Basketball Article But NIL Issue

[Wild Turkey]

Miami’s Isaiah Wong Threatens To Transfer If NIL Isn’t Increased

If he does not receive an increase in compensation from his name, image, likeness deal, University of Miami hooper Isaiah Wong plans to enter the NCAA transfer portal.Wong’s agent,

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If he does not receive an increase in compensation from his name, image, likeness deal, University of Miami hooper Isaiah Wong plans to enter the NCAA transfer portal.

Wong’s agent, Adam Papas, confirmed the player’s plans to ESPN on Thursday. “If Isaiah and his family don’t feel that the NIL number meets their expectations, they will be entering the transfer portal (Friday), while maintaining his eligibility in the NBA draft and going through the draft process,” Papas said.

This is going to kill college sports if it isn't reined in. Free agency, with no salary cap and no contractual obligations, is an absolutely idiotic formula for college sports.

 

[TaikoTiger]

As Papas loosely suggests, the underlying cause of Wong’s unhappiness appears to be the NIL deal of teammate Nijel Pack. Pack, a Kansas State transfer, reportedly received a two-year, $800,000 deal from Ruiz that also includes a car.

“It’s a unique situation just completing Nijel Pack’s deal with Miami. Understanding what John Ruiz is trying to do with the NIL space and the city of Miami, we feel the value of Isaiah Wong should meet or exceed the value of an incoming transfer,” added Papas.

This should get good

 

[Thiefery]

actually this is needed.. it will begin to give pause to certain boosters who feel disrespected when a player does this. They will be more careful of who they are trying to compensate for a commitment.

 

[Goldbug]

actually this is needed.. it will begin to give pause to certain boosters who feel disrespected when a player does this. They will be more careful of who they are trying to compensate for a commitment.

And if every player in the NFL was an unrestricted free agent?

 

[Thiefery]

And if every player in the NFL was an unrestricted free agent?

then maybe my steelers would be really good again

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Wong should meet or exceed the value of an incoming transfer

I tried explaining this to the Tennessee faithful on here after they announced publicly they gave 8 million to one guy. They seem to think the guy is going to bring players along with him and they won't have their hands out.

 

[Wild Turkey]

I tried explaining this to the Tennessee faithful on here after they announced publicly they gave 8 million to one guy. They seem to think the guy is going to bring players along with him and they won't have their hands out.

I'll go one further than that. Once that kid gets on campus you don't think his linemen aren't going to know how much he got and expect some "love"?

We are setting up a system where linemen are going to want to get paid to block and QBs wanting cash from receivers to throw them the ball. On the flip side how long until pay-for-play schemes come to light and guys start getting dirty on defense trying to cash in.

This thing is going to be a disaster.

 

[Deep Creek]

I'll go one further than that. Once that kid gets on campus you don't think his linemen aren't going to know how much he got and expect some "love"?

We are setting up a system where linemen are going to want to get paid to block and QBs wanting cash from receivers to throw them the ball. On the flip side how long until pay-for-play schemes come to light and guys start getting dirty on defense trying to cash in.

This thing is going to be a disaster.

But it would bound to happen when the money generated skyrocketed. It became an arms race.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

So, what's the answer?

NIL as it was intended could be good, but it would only generate small amounts for most athletes. We also knew this type of thing was going to happen, the only surprise is how stupid these people are to put this out in public.

If we go to paying players, they still have Alston anti-trust issues in that it will have to be the conferences, not the NCAA that decide what the pay would be. Then they can regulate NIL. This would mean collective bargaining and some type of wage scale. That has it's whole set of problems.

Then there are Title IX issues if you go that route.

Then the SEC and the B1G are going to pay a lot more because they can.

This is going to get unreal fast, and I've not seen anyone put out a single decent aleternative.

 

[jjc2009]

Looks like this kid’s “agent” is running the agent’s playbook for pro athletes. I’d be pretty pissed as a coach if a player started this shit. Pack your shit and go.

 

[Wild Turkey]

So, what's the answer?

NIL as it was intended could be good, but it would only generate small amounts for most athletes. We also knew this type of thing was going to happen, the only surprise is how stupid these people are to put this out in public.

If we go to paying players, they still have Alston anti-trust issues in that it will have to be the conferences, not the NCAA that decide what the pay would be. Then they can regulate NIL. This would mean collective bargaining and some type of wage scale. That has it's whole set of problems.

Then there are Title IX issues if you go that route.

Then the SEC and the B1G are going to pay a lot more because they can.

This is going to get unreal fast, and I've not seen anyone put out a single decent aleternative.

I think you start by making these kids sign a contract if they take the money so they are locked in.

We also have to fix the portal by having two short windows a season.

Those are the first two steps.

 

[Thiefery]

I think you start by making these kids sign a contract if they take the money so they are locked in.

We also have to fix the portal by having two short windows a season.

Those are the first two steps.

lol why make the players lock into a contract when coaches can still leave freely? they signed a contract too, yet we had a dozen change jobs

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I think you start by making these kids sign a contract if they take the money so they are locked in.

We also have to fix the portal by having two short windows a season.

Those are the first two steps.

Second part, yes. First part, no. Legally would open a can of worms.

 

[duckboy33]

Second part, yes. First part, no. Legally would open a can of worms.

Agreed. They can't really put that in a contract since the athletes are not employees of the universities and the universities have been very adamant on making that clear. However, they're going to clean up the transfer portal stuff.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Agreed. They can't really put that in a contract since the athletes are not employees of the universities and the universities have been very adamant on making that clear. However, they're going to clean up the transfer portal stuff.

If you think it through, the NIL is bad for two things:
- People threating to transfer if they don't get paid - see Pitt WR
- NIL blatantly being used to induce a recruit to come to your school - see ATM, UTjr and USC.

NIL as intended, and even NIL through collectives where the athlete simply knows that if they come to school X there will be ample opportunities, kind of takes care of the second one. It's still pay for play, just legal and more subtle.

Cleaning up the transfer portal to make it more orderly will happen, but it won't affect someone who didn't get NIL as they came in wanting it on the back end.

Smarter people than me will have to figure out how to get the Genie back in the bottle on all that.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Second part, yes. First part, no. Legally would open a can of worms.

The hell is would. Every pro athlete under the son is under contract. No reason we can’t put these kids under one and put a salary cap on teams. That’s what NIL really is anyway.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

The hell is would. Every pro athlete under the son is under contract. No reason we can’t put these kids under one and put a salary cap on teams. That’s what NIL really is anyway.

SMH. If a genus like you can figure this out so easily, why aren’t they doing it? There is a reason the schools are letting 3rd parties do all the heavy lifting here. Think about it and it’ll come to you.

 

[Wild Turkey]

SMH. If a genus like you can figure this out so easily, why aren’t they doing it? There is a reason the schools are letting 3rd parties do all the heavy lifting here. Think about it and it’ll come to you.

It’s because the rules are fucked up so change the rules.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

It’s because the rules are fucked up so change the rules.

LOL, if it were easy, it would have been done. Without looking, tell me everything you know about the Alston SCOTUS case. That’s what I thought. That’s where you start, and there’s tons more after that. It ain’t simple.

 

[Wild Turkey]

LOL, if it were easy, it would have been done. Without looking, tell me everything you know about the Alston SCOTUS case. That’s what I thought. That’s where you start, and there’s tons more after that. It ain’t simple.

Really because what I’ve seen is no one doing anything and pretending the issue doesn’t exist.

The SCOTUS case doesn’t say teams can’t put kids under contract and pay them. It’s what the pros do.

Once they are under contract them advertisers can do what they want but they aren’t going to over pay.

just let teams pay players, put them under contract and put a cap in place. It is that simple.