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[Me]

You are right on tract SR...

'Calories' (aka 'Energy' to the body) are quantified by caloric intake type per gram as follows:

- Carbohydrates provide 4 calories per gram.
- Protein provides 4 calories per gram.
- Fat provides 9 calories per gram

Since fat provides the most energy per gram, the body stores any excess as fat.

Basically, if you want to monitor the amount of fat you store, the rule of thumb for a daily 2K calorie intake, amounts over ~80 grams of total fat will store and/or ~25 grams of unsaturated fats will store.

With that in mind, those amounts under those targets will be used as energy.

He's not on track. Calories and mass ("weight") are not the same thing.

 

[Vita]

He's not on track. Calories and mass ("weight") are not the same thing.

I was only talking about what he stated in the post I quoted........ that was on track...

TBF, I've never heard of mass described as weight, (Only as a measure of Inertia) so if that's the argument, arguing calories and mass is kind of like arguing apples and orangutans.

Now there is BMI which could be what you are describing, that's the Body Mass Index.

 

[Me]

I was only talking about what he stated in the post I quoted........ that was on track...

TBF, I've never heard of mass described as weight, (Only as a measure of Inertia) so if that's the argument, arguing calories and mass is kind of like arguing apples and orangutans.

Now there is BMI which could be what you are describing, that's the Body Mass Index.

"some amount of it gets converted to energy" is not on track.

I didn't want to describe mass as weight, but we were talking about pounds, and mass and weight have a correlation. That's why I put weight in quotes. I am talking about mass. The amount of mass that enters your body has to equal the amount that leaves your body (or you can gain/lose mass in your body). It doesn't get converted to energy.

 

[Vita]

"some amount of it gets converted to energy" is not on track.

I didn't want to describe mass as weight, but we were talking about pounds, and mass and weight have a correlation. That's why I put weight in quotes. I am talking about mass. The amount of mass that enters your body has to equal the amount that leaves your body (or you can gain/lose mass in your body). It doesn't get converted to energy.

Yeah, I thought I knew what you were saying regarding your 'mass' reference, and I just having a little fun. However, I really didn't understand how you were describing mass at all, I really thought you were talking about body mass.

If I actually understand you right, when you say mass, you are really talking about dietary intake?

To restate your last 2 sentences...
The amount of 'dietary intake' (What you described as 'mass' or 'calories') has to be equal to the amount that leaves your body.
It doesn't get converted to energy.

This is absolutely false, the body actually gets ~67% of your dietary intake. The remaining 3rd is used by your colon, liver and kidneys for example for proper function.

Of the 67%, the body actually uses it as energy, storage or simply passes it through the digestive tract.

Hope that helps!

 

[Me]

Yeah, I thought I knew what you were saying regarding your 'mass' reference, and I just having a little fun. However, I really didn't understand how you were describing mass at all, I really thought you were talking about body mass.

If I actually understand you right, when you say mass, you are really talking about dietary intake?

To restate your last 2 sentences...
The amount of 'dietary intake' (What you described as 'mass' or 'calories') has to be equal to the amount that leaves your body.
It doesn't get converted to energy.

This is absolutely false, the body actually gets ~67% of your dietary intake. The remaining 3rd is used by your colon, liver and kidneys for example for proper function.

Of the 67%, the body actually uses it as energy, storage or simply passes it through the digestive tract.

Hope that helps!

Your explanation helped nothing. I am not describing calories. I don't gaf about calories.

 

[Deep Dish Pizza Goat]

oh dear

 

[Vita]

Your explanation helped nothing. I am not describing calories. I don't gaf about calories.

I never said the word calories once, save the quote of yours.

I'll make it simple, when you say....

The amount of mass that enters your body has to equal the amount that leaves your body (or you can gain/lose mass in your body). It doesn't get converted to energy.

This is absolutely false.

How do you think your body gets energy?

Where does the body get the electrolytes, minerals, amino acids and bacteria needed for body functions from?

 

[Me]

I never said the word calories once, save the quote of yours.

I'll make it simple, when you say....

The amount of mass that enters your body has to equal the amount that leaves your body (or you can gain/lose mass in your body). It doesn't get converted to energy.

This is absolutely false.

How do you think your body gets energy?

Where does the body get the electrolytes, minerals, amino acids and bacteria needed for body functions from?

This is most certainly, 100% true. Do you think you create new elements within your body?

 

[Vita]

This is most certainly, 100% true. Do you think you create new elements within your body?

If you mean elements like the macro and micro elements I just described, no I didn't create those, you just are not accounting for them, they come from your dietary intake.

And if what you are saying is 100% true, where does your body get the energy it needs every second of the day to keep you alive, much less keep you truckin through the day?

 

[Me]

If you mean elements like the macro and micro elements I just described, no I didn't create those, you just are not accounting for them, they come from your dietary intake.

And if what you are saying is 100% true, where does your body get the energy it needs every second of the day to keep you alive, much less keep you truckin through the day?

I mean elements. Like oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, etc.

I'm not a biologist, so I'm going to be somewhat out of my element on this one, but I'm assuming the energy comes from the the bonds in molecules that your body is breaking down.

 

[Vita]

I mean elements. Like oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, etc.

I'm not a biologist, so I'm going to be somewhat out of my element on this one, but I'm assuming the energy comes from the the bonds in molecules that your body is breaking down.

My first post this morning that you poo, poo'd told you exactly where energy comes from by gram to be exact, which comes from the foods we eat.

You are right on tract SR...

'Calories' (aka 'Energy' to the body) are quantified by caloric intake type per gram as follows:

- Carbohydrates provide 4 calories per gram.
- Protein provides 4 calories per gram.
- Fat provides 9 calories per gram

Since fat provides the most energy per gram, the body stores any excess as fat.

Basically, if you want to monitor the amount of fat you store, the rule of thumb for a daily 2K calorie intake, amounts over ~80 grams of total fat will store and/or ~25 grams of unsaturated fats will store.

With that in mind, those amounts under those targets will be used as energy.

Sorry, it's from calories which is part of the dietary intake or what foods and drink you consume.

The only missing ingredient, yet a very important one is Oxygen.... but Oxygen is not considered part of your dietary intake, yet very necessary for the process of those specific calories, described in my quote, to be used as energy.

 

[Vita]

Sorry Bucs, even if we discount the energy component, when I informed you of the 67% detail, it tells you there are a lot of other nutritional values of our diets that do a variety of functions for the body necessary to keep us alive.

the body actually gets ~67% of your dietary intake. The remaining 3rd is used by your colon, liver and kidneys for example for proper function.

Of the 67%, the body actually uses it as energy, storage or simply passes it through the digestive tract.

And I know your not a biologist, and neither am I but when we talk elements, there is a whole table of them...

Macro, and Micro, Solid and Gases....

 

[Me]

My first post this morning that you poo, poo'd told you exactly where energy comes from by gram to be exact, which comes from the foods we eat.



Sorry, it's from calories which is part of the dietary intake or what foods and drink you consume.

The only missing ingredient, yet a very important one is Oxygen.... but Oxygen is not considered part of your dietary intake, yet very necessary for the process of those specific calories, described in my quote, to be used as energy.

I didn't poo poo your post necessarily. We were talking about your bodily discharges matching intake. He commented that some of that mass got converted to energy. That is what I poo pooed.

 

[Me]

Sorry Bucs, even if we discount the energy component, when I informed you of the 67% detail, it tells you there are a lot of other nutritional values of our diets that do a variety of functions for the body necessary to keep us alive.



And I know your not a biologist, and neither am I but when we talk elements, there is a whole table of them...
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I am well aware of all of this. My whole point is that you aren't converting mass to energy. It's not happening.

 

[Vita]

I am well aware of all of this. My whole point is that you aren't converting mass to energy. It's not happening.

Mass, you mean as in the food you eat?

If not from mass, and I've asked you before, where do we get our energy from?

 

[Me]

Mass, you mean as in the food you eat?

If not from mass, and I've asked you before, where do we get our energy from?

Chemical bonds

 

[Vita]

Chemical bonds

I can live with that, I'll add covalent bonds too, sine there are twice as many bond types.

But how does the body get these 'energy' bonds?

And if you don't absolutely agree with the covalent bonds aspect, we can just discuss the chemical bonds..

So, how does the body get those chemical bonds to provide the necessary energy we need to stay alive?

 

[Me]

I can live with that, I'll add covalent bonds too, sine there are twice as many bond types.

But how does the body get these 'energy' bonds?

And if you don't absolutely agree with the covalent bonds aspect, we can just discuss the chemical bonds..

So, how does the body get those chemical bonds to provide the necessary energy we need to stay alive?

Well, covalent bonds are chemical bonds.

I honestly don't know the specific details on how your body accesses that energy. I just know that it does.

Where else is it getting it from? Our bodies aren't nuclear reactors splitting atoms.

 

[Vita]

Well, covalent bonds are chemical bonds.

I honestly don't know the specific details on how your body accesses that energy. I just know that it does.

Where else is it getting it from? Our bodies aren't nuclear reactors splitting atoms.

Yes, covalent bonds are chemical bonds, not all chemical bonds are covalent, there is the unique distinction.

So I get it, you don't know the specifics on how our bodies access that energy, thankfully I do.

Our bodies must access to these associated chemicals from our dietary intake.

Proteins are a peptide chemical bond, aka p-bonds.

Carbohydrates are linked by covalent bonds, aka glycosidic bonds.

Fats essentially are attached to oxygen by covalent bonds.

This is how our body uses dietary intake of Proteins, Carbs & Fats to form energy.

 

[Deep Dish Pizza Goat]

Fuck now even im out.