Exit velocity and launch angle are useless stats

MagicTaco said:
Ok so analytically launch angle is for home runs but why care about exit velocity? If it goes out fast or slow it's still a home run.
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Exit velocity is tracked/used for more than just HRs though. Balls that are hit harder/faster are generally more likely to result in hits.
 
MagicTaco said:
Ok so analytically launch angle is for home runs but why care about exit velocity? If it goes out fast or slow it's still a home run.
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Do you not understand basic physics. I can have a perfect 37 degree launch but if my EV is 12, it's not going far.
 
fordman84 said:
Do you not understand basic physics. I can have a perfect 37 degree launch but if my EV is 12, it's not going far.
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And you can have an EV of 100, but if the LA is 5, it’s gonna be a ground ball, and with shifts, probably right at someone
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
And you can have an EV of 100, but if the LA is 5, it’s gonna be a ground ball, and with shifts, probably right at someone
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Yup. Which is why both of them are important to have together. And using them you can tell how someone is hitting. Are they making good contact but getting unlucky? That's what it used to be called before metrics became possible. If so keep hitting and it will work its way out.
 
fordman84 said:
Do you not understand basic physics. I can have a perfect 37 degree launch but if my EV is 12, it's not going far.
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Who cares on both accounts. Game is more than swing for the fences.
 
MagicTaco said:
Who cares on both accounts. Game is more than swing for the fences.
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Hard hit line drives are built by a combination of exit velocity and launch angle.

There's a difference between understanding that these two things both have optimal sweet spots for the best results and having guys go up with the idea of "I'm trying to hit it back at 105 MPH with an 30 degree LA."

Nobody is doing that in the box. But generally speaking, hitters are trying to drive the ball. You don't normally associate that with weak ground balls or pop ups to short.
 
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Illustrious Potentate said:
And you can have an EV of 100, but if the LA is 5, it’s gonna be a ground ball, and with shifts, probably right at someone
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I was watching the Jays this past weekend and Pat Tabler did the old "without the shift that groundball is an easy out!" thing on an RBI single that bounced through and started decrying the use/value of shifts. Then a couple of innings later there was a scorching line drive out and Pat lamented that it was about the 4th or 5th ball that the Jays had hit really hard but right at someone. As far as I could tell, to Pat these two things didn't seem at all related :noidea:
 
DragonFromTo said:
I was watching the Jays this past weekend and Pat Tabler did the old "without the shift that groundball is an easy out!" thing on an RBI single that bounced through and started decrying the use/value of shifts. Then a couple of innings later there was a scorching line drive out and Pat lamented that it was about the 4th or 5th ball that the Jays had hit really hard but right at someone. As far as I could tell, to Pat these two things didn't seem at all related :noidea:
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I’m guilty of that too, even though I know the shift gets more extra outs than allows extra hits. I’ll cuss the shift everytime a ground ball right at where the shortstop usually plays is a hit, but not acknowledge the flair that the rover in short right field caught with 2 outs and the bases loaded
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I’m guilty of that too, even though I know the shift gets more extra outs than allows extra hits. I’ll cuss the shift everytime a ground ball right at where the shortstop usually plays is a hit, but not acknowledge the flair that the rover in short right field caught with 2 outs and the bases loaded
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Oh sure. But you're a fan and not a paid analyst :wink:
 
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