Before Jerry Sandusky, Penn State football had another serial sexual predator, Todd Hodne

He never brought him back. He was suspended for the felony (breaking into a record store), and that is when he was raping. He never made it back to the team.
JoPa said he would be back if he stayed on the right path and got good grades. The door to bring him back was wide open until the really bad stuff started.
 
JoPa said he would be back if he stayed on the right path and got good grades. The door to bring him back was wide open until the really bad stuff started.
You lost me ... yes, he had a path back from breaking and entering, hence being suspended not kicked off ... that happens all the time in CFB. You made it seem like Joe Pa was protecting him and would have him back from rape. That didn't happen.
 
You lost me ... yes, he had a path back from breaking and entering, hence being suspended not kicked off ... that happens all the time in CFB. You made it seem like Joe Pa was protecting him and would have him back from rape. That didn't happen.
I didn't make it seem like anything. I made a statement and you took exception to it based on an incorrect assumption on your part. My proof:
in the meantime the Cliffs notes version:
PSU recruited a bad kid, kept a bad kid, covered for a bad kid, JoePa knew and kept him around because he hit hard.

That's not accurate. He didn't keep the bad kid,
He did keep the bad kid. He didn't kick him off the team, just suspended him. He was willing to bring him back if he kept clean and did good in school. It's what I initially said, it's what I still say. If you took my statement to mean anything about rape then that is your shortcoming, not mine.

Even cliffier version:
JoPa could have told the felon to get off the team and didn't.
 
I didn't make it seem like anything. I made a statement and you took exception to it based on an incorrect assumption on your part. My proof:



He did keep the bad kid. He didn't kick him off the team, just suspended him. He was willing to bring him back if he kept clean and did good in school. It's what I initially said, it's what I still say. If you took my statement to mean anything about rape then that is your shortcoming, not mine.

Even cliffier version:
JoPa could have told the felon to get off the team and didn't.
LOL, the article was about a player who raped 9 women and murdered a taxi cab driver. Oh, yeah, and he broke into a record store to steal some albums before all that. Joe Pa only knew about the breaking into the record store and suspended him for that.

Your Cliffs state that he kept a bad kid, covered up for him, etc. leading anyone rational to think that Joe Pa covered up for a murderer and rapist. As I stated before, that's not remotely true. If you really meant to condemn him for giving the kid a second chance for breaking into a record store, then your Cliffs really sucked.
 
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LOL, the article was about a player who raped 9 women and murdered a taxi cab driver. Oh, yeah, and he broke into a record store to steal some albums before all that. Joe Pa only knew about the breaking into the record store and suspended him for that.

Your Cliffs state that he kept a bad kid, covered up for him, etc. leading anyone rational to think that Joe Pa covered up for a murderer and rapist. As I stated before, that's not remotely true. If you really meant to condemn him for giving the kid a second chance for breaking into a record store, then your Cliffs really sucked.
ahh who doesn't rape a woman at least once.. #BoysWillBeBoys
 
Joe was probably pre-occupied helping Jerry set up the second mile in 1977
 
Joe was probably pre-occupied helping Jerry set up the second mile in 1977
The article ended with a paragraph about how they sent a request for comment to Sandusky in the slammer. As he was getting railed, we hope, he replied that he didn't remember the guy but he must have been a bad dude and that he likely couldn't have done anything for him .... LOL ... pretty sure he couldn't have diddled that one.
 
You guys give me shit for typing too much - I get it, you simpletons - but that was one long, well researched article. And very, very well written. Never heard any of that.

For those of you who can't read anything longer than 240 characters, here are the Cliffs from memory:
- 1977 PSU freshman from Long Island comes to PSU
- Gets into some trouble and is suspended for his second year
- Rapes at least 3-4 women on and around campus.
- Is arrested, tried and convicted, and the dumb fuck judge lets him go home while on appeal, something no one had ever heard of.
- While at home he rapes 4 more women, is arrested and convicted and sentenced to a total of 21 years.
- Gets out on parole after 7 years even though everyone said dude should not get out.
- Within a year he is a drug addict and murders a taxi driver.
- Convicted and dies in jail around 2020-ish.
- Ruined a bunch of lives ... a bunch.

It doesn't paint Joe Pa in too bad a light, but does point out how sexual assault/rape was treated differently back in the day. Joe Pa got a little too involved, but for the most part did what he should have done. The local police did a terrible job, and the criminal justice system screwed up time and again. Someone should have throat punched the judge, and I hope he lived a terrible life after that decision.
despite your other opinions about Joe, I just wanted to say thank you for actually reading the story unlike 90+% people who ever talk about Penn State.

As for my take, clearly another example of the shit tier police force known as State College PD, were shit when I was there and is still shit now.
 
The fuck you talking about?
Forgive him he's retarded.
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Someone should have throat punched the judge, and I hope he lived a terrible life after that decision.
JoPa gave the judge a handjob. Buncha fucking creeps over there in PA.
 
JoPa gave the judge a handjob. Buncha fucking creeps over there in PA.
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1 in 562 in Ohio vs. 1 in 623 in Pennsylvania
Prison Sentences for Incest in Ohio is 2-6 years compared to 10 years in Pennsylvania
Incest is actually legal in Ohio for in some situations
Oh yeah uh....
In case if you still try to act as if doesn't exist.
 
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1 in 562 in Ohio vs. 1 in 623 in Pennsylvania
Prison Sentences for Incest in Ohio is 2-6 years compared to 10 years in Pennsylvania
Incest is actually legal in Ohio for in some situations
Oh yeah uh....
In case if you still try to act as if doesn't exist.
Stop trying to touch my dick, you fucking creep.
 
LOL, the article was about a player who raped 9 women and murdered a taxi cab driver. Oh, yeah, and he broke into a record store to steal some albums before all that. Joe Pa only knew about the breaking into the record store and suspended him for that.

Your Cliffs state that he kept a bad kid, covered up for him, etc. leading anyone rational to think that Joe Pa covered up for a murderer and rapist. As I stated before, that's not remotely true. If you really meant to condemn him for giving the kid a second chance for breaking into a record store, then your Cliffs really sucked.
He kept a felon. What I said, what I meant. You made a poor assumption, that's ok.
 
despite your other opinions about Joe, I just wanted to say thank you for actually reading the story unlike 90+% people who ever talk about Penn State.

As for my take, clearly another example of the shit tier police force known as State College PD, were shit when I was there and is still shit now.
I always liked PSU growing up in the 60s and 70s, and then made a bunch of great friends from PSU in the last 70s, early 80s. Going to a "white out" is still on my bucket list. Would love for it to be a UGA game.
 
He kept a felon. What I said, what I meant. You made a poor assumption, that's ok.
Logic and comprehension not part of the ATM cult, I see. Ok, you win. LOL.
 
I always liked PSU growing up in the 60s and 70s, and then made a bunch of great friends from PSU in the last 70s, early 80s. Going to a "white out" is still on my bucket list. Would love for it to be a UGA game.
Believe me if UGA ever comes up it, you'll for sure be the Whiteout. We love the SEC teams coming up and Bama/Auburn have been a blast.
 
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