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Collegefbfan said:
Wonder if they know Clemson hasn't defeated a team with a winning record. However, opportunities coming.
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Eye Test

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Across The Field said:
As impressive as it is to beat Bama and hang with Texas, it is equally unimpressive to lose to 2-5 Georgia State and struggle with a really bad Ball State team.
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Vandy this year is basically those mediocre record Purdue teams that have given Ohio State shit in the past

They can hang around and scare or maybe even beat good teams, but they also can go out and struggle with/lose to some shit sub .500 G5 teams.
 
fordman84 said:
rules experts on TV are wrong every week.

Which means he was illegally downfield.

Impact on the play doesn't mean it isn't a foul.

No, it was a blowout because your coach is full of gimmicks and didn't prepare the team.

QB said that it is louder at practice. Guess he was wrong.

k. Go back to beating up on bad teams and thinking your team is any good.
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Mizzou has been better than A&M since we moved to the SEC….good to see you actually doing something. I hope you beat Texas
 
Mutiger said:
Mizzou has been better than A&M since we moved to the SEC….good to see you actually doing something. I hope you beat Texas
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I'm sure you believe that, but can't think of a stat that confirms your statement.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I know it's relatively pointless to argue #25 but these type of situations seem to convinently always favor the SEC

Another top 25 win for some SEC school!
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It has to do with their win over Bama and that’s what the voters remember.

Schedule and wins matter and Vandy has a solid resume in that regard plus people just want to see them do well.

So my counter argument would be that it’s not necessarily the SEC but SOS.
 
Mutiger said:
Mizzou has been better than A&M since we moved to the SEC….good to see you actually doing something. I hope you beat Texas
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Not sure where your view is coming from but I'd say the data indicates the teams are pretty even since joining the SEC. Mizzou is 47-53 since joining the SEC and A&M is 52-45. Take out the COVID year and Mizzou is 42-48 and A&M is 44-44. Feel free to check my numbers. Mizzou does have two CCG appearances to A&M's zero. But A&M played in the SEC West which was considered more difficult until the last few years when Georgia brought up the SEC East.

Mizzou
2012 - 2-6
2013 - 7-2
2014 - 7-2
2015 - 1-7
2016 - 2-6
2017 - 4-4
2018 - 4-4
2019 - 3-5
2020 - 5-5 (COVID)
2021 - 3-5
2022 - 3-5
2023 - 6-2

Total 47-53

A&M
2012 - 6-2
2013 - 4-4
2014 - 3-5
2015 - 4-4
2016 - 4-4
2017 - 4-4
2018 - 5-3
2019 - 4-4
2020 - 8-1 (COVID)
2021 - 4-4
2022 - 2-6
2023 - 4-4

TOTAL 52-45
 
Deep Creek said:
Not sure where your view is coming from but I'd say the data indicates the teams are pretty even since joining the SEC. Mizzou is 47-53 since joining the SEC and A&M is 52-45. Take out the COVID year and Mizzou is 42-48 and A&M is 44-44. Feel free to check my numbers. Mizzou does have two CCG appearances to A&M's zero. But A&M played in the SEC West which was considered more difficult until the last few years when Georgia brought up the SEC East.

Mizzou
2012 - 2-6
2013 - 7-2
2014 - 7-2
2015 - 1-7
2016 - 2-6
2017 - 4-4
2018 - 4-4
2019 - 3-5
2020 - 5-5 (COVID)
2021 - 3-5
2022 - 3-5
2023 - 6-2

Total 47-53

A&M
2012 - 6-2
2013 - 4-4
2014 - 3-5
2015 - 4-4
2016 - 4-4
2017 - 4-4
2018 - 5-3
2019 - 4-4
2020 - 8-1 (COVID)
2021 - 4-4
2022 - 2-6
2023 - 4-4

TOTAL 52-45
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Maybe he is thinking of bowl games, where A&M has missed being bowl eligible twice since joining the SEC while Mizzou has only missed being bowl eligible five times in the same timeframe. :headscratch:
 
fordman84 said:
eye test doesn't work if you beat up on the bad teams and get smoked against the only good team you played.
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Good luck ranking OSU, Miami, Texas, Iowa St., Indiana, Kansas St. Pittsburgh, Ole Miss, SMU, Army, Wazzu, Colorado, Illinois, and Mizzou :pray:
 
Mizzou won 2 East Championships and has finished in the Top 10 twice since joining the SEC. One win away from a National Title game in 2013. A&M has mainly just been solid. Don't get me wrong.....A&M hasn't been bad. The West has been deeper maybe....but not always way better than the East, at least when Mizzou had their better runs.

Final 2013 Poll
Auburn #2, South Carolina #4, Mizzou #5, Bama #7, LSU #14, A&M #18, Vanderbilt #24 Georgia fell out after losing bowl game.

Final 2014 Poll
Bama #4, Georgia #9, Miss St #11, Mizzou #14, Ole Miss #17, Auburn #22 A West lean for sure that season, but nobody was great that year. LSU fell out after losing bowl game

Final 2023 Poll
Georgia #4, Bama #5, Mizzou #8, Ole Miss #9, LSU #12, Tennessee #17


A&M had a really nice run in 2012 with Manzel. Here are their best 3 years

Final 2012 Poll
Bama #1, Georgia #5, A&M #6, South Carolina #8, Florida #9, LSU #14, Vandy #23

Final 2018 Poll
Bama #2, LSU #6, Georgia #7, Florida #8, Kentucky #12, A&M #16, Miss St and Mizzou both dropped out of final poll after losing bowl games

Final 2020 Poll That of course was the Covid year. Teams finishing with only 6 to 8 games. Mizzou was 5-3 and started running out of players the last 2 games.

#1 Bama, #4 A&M, Georgia #7, Florida #13.


So A&M has finished Top 10 twice as well. I still say Mizzou has been slightly better overall in conference. Mizzou just happened to have a couple of bad seasons with Odom. A&M has been more consistent in that aspect.
 
Mutiger said:
Mizzou won 2 East Championships and has finished in the Top 10 twice since joining the SEC. One win away from a National Title game in 2013. A&M has mainly just been solid. Don't get me wrong.....A&M hasn't been bad. The West has been deeper maybe....but not always way better than the East, at least when Mizzou had their better runs.

Final 2013 Poll
Auburn #2, South Carolina #4, Mizzou #5, Bama #7, LSU #14, A&M #18, Vanderbilt #24 Georgia fell out after losing bowl game.

Final 2014 Poll
Bama #4, Georgia #9, Miss St #11, Mizzou #14, Ole Miss #17, Auburn #22 A West lean for sure that season, but nobody was great that year. LSU fell out after losing bowl game

Final 2023 Poll
Georgia #4, Bama #5, Mizzou #8, Ole Miss #9, LSU #12, Tennessee #17


A&M had a really nice run in 2012 with Manzel. Here are their best 3 years

Final 2012 Poll
Bama #1, Georgia #5, A&M #6, South Carolina #8, Florida #9, LSU #14, Vandy #23

Final 2018 Poll
Bama #2, LSU #6, Georgia #7, Florida #8, Kentucky #12, A&M #16, Miss St and Mizzou both dropped out of final poll after losing bowl games

Final 2020 Poll That of course was the Covid year. Teams finishing with only 6 to 8 games. Mizzou was 5-3 and started running out of players the last 2 games.

#1 Bama, #4 A&M, Georgia #7, Florida #13.


So A&M has finished Top 10 twice as well. I still say Mizzou has been slightly better overall in conference. Mizzou just happened to have a couple of bad seasons with Odom. A&M has been more consistent in that aspect.
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You are tryin to hard to make a point that isn't there.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Much like in the bigxii, Missouri will never win a ccg.
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It would be funny for me to agree, but I can't see the future so maybe they do win it. But based on the results since 2012, I don't see how anyone can say "Mizzou has been better than A&M since the move to the SEC".

I know some here will say this is a battle of the tallest midget, but he's the one that made the comment.
 
Mutiger said:
Mizzou won 2 East Championships and has finished in the Top 10 twice since joining the SEC. One win away from a National Title game in 2013. A&M has mainly just been solid. Don't get me wrong.....A&M hasn't been bad. The West has been deeper maybe....but not always way better than the East, at least when Mizzou had their better runs.

Final 2013 Poll
Auburn #2, South Carolina #4, Mizzou #5, Bama #7, LSU #14, A&M #18, Vanderbilt #24 Georgia fell out after losing bowl game.

Final 2014 Poll
Bama #4, Georgia #9, Miss St #11, Mizzou #14, Ole Miss #17, Auburn #22 A West lean for sure that season, but nobody was great that year. LSU fell out after losing bowl game

Final 2023 Poll
Georgia #4, Bama #5, Mizzou #8, Ole Miss #9, LSU #12, Tennessee #17


A&M had a really nice run in 2012 with Manzel. Here are their best 3 years

Final 2012 Poll
Bama #1, Georgia #5, A&M #6, South Carolina #8, Florida #9, LSU #14, Vandy #23

Final 2018 Poll
Bama #2, LSU #6, Georgia #7, Florida #8, Kentucky #12, A&M #16, Miss St and Mizzou both dropped out of final poll after losing bowl games

Final 2020 Poll That of course was the Covid year. Teams finishing with only 6 to 8 games. Mizzou was 5-3 and started running out of players the last 2 games.

#1 Bama, #4 A&M, Georgia #7, Florida #13.


So A&M has finished Top 10 twice as well. I still say Mizzou has been slightly better overall in conference. Mizzou just happened to have a couple of bad seasons with Odom. A&M has been more consistent in that aspect.
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