Does it really matter how many IC games or P5 games you play?

ericd7633 said:
That's just simply not true given the timeline. The SEC announced this decision in September of 2022. It's next to impossible to schedule a home and home for the following season. Teams aren't going to pay money to get out of a contract to sign a home and home. You only do that if you want more home games, like Michigan did with their UCLA game. The best they could have hoped for was a 1 off at the start of the season on a neutral field, but even that's tough given it was already September. Just looking at those contests for 2023, UL vs. GT was scheduled in January of 2021. UVA vs. Tenn was scheduled in May of 2022. UNC vs. South Carolina was scheduled in 2021 and LSU vs. FSU was scheduled in 2018.
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Who said anything about a home & home?
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Who said anything about a home & home?
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I misread your post. But my point still stands. Given the timeline, it's impossible to get a good opponent one year out. Who is backing out of a contract to play a one off at UGA? It doesn't make sense. I doubt any P5 teams even had an opening on their 2023 schedule by the time the OU series was canceled.
 
Red_Alert said:
It does matter whether a conference plays 8 or 9 IC games. It'll matter even more at a 12 game CFP.

The reason is that 1/2 of the total teams in a conference will have a guaranteed extra loss.
That guaranteed extra loss is going to effect Top 25 rankings.

Of course 1/2 the conference is also going to get a guaranteed extra win. However, they'd likely get that extra win against the likes of "Austin Peay", "Tennessee-Martin", "Southern", or "Mercer", anyway.

It's a ranking difference between being (10-2) and (9-3), or a ranking difference between being (9-3) and (8-4).
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You are making an argument not to play 9 games.
 
Red_Alert said:
There's typically been debate between #4, #5, and #6.

That debate will soon shift to #12, #13, #14.

The SEC has typically gotten the benefit of the doubt for a 9 win team in the #12 slot over other 9 or 10 win teams.
Would those SEC schools have those 9 win teams with a 9 game conference schedule?

We know that half of the SEC teams would have a guaranteed extra loss if they did.
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Anyone that gets butt hurt because they didn't get a 12th spot in the playoff is delusional. We typically don't have 4 teams that are worth putting in a playoff so arguing about a 12th spot is idiotic plus we know that more than likely will be a "token" slot for a G5 or used to help out a P5 conference that has pitiful representation.

Anyone on this site that argues for a 12th spot for their team should be shamed mercilessly.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Anyone that gets butt hurt because they didn't get a 12th spot in the playoff is delusional. We typically don't have 4 teams that are worth putting in a playoff so arguing about a 12th spot is idiotic plus we know that more than likely will be a "token" slot for a G5 or used to help out a P5 conference that has pitiful representation.

Anyone on this site that argues for a 12th spot for their team should be shamed mercilessly.
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The coaches with playoff bonuses will try to white knight their teams.
 
Scheduling well out of conference only really matters if you're a non blue blood type team



Same for losing a game


Programs with name recognition and historic relevance basically get 3 things every year that other schools don't

1. A built in recruiting advantage

2. A free loss

3. A pass on OOC scheduling


Those 3 things together equate to why you see the same teams in the playoff every year

When you start off with better talent and simultaneously youre held to lower standards you're pretty much on a free roll
 
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ericd7633 said:
I misread your post. But my point still stands. Given the timeline, it's impossible to get a good opponent one year out. Who is backing out of a contract to play a one off at UGA? It doesn't make sense. I doubt any P5 teams even had an opening on their 2023 schedule by the time the OU series was canceled.
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Who said @UGA? Plenty of teams would cancel to get a home game with uga.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Who said @UGA? Plenty of teams would cancel to get a home game with uga.
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Do you have any proof or precedence of that? I can't recall a time where a P5 school dropped a game and a year later lined up a P5 school for a home or away game. There just wasn't enough time for uga to do anything. They had less than 12 months to get something lined up. The options are really slim.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Oh, so UGA was too afraid to play at OU. That makes more sense.
There are any number of teams that would have bumped their scheduled game for a home game with UGA,
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Use what brain you have. The SEC told us to cancel because of scheduling issues going forward. The two schools tried to come up with a solution, but UGA isn't going to give OU a home game without getting a return game and that can't happen. They talked about (1) neutral game which didn't make sense for OU, and they also talked about an OOC game in 2030 and the SEC put a kibosh on that. So fuck off with UGA is afraid to play OU. We will get them every other year starting in the next two years. I am looking forward to it as OU is one of my favorite historical teams.

Listen to you just spouting nonsense. There were no P5 teams that were willing to bump their game. They would have had to pay such a game off, and then they get nothing for coming to Athens. Seriously, look at our OOC that I posted above - I know it might take you 30 minutes to read the 30 lines, but it would be worth your while and the headache you will get. No one would cancel and play so we went with what we could get.

This is all well documented, but you keep on making shit up.
 
Across The Field said:
If FSU continues to ascend and Clemson can get back to being Clemson, this is going to be a fucking gauntlet. Only thing I can think is by that time Saban will likely retire (right?) and Dabo will end up at Bama, so Clemson may end up going back to being a 7-5/8-4 team, which is still a quality OOC opponent. I also cannot wait for those OSU/UGA games.
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I am with you. Keep in mind that before OU and TX came into the SEC we had home and aways with both of them. So, when a low-intellect poster comes on here about us being scared, I LOL.

Seriously, I know our schedule sucks and I wish we would have gone to OU this year. I was heading out for the game. But that's not how the economics of CFB work.

I love great OOC games and have been to most of the ones we have had since the early 00s. They are more fun than home games in some ways.
 
outofyourmind said:
I would bet that Oklahoma, Texas, Georgia, and Florida have all played fewer home games than anyone else in the nation over the past 80 years.
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This is true, and I am not sure that the WLOCP is going to survive. We are there for another 3 years, but Jax has already told both teams and the Jags that for 25-27, I think, the stadium is closed for renovations. Like we did back in the 90s, UGA and UG will likely do a home and home series for 2 years. I kind of doubt they go back to Jax after that. I've been a dozen or more times, and as much as I loved it what makes it great has passed up this 63 year old dude.
 
rmilia1 said:
1. A built in recruiting advantage

2. A free loss

3. A pass on OOC scheduling

Those 3 things together equate to why you see the same teams in the playoff every year

When you start off with better talent and simultaneously youre held to lower standards you're pretty much on a free roll
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I agree with a lot of what you typed, but if you look at the top 25 teams, I think you will find they are all scheduling way better OOC.
 
Great article on why the SEC is at 8 for now. Cliffs:

1. It's Alabama's fault. Had they agreed to 9, we would have 9. Not my words, it's in the article. Bama gave cover to the other 4 teams taht would have gone along with 9 but for Alabama.

2. News to me ... the SEC is very confident that ESPN will pay for the 9th game, and pay a lot for it.

3. The excuse that we want to see what the CFP is going to do is exactly that ... a BS excuse.

www.saturdaydownsouth.com

First and 10: Inside the SEC’s 8-game vs. 9-game scheduling nightmare … and who’s to blame

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This thread smells like retardation.

UGA should just dominate the Sun Belt and take the guaranteed playoff spot every year.
 
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