Average guy vs 95mph

His bottom half is all messed up

The most interesting thing for me is when he went to the analytics clinic. The coach there literally told him to swing as hard as he could without worrying about trying to hit the ball.

If we're ever wondering why baseball has become an all or nothing sport, that's juicy evidence right there.
 
The most interesting thing for me is when he went to the analytics clinic. The coach there literally told him to swing as hard as he could without worrying about trying to hit the ball.

If we're ever wondering why baseball has become an all or nothing sport, that's juicy evidence right there.

The thing is, though, that is the correct way to teach a kid to hit. Teach him how to make the correct swing. Actually hitting the ball comes with practice. Your mind makes the adjustments when you have success.

It like in Bagger Vance. "Everybody has a perfect swing in them."
 
The thing is, though, that is the correct way to teach a kid to hit. Teach him how to make the correct swing. Actually hitting the ball comes with practice. Your mind makes the adjustments when you have success.

It like in Bagger Vance. "Everybody has a perfect swing in them."

Yeah, i can see the merit. Same thing with any sport, you teach mechanics first and worry about results later. It just stood out to me since we are in an age where people are complaining about analytics killing the game. Every hitter is either dropping bombs or striking out.
 
The thing is, though, that is the correct way to teach a kid to hit. Teach him how to make the correct swing. Actually hitting the ball comes with practice. Your mind makes the adjustments when you have success.

It like in Bagger Vance. "Everybody has a perfect swing in them."
Well, that's a damn lie.

Haven't found it yet.
 
Yeah, i can see the merit. Same thing with any sport, you teach mechanics first and worry about results later. It just stood out to me since we are in an age where people are complaining about analytics killing the game. Every hitter is either dropping bombs or striking out.

I get your point about that. But MLB guys talk about changes to make their launch angle different rather than making solid contact. I think that is what's causing the all or nothing numbers. Level swings cause the bat to be in the contact zone for a longer time. The slight uppercut that is being sought now decreases that time. I am a small ball disciple. Get on base, advance the runner type.
 
I went to one of those indoor "hit golf balls into a screen" thingies about a month ago. They had a speed pitch setting, too and I hit 65.

Not bad seeing as I hadn't thrown a baseball in about 15 years. I was happy with it.

I was also about 10 beers in.
lol, and how bad did your shoulder hurt the next day? No warmup and not in hard throwing shape...probably a bit sore.
 
The most interesting thing for me is when he went to the analytics clinic. The coach there literally told him to swing as hard as he could without worrying about trying to hit the ball.

If we're ever wondering why baseball has become an all or nothing sport, that's juicy evidence right there.
Yup. It's all "ultimate outcome" coaching now. Not me. I teach all my kids to swing for contact and we win a lot of games that way. I'm good with station to station ball. At this age there aren't many teams out there that can make good catch + throw more than 70% of the time.
 
I get your point about that. But MLB guys talk about changes to make their launch angle different rather than making solid contact. I think that is what's causing the all or nothing numbers. Level swings cause the bat to be in the contact zone for a longer time. The slight uppercut that is being sought now decreases that time. I am a small ball disciple. Get on base, advance the runner type.
It's kids that have grown up on Hit Trax. My son does it, and I hate it. All he cares about is EV and LA. When his EV is >65 and LA >25 he hits a HR. That's all he cares about. And he hits bombs, but then every kid on the team tries to do that and we end up with a ton of K's. So I tell em to level it out and get behind the ball, not try to uppercut everything.
 
I had tickets right next to the bullpen at D*dger Stadium once. It’s amazing how hard they’re throwing and the sound the ball makes when the catcher catches it, even during warmups.
My seats at Petco were right by the Padres 'pen. I got to talk to all those guys as they left the pen.

RIP Darrel Akerfelds :rip:
 
I played HS baseball and I think the hardest any kid pitched was about 85 MPH. Even that was hard to turn on.

I'd fall out of my shoes trying to hit 95.
My freshman year I went up against a dude who got drafted. Low to mid 90’s fastball.

I was 14.

Grounded out to first and jogged back to the dugout with a whole lot of swag.
 
I went to one of those indoor "hit golf balls into a screen" thingies about a month ago. They had a speed pitch setting, too and I hit 65.

Not bad seeing as I hadn't thrown a baseball in about 15 years. I was happy with it.

I was also about 10 beers in.
I shot a 26 the last time I got hammered and played putt-putt in the rain.
 
I get your point about that. But MLB guys talk about changes to make their launch angle different rather than making solid contact. I think that is what's causing the all or nothing numbers. Level swings cause the bat to be in the contact zone for a longer time. The slight uppercut that is being sought now decreases that time. I am a small ball disciple. Get on base, advance the runner type.

I've always been of the mind that a good team needs to have elements of everything in their lineup. You need speed guys to put pressure on the defense if they get on. You need avg and walk guys to consistently get on base. And you need power guys that can deliver the devastating 3-run bomb. If you're loaded up with nothing but power guys, you're gonna get a lot of solo jacks and very few wins IMO.

It's kids that have grown up on Hit Trax. My son does it, and I hate it. All he cares about is EV and LA. When his EV is >65 and LA >25 he hits a HR. That's all he cares about. And he hits bombs, but then every kid on the team tries to do that and we end up with a ton of K's. So I tell em to level it out and get behind the ball, not try to uppercut everything.

I'd imagine pitching is the same way now. Get kids in there worrying about spin rate when they need to be worrying about location.
 
I've always been of the mind that a good team needs to have elements of everything in their lineup. You need speed guys to put pressure on the defense if they get on. You need avg and walk guys to consistently get on base. And you need power guys that can deliver the devastating 3-run bomb. If you're loaded up with nothing but power guys, you're gonna get a lot of solo jacks and very few wins IMO.



I'd imagine pitching is the same way now. Get kids in there worrying about spin rate when they need to be worrying about location.
Oh yeah I don't even let the kids use any of those tracker balls to see spin rate. We are still too young to get to any breaking pitches and I'm just trying to get the ball rolling out of their fingers. At 10u it's a struggle just to stop leading with the pinkie. But pitching is all about getting them to throw as hard as they can and then dialing in the accuracy. Too many want to get up and aim, and that's how you end up throwing instead of pitching. :)
 
Oh yeah I don't even let the kids use any of those tracker balls to see spin rate. We are still too young to get to any breaking pitches and I'm just trying to get the ball rolling out of their fingers. At 10u it's a struggle just to stop leading with the pinkie. But pitching is all about getting them to throw as hard as they can and then dialing in the accuracy. Too many want to get up and aim, and that's how you end up throwing instead of pitching. :)

Coaching 10u? Shoot any parents yet?
 
Oh yeah I don't even let the kids use any of those tracker balls to see spin rate. We are still too young to get to any breaking pitches and I'm just trying to get the ball rolling out of their fingers. At 10u it's a struggle just to stop leading with the pinkie. But pitching is all about getting them to throw as hard as they can and then dialing in the accuracy. Too many want to get up and aim, and that's how you end up throwing instead of pitching. :)

Makes me insane. Kids at that age need to be focused on the fundamentals. Basically just staying athletic and well balanced will take you miles as a youngster.

Once you've learned the basics, then sure you can start adding/focusing on speed and power in high school.

Guess I've become the old man bitching about how better things used to be.
 
Coaching 10u? Shoot any parents yet?
Nope. During tryouts I have my assistants grade the kids and I watch/listen to the parents. Any of the overbearing ones just simply don't make the team. I've had at least 4 kids who seemed like good kids and were graded highly that I didn't offer just because I don't want their toxic parents. I had one my first year, and never again. That BS can ruin the kid, ruin the team, and drive good parents away.
 
Makes me insane. Kids at that age need to be focused on the fundamentals. Basically just staying athletic and well balanced will take you miles as a youngster.

Once you've learned the basics, then sure you can start adding/focusing on speed and power in high school.

Guess I've become the old man bitching about how better things used to be.
Every season at the coaches meetings they have a local guy here who has all the fancy computer gear to analyze swing motion (think of the Sports Science show type stuff) come up and speak. And every year he talks individually with each coach after the meeting to get them to bring their kids up. Every year I tell him "Hey bud, when my kids have hair under their arms I'll worry about their swing mechanics but for now I just want them to stay back and push the bat". At this point he is expecting it and it goes easy, but when he was trying to get me to bring my kids at 8u up there I just shook my head.
 
Nope. During tryouts I have my assistants grade the kids and I watch/listen to the parents. Any of the overbearing ones just simply don't make the team. I've had at least 4 kids who seemed like good kids and were graded highly that I didn't offer just because I don't want their toxic parents. I had one my first year, and never again. That BS can ruin the kid, ruin the team, and drive good parents away.

I hear ya. I coached youngins when my son was small. I wish I had thought of that strategy.
 
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