ESPN Lowballs The PAC

Wild Turkey said:
The shrink provision is that ESPN can cancel the contract. That’s a no go in the current environment. Anyone leaves and ESPN can call it off.
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Yeah, the PAC would be even dumber than usual to agree to that. But a reduction in what they are paying out would be fair, imo.
 
Kachina said:
I like that actually.

And from a basketball perspective, that is super fucking tasty.
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Yup, and that's the point I was getting at above ... ESPN is looking at that and saying we want all that we can get compared to the 10 team PAC. It's not SEC/B1G, but it's better than the ACC. It would immediately become the 3rd best conference, and provide PST programming. At least MST programming. A conference in all time zones - does the PST get there? You guys have some weird time zone things going on.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
You guys have some weird time zone things going on.
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Not really, it's just our later games locally, are too late for most East Coast viewers.

However, if you can't sleep, then you'll be thanking the PAC for playing game at midnight.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Yeah, the PAC would be even dumber than usual to agree to that. But a reduction in what they are paying out would be fair, imo.
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My guess is that is a standard media agreement. I'm not guaranteeing you anything if part of what I bought leaves. What it Ore and Wash leave? Deal is over. No one would agree otherwise. It's the opposite of a GOR. Sign a GOR and you cant' go anywhere. But if you won't do that, then the risk of the conference breaking up is on you, not me (being ESPN).
 
Kachina said:
Not really, it's just our later games locally, are too late for most East Coast viewers.

However, if you can't sleep, then you'll be thanking the PAC for playing game at midnight.
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Don't you have some odd daylight savings time things so that you are MST sometimes and PST other times?
 
The PAC needs to call up Fox Sports and see what they are offering.....


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Wild Turkey said:
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ESPN Reportedly Makes The PAC-12 A Hilariously Low Offer

ESPN reportedly made an unbelievably low offer to the PAC-12 for a new media deal. How much money did ESPN offer the PAC-12?
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"TV industry sources tell me ESPN and the PAC 12 are near a breaking point as ESPN is at $800 Million over five years. $16 million per school on average. PAC is at $1.5 Billion, $300M per season while also refusing to include a termination clause should the conference shrink."

This is very interesting, especially the part about "should the conference shrink". That indicates to me that the B1G might be in play for more schools and both the PAC and ESPN know it.

16mm a school is horrible as I thought they would be worth at least 25mm a school but without Washington or Oregon that number probably shrinks considerably. Let's hope the B12 gets better terms are we are looking at such a huge divide between the P2 and everyone else that competitiveness will be in the toliet.
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Radio folks in WV (talking WVU future a few months after Texas and OU made their move public) said that they would expect the new revenue post OU/Texas departure to be somewhere between 15-16mm per team “a big haircut” so… that seems in line with what the PAC is being offered FWTW.

Question then becomes is it worth more for the remaining PAC members to sit tight or join the Big12.
 
outofyourmind said:
Seems like ESPN wants the PAC to get it's shit together and make a decision.
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No, it’s ESPN is daring Amazon to get its shit together. ESPN was scared when they started trying to put the Pac 12/ACC relationship but after the Thursday night embarrassment from Amazon they realize the Pac has Mountain West type leverage.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
My guess is that is a standard media agreement. I'm not guaranteeing you anything if part of what I bought leaves. What it Ore and Wash leave? Deal is over. No one would agree otherwise. It's the opposite of a GOR. Sign a GOR and you cant' go anywhere. But if you won't do that, then the risk of the conference breaking up is on you, not me (being ESPN).
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I think you nailed it. Oregon and Washington are balking at the GOR so that is ESPN’s insurance policy and why they are lowballing.

I think the PAC is worth 20 to 25 million a school as I can’t imagine they wouldn’t be.
 
fordman84 said:
Gonna laugh when Pac members have to subscribe to Discovery+ to watch their games.
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Amazon’s offer is great but a decade too late. If NIL was a thing back then, there wouldn’t have been a conference making more money but all the “progressives” on the west are retarded on what draws ratings. Replays of famous Pac 8 football games draw more viewers than non revenue sports.
 
they won't be doing divisions in the new Big12.. that's already been leaked
 
I reread the title, sounds like ESPN teabags the PAC.

combo teabag GIF
 
CoalTrain said:
Radio folks in WV (talking WVU future a few months after Texas and OU made their move public) said that they would expect the new revenue post OU/Texas departure to be somewhere between 15-16mm per team “a big haircut” so… that seems in line with what the PAC is being offered FWTW.

Question then becomes is it worth more for the remaining PAC members to sit tight or join the Big12.
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It's all about inventory of "big" games. With OU, TX and USC gone, that takes away most of the matches that generate that. But, I think they would be better off combining to get as many big matchups as you can. The contra to that is a team like Colorado delivers very little in the way of bog games. Utah will, and I think the AZ schools have the potential. We're not talking 4 million, but 1 million plus games. So, who is the 4th team?
 
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