Can we stop pretending that James Franklin is anything but an average coach now?
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I will give him kudos for what he did at Vandy. You can't take that away.
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Franklin is 10-9 the last two seasons
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He is a good recruiter but he can't seem to build from there
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Wait, when did we start pretending he was a decent coach?
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Matt Campbell says hi as well.
He got to play an easier schedule in the SEC. Now he has to face a Murderer's Row schedule in the B1G. Gordon Gee said so.
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Meh , this season yea prob so but in your heart of hearts and gut/immediate reaction, if I ask you , do you think he would do a better job at Penn State than Franklin what would ya say? Cause I’d say yes.
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I mean, the SEC East was pretty weak then (still is) and he is in arguably the second toughest now.
Yeah. I was just trying to stir up some of the SEC wonks.
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Maybe, maybe not. But he doesn't turn them into Ohio State.
He's a good coach and has turned around a program that normally hopes for an upset or two just to make a bowl game, but you can argue Franklin did more at Vandy. Both are decent coaches whose upside at high profile schools is 8-4.
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LOL at Penn St for having the same conference record as Illinois
Most CFB coaches are average then so moot point
Don't see much changing with Campbell.
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The level of talent (per recruiting rankings) between Iowa St and Penn St is wide
2021 (True Freshmen)
Penn St: #21
Iowa St: #59
2020
Penn St: #15
Iowa St: #46
2019
Penn St: #12
Iowa St: #46
2018
Penn St: #6
Iowa St: #55
2017 (Redshirt or Super Seniors)
Penn St: #15
Iowa St: #52
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What that tells me is Matt Campbell is similar to Dantonio where he can turn in good seasons but can’t turn that into improved recruiting.
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Well it's Iowa St. for one. They're competing for in-state recruits with Iowa. Much the same that Sparty is competing with Michigan and Ohio St for Michigan in-stater's.
There may also be a level of other coaches telling recruits that Campbell will likely be taking a different job and may not be their coach in their 1, 2, 3, 4, years in Ames.