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Expanded CFP - will it ruin the regular season? from The Athletic
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I don't think the drama is the reason most people watch. It is the relation to teams because they (or someone they know) went to school there, is local, has a history, pageantry, etc. It is only the drama that attracts those of us who are CFB nuts.
Was this a bad thing?
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Right. And part of that is the regular season and traditions. Michigan Ohio state where nothing is on the line is…not the same. “It’s rivalry week and none of these games matter. They’re all in the playoff either way”
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You are living in the past ... bowl games haven't meant anything for decades. I've been watching for over 50 years, and they used to be exciting when I was growing up. Maybe in the 80s. But they started losing their relevancy when the BCS came into being and they no longer were all that important for the NC. It wasn't the 4 teams playoff that ruined bowls, they were irrelevant starting in the late 90s. For me, that's fine. I've gone to a bunch over the years and we have fun. I watch a ton of them because I like CFB. But bowl games haven't been relevant for a long time.
If anything the new 12 teams CFP will bring back the NY6 as they will be part of the CFP, for now.
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This is nuts ... I can't imagine playing tOSU won't still boil your blood, even if you might get into a CFP if you lose. You have to live with those bucknuts for the next 365 days. If we lose to UF or AU, the fact we still might have a CFP slot doesn't help me at all.
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You talkin’ bout me?
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I will still watch all Washington games, and likely most of the the same Pac (or whatever conf they end up in) when there are 12 v 4 playoff spots.
I 100% will watch less Ohio State v Michigan or Georgia v Bama regular season games when both are probably going to playoffs anyway. I don't care how anyone else tries to frame them or their history, there is no way they mean the same until those playoff games.
It doesn't bother me if others still find the same joy in them, but it sure seems like others work hard to tell people in my camp how we are supposed to think/feel/fan. Not saying that's what you did, nor that you have done. Just that's how a lot of these threads end up.
I'm going to fan however I want.
I think we all will. I know I'm "fanning" differently as I get older. (I wish still had @78Cyclones energy to go to games in person.) My game watching now is less about a team's CFP chances and more about competitive hard fought games. What turns me off are televised slaughters. I ain't watching those and I can't believe the media is paying for them and fans are willing to pay to go to those. But that's just me and there are a bunch of people that seem to enjoy those slaughters. Give me close games by teams that play hard...regardless of where they are in the standings.
...and a whole bunch of other crazies on here.
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I like those big time games where the fans live and die on every play. Either the teams rise to the pressure, or spectacularly fail. Seeing the joy or despair adds to the football.
I don't care how it's sold, there can't be as much of that when winning or losing doesn't change things.
It's that way in the NFL. I won't waste time watching many games outside of our own division until they start having that intensity. I just don't follow pro ball as much as college.
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I think that in some respects, evening the playing field is part of the point of both NIL and the transfer portal. They should eventually help.
The NCAA kept expanding March Madness and every time they did, people said "that'll make it too big".
The concern was that smaller programs would just get slaughtered in the early rounds. For a while, that's what happened.
But then those smaller schools started putting scares into the bigger schools, then they actually started beating the bigger schools until eventually, the only upset we hadn't seen was a 16 seed beating a 1 seed...then, a couple of years ago, we saw that happen.
In the meantime, we have seen a program like Gonzaga go from being one of those little known schools throwing scares into big schools to being a bit of a basketball powerhouse. We've also seen small programs like VCU make some deep tourney runs.
It may take a little longer with football because in basketball you can have a team like Davidson get a guy like Steph Curry, or for the older guys, a team like Indiana State can get a Larry Bird and go on a run. But that's where the NIL and transfer portal can help speed the process a bit.
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I watch as many as I can for the express purpose of being sick of college football knowing there's gonna be a 7.5 month hiatus when they're done.
It's also good to see some OOC matchups after 8-9 weeks of just conference play.
As someone who's favorite teams would otherwise have to be perfect to even have a shot it's great.
Which means I can't wait for them to find a way to blow even making a 12-team field.
Which means I can't wait for them to find a way to blow even making a 12-team field.
Really though I do think 12 is still kinda diluted. Preferred 8 if they were gonna do it.
Also this where realignment killing so many traditional rivalries fucking sucks. For instance Missouri can go all the way to a Nasty with one loss (I know, I know) but if that loss were to kansas that would still be a bit of a black eye on things. If the loss was to Arkansas, well who gives a fuck.
Also this where realignment killing so many traditional rivalries fucking sucks. For instance Missouri can go all the way to a Nasty with one loss (I know, I know) but if that loss were to kansas that would still be a bit of a black eye on things. If the loss was to Arkansas, well who gives a fuck.
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8 was my preference as well. But I'm not gonna complain about 12.
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I watch a ton of them, too. It's amazing at how much they actually make. ESPN makes bank on the fact they have about 35 of them and they make about $5 million on each for TV rights. That's close to $150 million. That works. Personally, I enjoy watching about 30% of them.
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From what I have read, they had to go to 12 for two reasons:
1. The SEC was simply not going to agree to go to 8 unless it was best 8. They wanted as many at large teams for selfish reasons. They currently have 4 at large, now way they were going to 8 with auto-qualifiers and only 2 at-larges. That would be going backwards to them.
2. Logistically, an even number wouldn't work. Teams that didn't play for conference champs would get in, which means they would benefit from not play a CCG. With 12, you setup byes which means someone not playing a CCG will never be at an advantage over the winner of CCG.
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That's not the question. The question is -- will it piss me off as much as 2016, when EVERYTHING was on the line, and we lost by a bad spot on 4th down? No, it won't. It will still suck to lose to Ohio State, we'll still want to win, but the loss will be dampened by the fact that it literally wouldn't have mattered in a 12 team format. We'd still very much be guaranteed a playoff spot. And therein lies the problem. In 1969 when Michigan took out #1 Ohio State, it wouldn't matter in a 12 team format. Ohio State would still go to the playoff. It would have been nothing more than a moral victory for Michigan, not a victory that knocked Ohio State out of contention; devastating their fans. It's THAT exact thing that makes CFB fun. Gone overnight with a 12 team format.
I suspect if you go back and look at a list of all the best games in CFB, they simply wouldn't matter if there was a 12 team playoff at the time.
I was too. What changed my mind was getting some of the games back at home stadiums. Seems 12 was the number at which there would be agreement. I just wish they’d gone another round or two with it. Teams play in hostile environments all year. But, I’m in the minority because IDGAF about what it would do to bowl games.
Let ALL 118 remaining teams schedule an additional game with each other so they also get that extra practice. If two want to medt in a bowl somewhere, fine. If Houston and San Diego State decide they like to play in the Sun Bowl, we’ll host ‘em. If Houston would like to visit beautiful San Diego in December, that’d work too.