Bama Just Lost Their Season

*Looks at Bama's weak ass cupcake schedule*

They'll be aight
 
Red_Alert said:
I've always looked at it as late season losses should weigh heavier than early season losses.

A team can be better or worse later in the season than earlier for a number of reasons.

Losing late should have eliminated Nebraska from the NC game in 2001.
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I don't understand that ... UM v. tOSU is always late. The Iron Bowl is the last game of the year for Auburn and Alabama. Why would a loss in those types of games matter more than tOSU losing to Oregon in week 1?
 
Red_Alert said:
They've always defended the bowls by saying "Well the regular season is a playoff", but when the chips are down they never treat it as such in the BCS or the CFP.

Late season losses (i.e. '01 Nebraska) should eliminate a team from contention. That Nebraska loss wasn't even a CCG.

CCG's should be a no brainer for elimination from the current CFP format.
1) Don't play in it and you're out of the 4 team contention.
2) Lose it and you're out of the 4 team contention.

Do-overs are for pussies.
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It's actually specifically stated in the rules that it is NOT a reason for elimination. In fact, CCs are even considered in the first level of evaluation. CCs only come into play when two teams are otherwise deemed equal.

In a 4 team format where you want the best 4 teams - that is the stated mission of the committee - not the 4 best conference champs, then whether a team is a CC or not doesn't matter. We've seen the non-SEC champ win at least 2 NCs.

By the way, under your rules, UGA would have won in 2017 - Bama would not have made the playoffs - and we would not have made the playoffs last year. Imagine UM - the conference champs - getting in, but not UGA who thrashed UM in the semis. Or Bama not getting in but Clemson who plays in the AC getting in, when Bama thrashed Clemson 24-6. Is that what you really want? To not have the best teams playing for the championship? Because that seems weird to me.

Fortunately, it won't matter. With a 12-team CFP, my guess is that there will be a certain number of CCs auto qualify. I am actually for that even if Sankey is going to drive a hard bargain on that.
 
I really hope Texas beats Alabama and they fall apart.

However, I don't see that happening.
 
Red_Alert said:
That's why he's the GOAT tho. He puts the pieces together, gets guys lined up right, and pays attention to detail. He doesn't tolerate sloppy.

He turned Bama around in one season.

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Discovered teh way to pay players in 2008 it looks like.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I don't understand that ... UM v. tOSU is always late. The Iron Bowl is the last game of the year for Auburn and Alabama. Why would a loss in those types of games matter more than tOSU losing to Oregon in week 1?
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Because a team could/should be better later in the season than week 1.
A team could have injuries that could have contributed to their loss at some point.

No need to get defensive.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I really hope Texas beats Alabama and they fall apart.

However, I don't see that happening.
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Not me. I want Bama to win every game except A&M. I want that for all of our opponents :suds:
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
It's actually specifically stated in the rules that it is NOT a reason for elimination. In fact, CCs are even considered in the first level of evaluation. CCs only come into play when two teams are otherwise deemed equal.

In a 4 team format where you want the best 4 teams - that is the stated mission of the committee - not the 4 best conference champs, then whether a team is a CC or not doesn't matter. We've seen the non-SEC champ win at least 2 NCs.

By the way, under your rules, UGA would have won in 2017 - Bama would not have made the playoffs - and we would not have made the playoffs last year. Imagine UM - the conference champs - getting in, but not UGA who thrashed UM in the semis. Or Bama not getting in but Clemson who plays in the AC getting in, when Bama thrashed Clemson 24-6. Is that what you really want? To not have the best teams playing for the championship? Because that seems weird to me.

Fortunately, it won't matter. With a 12-team CFP, my guess is that there will be a certain number of CCs auto qualify. I am actually for that even if Sankey is going to drive a hard bargain on that.
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So why play the rest of the regular season?

Just pick two teams from each conference that voters believe will be the best, let them play a CCG, evaluate what you saw (eye test), and pick 4 teams for the CFP.

No need to get defensive.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I really hope Texas beats Alabama and they fall apart.

However, I don't see that happening.
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damn right you won't see my Horns fall apart after beating Bama
 
Thiefery said:
damn right you won't see my Horns fall apart after beating Bama
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Well that could happen too but I was more referring to Alabama falling apart.

It isn't going to happen but I can dream.
 
Red_Alert said:
So why play the rest of the regular season?

Just pick two teams from each conference that voters believe will be the best, let them play a CCG, evaluate what you saw (eye test), and pick 4 teams for the CFP.

No need to get defensive.
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I am not getting defensive. I am stating a position that is different from yours. You've responded. That's how it works.

You play the entire season to determine who the best teams are to get into a playoff. Just like every other sport in the world. With regard to the "pick two teams" comment, that's exactly what the season does ... determines the best two teams in the conferences and they play to win their conference. But, because conferences aren't all equal, you shouldn't rely on them to filter out teams, IMO.

In direct response to the point you highlighted, this was heavily debated when they went to 4. Some wanted to have the top 4 conference champs. The SEC and the B1G said no as there would often be years when 2 of the best 4 teams could be in the same conference. They decided to have a committee that would determine which were the 4 best teams irrespective of conference, whether or not they were conference champions. This means that a weak conference champion can't get in.

This obviously spilled over into the 12 team CFP with the auto-qualifier debate. I happen to think that AQs are good, even if the SEC may eventually be against them. I like the idea that all the P5 teams have the ability to get into the CFP by winning their conference. The 12 team format leaves enough room for at-larges for second and third best teams in a conference.

Again, I am not being defensive ... just stating my thoughts and beliefs.
 
Red_Alert said:
Because a team could/should be better later in the season than week 1.
A team could have injuries that could have contributed to their loss at some point.

No need to get defensive.
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I agree that a team should be better later in the season, but in what sport do we limit entry into the playoffs based on being better later than earlier? There aren't any. A loss is a loss no matter when it happens.

FWIW, team injuries are something the committee can look at. If a team had a couple of high-end players, like the QB, get injured in the CCG, they could take that into consideration. tOSU winning the first CFP with their 3rd string QB kind of neutered that line of thought.

Again, not defensive, just disagree with your take.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I am not getting defensive. I am stating a position that is different from yours. You've responded. That's how it works.

You play the entire season to determine who the best teams are to get into a playoff. Just like every other sport in the world. With regard to the "pick two teams" comment, that's exactly what the season does ... determines the best two teams in the conferences and they play to win their conference. But, because conferences aren't all equal, you shouldn't rely on them to filter out teams, IMO.

In direct response to the point you highlighted, this was heavily debated when they went to 4. Some wanted to have the top 4 conference champs. The SEC and the B1G said no as there would often be years when 2 of the best 4 teams could be in the same conference. They decided to have a committee that would determine which were the 4 best teams irrespective of conference, whether or not they were conference champions. This means that a weak conference champion can't get in.

This obviously spilled over into the 12 team CFP with the auto-qualifier debate. I happen to think that AQs are good, even if the SEC may eventually be against them. I like the idea that all the P5 teams have the ability to get into the CFP by winning their conference. The 12 team format leaves enough room for at-larges for second and third best teams in a conference.

Again, I am not being defensive ... just stating my thoughts and beliefs.
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What about when teams get upset? They might be the best team but they lost in an upset.

Sports was always about entertainment. It is a fun activity. It just happens to be at a higher level with College/Pro with fans, etc. However, to say the best team always wins is not correct in a lot of sports. However, we wouldn't want it any other way.
 
When the Antichrist is your HC and you get more 4/5 stars than everyone else, you no longer have any leeway or legitimate excuses for losing or underperforming.

Can’t whine about things not going your way when you’re the darling of CFB.


“Bama doesn’t rebuild, Bama just reloads.”
 
Volbound1700 said:
I really hope Texas beats Alabama and they fall apart.

However, I don't see that happening.
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I really want to see Tennessee lose 15 straight to Alaba.....oh wait a minute :heh:
 
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