seriously, you tell me which teams ranked behind us would be able to do that and then move them ahead of us.

Again, I don't really care where we are - we have to go to Texas and Ole Miss, and play UTjr at home. We'll either be the first half team or the second half team and it will take care of itself.
 
TaikoTiger said:
UGA got so lucky that they played stubborn Dabo and didn't start Wesco, Moore in game 1 :tsk:
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Luck, sure. You guys have won games against G5 App State, NSCU who sucks this year, and Stanford. Perhaps the reason you suddenly look good is you are playing some of the worst teams in CFB. You got your ass whipped by the better team.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Personally, I don't care where we are right now. But what we do have going for us is that we've played 4 games, 3 against Clemson, Alabama, and Kentucky with that win @Ky looking better after they beat Ole Miss at home. We'll see how good Clemson and Kentucky are as the season goes on, but right now we probably have played one of the toughest schedules so far, are 3-1, with an instant classic loss to the no. 1 team. They weren't going to drop us too far.

As for trailing 30-7, which team do you think should be in front of us that would have done better, coming back in that environment, and gotten a lead and then being back in scoring position to win. I was at the game and it was the wildest environment I've ever been in and I've been to a lot of games in a lot of stadiums. We got punched in the mouth and got back up. Seriously, you tell me which teams ranked behind us would be able to do that and then move them ahead of us.

Again, I don't really care where we are - we have to go to Texas and Ole Miss, and play UTjr at home. We'll either be the first half team or the second half team and it will take care of itself.
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Well my point is that Georgia having a loss (regardless of to whom) should have to work their way back up the polls like everybody else (not sec) does.

If they're truly a Top 5 team in the country, then they should have no problem doing that considering they have 8 more games to play + the SEC Championship, right?
 
Red_Alert said:
You can have all the talent in the world and not get the pieces put together and get them lined up right.

See Florida and past tejas and USC teams.
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This

Computer rankings / PR models are good when they have alot of games to go by but they can be pretty stupid in the beginning of the year when then they have so much weight on talent, returning production, etc. A human can watch a game or two and see a team is not going to work vs CPUs take weeks to fade out their preseason assumptions on a team
 
TaikoTiger said:
This

Computer rankings / PR models are good when they have alot of games to go by but they can be pretty stupid in the beginning of the year when then they have so much weight on talent, returning production, etc. A human can watch a game or two and see a team is not going to work vs CPUs take weeks to fade out their preseason assumptions on a team
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Sounds like an answer about Indiana and Rutgers, to be fair.
 
fishinabarrel said:
Why? scUM does have a win over the current 11 ranked team but got beat soundly by a top ranked team.

Clemson got beat soundly by a top ranked team but has no signature win. ND lost to a freaking MAC team who hasn't won a game since
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There's a reason UM is underdogs to an unranked 3-2 UW team. Vegas doesn't have to pretend they are good because of the preseason expectations.
 
Red_Alert said:
Well my point is that Georgia having a loss (regardless of to whom) should have to work their way back up the polls like everybody else (not sec) does.

If they're truly a Top 5 team in the country, then they should have no problem doing that considering they have 8 more games to play + the SEC Championship, right?
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I think you will have to adjust to the idea that you can't simply count losses to determine what order teams should be in. Historically, the CFP has basically looked at zero loss teams, then one loss, then two loss, etc. The polls often do that, but with exceptions.

The problem that exists today is the absolute disparity between the SEC/B1G, and then the other conferences. SEC/B1G teams are going to get some credit for the fact that they are going to play tougher schedules, for the most part. An 10-2 Clemson isn't necessarily going to get in over a 9-3 SEC school when that SEC school likely played a way tougher schedule.

In this instance, as I stated above, the polls look at a team that beat Clemson, and a Kentucky team that appears better than their loss to USCjr indicated, and then lost @ no. 1 Bama in a hell of a game. When you have huge disparities in conference strength and schedules, there has to be some subjective consideration, not just counting losses as you seem to support.

As I said, I don't really care, and if we had dropped to the place of the top 1 loss team, I couldn't have cared less for the reason you state ... we have to beat Auburn and MSU, then go and beat Texas. Then beat @Ole Miss, UTjr and others. We lose more than 1 more, we likely miss the CFP, regardless of how hard the schedule is. So, while I don't care, (1) I think I see that a subjective evaluation has to be made, and (2) I know for a fact that just counting losses can't be the way it is determined anymore (not sure that was ever a good idea).

Finally, if, for some reason, the CFP just counts losses and you see a 2 loss Clemson get in before a 3 loss UGA team, as an example, I can guarantee you the SEC and the B1G will force the 3 guaranteed spots for each of the P2 that they raised earlier in the year. The P2 expects the CFP Committee to properly look beyond the number of losses.
 
So, in the AP Top 25, only Georgia, Boise State, and Kansas State have played all teams that have a winning record (not counting FCS).

Damn, poor Kent State. Played Tennessee, Pitt, and Penn State. Same for Akron. Played South Carolina, Ohio State, and Rutgers.
 
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