Former Husker beaver QB Tristan Gebbia ends up at tOSU??

[fishinabarrel]

You don't need a Bennett. I had an OSU fan tell me today that McCord is light years better than Stroud and Stroud was only playing because he was older. So you guys are set at QB.

I hope it's true but I'm not sure how anyone could know that. Honestly the last I heard was that Devin brown was going to have the better shot bc he was more mobile

 

[osubuckeye89]

I expect McCord or Brown will probably put up pretty good stats purely based off of the skill position talent around them.

The question is do they have that ability to make the tougher throws when they have to.

JT Barrett put up some decent passing stats for example (threw for 30+ TDs twice), but you knew that elite throwing ability just wasn't there.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

I hope it's true but I'm not sure how anyone could know that. Honestly the last I heard was that Devin brown was going to have the better shot bc he was more mobile

He blamed Day. Said Day was holding him back.

I have no doubt whoever is QB at OSU will be good, but saying the backup is way better than Stroud, who could be drafted anywhere from 1st-4th in the NFL draft is going a little overboard.

 

[osubuckeye89]

He blamed Day. Said Day was holding him back.

I have no doubt whoever is QB at OSU will be good, but saying the backup is way better than Stroud, who could be drafted anywhere from 1st-4th in the NFL draft is going a little overboard.

I agree with that. I doubt they will be "as good" as Stroud, but that doesn't mean they still can't be good.

They really just need to be able to distribute without turning it over too much and i'll call it a W.

The hope is our run game gets back on track next year with a stable of healthy again RBs. And they don't all get constantly hurt like they did all year this year. That will help a lot.

Hopefully BETTER PLAY CALLING too, and not running the certain RBs against their best abilities.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

I agree with that. I doubt they will be "as good" as Stroud, but that doesn't mean they still can't be good.

They really just need to be able to distribute without turning it over too much and i'll call it a W.

The hope is our run game gets back on track next year with a stable of healthy again RBs. And they don't all get constantly hurt like they did all year this year. That will help a lot.

Hopefully BETTER PLAY CALLING too, and not running the certain RBs against their best abilities.

I don't doubt that he won't be a solid QB, but in today's CFB with the portal and NIL, it is next to impossible to get an elite QB to sit for 2 years with the possibility of a 3rd year, as Stroud still had time remaining -- when you can simply go into portal and you are a starting QB and you are now making way more money.

That is why McNamara wasn't Michigan's QB this year. If they didn't give McCarthy the starting job -- he'd have been on the same route as McNamara. In the portal.

I shouldn't talk in absolutes. He could be an albatross and is fine being a backup for multiple years and not making as much NIL or he could be from a wealthy family and money doesn't mean much to him.

 

[fishinabarrel]

He blamed Day. Said Day was holding him back.

I have no doubt whoever is QB at OSU will be good, but saying the backup is way better than Stroud, who could be drafted anywhere from 1st-4th in the NFL draft is going a little overboard.

I mean whoever comes in is throwing to Harrison, Egbuka, and Fleming, plus other young receivers who will probably step up next season

 

[huskers1217]

I mean how stacked is your QB room when Joe Burrow cannot get on the field?

Imagine Nebraska not wanting him at all

 

[fishinabarrel]

Imagine Nebraska not wanting him at all

 

[Jon Deaux]

Imagine Nebraska not wanting him at all

and we be athankin' ya

 

[osubuckeye89]

I don't doubt that he won't be a solid QB, but in today's CFB with the portal and NIL, it is next to impossible to get an elite QB to sit for 2 years with the possibility of a 3rd year, as Stroud still had time remaining -- when you can simply go into portal and you are a starting QB and you are now making way more money.

That is why McNamara wasn't Michigan's QB this year. If they didn't give McCarthy the starting job -- he'd have been on the same route as McNamara. In the portal.

I shouldn't talk in absolutes. He could be an albatross and is fine being a backup for multiple years and not making as much NIL or he could be from a wealthy family and money doesn't mean much to him.

I mean nobody really knows if McCord or Brown are "elite" or not.

For example. Burrow didn't become elite until his 2nd season at LSU. He was a unknown comin from Ohio State and was pretty damn mediocre year 1 at LSU (57% 16 TD 5 INT) You can't really say a guy like Burrow was a known elite commodity going from Ohio State to LSU.

There were a lot of questions after Fields left too, Stroud was 100% a unknown. We saw very little from him before he took over. This is just how Day manages his QBs for whatever reason.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

I mean nobody really knows if McCord or Brown are "elite" or not.

For example. Burrow didn't become elite until his 2nd season at LSU. He was a unknown comin from Ohio State and was pretty damn mediocre year 1 at LSU (57% 16 TD 5 INT) You can't really say a guy like Burrow was a known elite commodity going from Ohio State to LSU.

There were a lot of questions after Fields left too, Stroud was 100% a unknown. We saw very little from him before he took over. This is just how Day manages his QBs for whatever reason.

You can't go back to Burrow, as they didn't have the free transfers and NIL deals back then. Same with Stroud -- he was only at OSU 1 year before he became starter.

As far as Fields -- He had a perfect recruiting ranking. It isn't as if anyone questions his talent.

 

[osubuckeye89]

You can't go back to Burrow, as they didn't have the free transfers and NIL deals back then. Same with Stroud -- he was only at OSU 1 year before he became starter.

As far as Fields -- He had a perfect recruiting ranking. It isn't as if anyone questions his talent.

McCord was pretty highly rated but not on that Fields level. He’s not a guy a big program would lure with a NIL deal to come in and start because he’s such a unknown. There’s not that certainty you had with fields. It makes more sense for McCord to wait that extra year at Ohio State and try to win the job, if he doesn’t he can always transfer out to a lesser school who needs a QB after spring.

Brown was a freshman this year so he knew coming in he wasn’t going to play until maybe this next year.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

McCord was pretty highly rated but not on that Fields level. He’s not a guy a big program would lure with a NIL deal to come in and start because he’s such a unknown. There’s not that certainty you had with fields. It makes more sense for McCord to wait that extra year at Ohio State and try to win the job, if he doesn’t he can always transfer out to a lesser school who needs a QB after spring.

Brown was a freshman this year so he knew coming in he wasn’t going to play until maybe this next year.

That is why I'm not 100% sold that OSU may have a drop at QB next year. It doesn't make sense for any kid to sit for 2 or more years for a 'chance to be the starter' in today's game.

Against lesser teams -- it isn't going to show, as OSU has SO much talent at WR, but against the teams who have talent -- I think you may see him struggle.

Will be an interesting year. I could be dead wrong -- but personally, I don't see any kid whose goal is to be in the NFL willing to sit on the sideline for multiple years with the landscape of CFB as it is. Starting QB's are getting ridiculous money in NIL deals. The experience on the field is invaluable. But in the end, we won't know until we see him on the field.

 

[osubuckeye89]

That is why I'm not 100% sold that OSU may have a drop at QB next year. It doesn't make sense for any kid to sit for 2 or more years for a 'chance to be the starter' in today's game.

Against lesser teams -- it isn't going to show, as OSU has SO much talent at WR, but against the teams who have talent -- I think you may see him struggle.

Will be an interesting year. I could be dead wrong -- but personally, I don't see any kid whose goal is to be in the NFL willing to sit on the sideline for multiple years with the landscape of CFB as it is. Starting QB's are getting ridiculous money in NIL deals. The experience on the field is invaluable. But in the end, we won't know until we see him on the field.

I think Brown is going to end up being the guy anyways. Can’t throw that criticism on him since he’s only a freshman this year.

But like I said Stroud had essentially zero real
Playing time before he took over. I’ll trust Day with the QB decisions until he proves to fail

 

[fishinabarrel]

That is why I'm not 100% sold that OSU may have a drop at QB next year. It doesn't make sense for any kid to sit for 2 or more years for a 'chance to be the starter' in today's game.

Against lesser teams -- it isn't going to show, as OSU has SO much talent at WR, but against the teams who have talent -- I think you may see him struggle.

Will be an interesting year. I could be dead wrong -- but personally, I don't see any kid whose goal is to be in the NFL willing to sit on the sideline for multiple years with the landscape of CFB as it is. Starting QB's are getting ridiculous money in NIL deals. The experience on the field is invaluable. But in the end, we won't know until we see him on the field.

Why do you think transferring somewhere else earlier would give McCord a better NFL chance than biding his time and waiting to play with the receiving talent Ohio State has?

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

I think Brown is going to end up being the guy anyways. Can’t throw that criticism on him since he’s only a freshman this year.

But like I said Stroud had essentially zero real
Playing time before he took over. I’ll trust Day with the QB decisions until he proves to fail

i can't say i know anything about Brown. So I have no opinion on him. I feel bad for McCord if that is the case.

and while i respect the QB's OSU have put out lately -- i think a ton of it has to do with the WR talent OSU puts onto the field. They are essentially throwing to multiple 1st round NFL draft picks every year against the majority of teams who have no chance of covering them.

I'm so jealous of that WR room OSU has each and every year. Man. I wish UM could get one of them.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Why do you think transferring somewhere else earlier would give McCord a better NFL chance than biding his time and waiting to play with the receiving talent Ohio State has?

Experience more than anything else. Also, as a backup QB who isn't seeing the field, he isn't getting anything remotely close in NIL deals he would be getting as a starting QB at a major P5 school.

No team in college football will give him the WR talent OSU has, but starting QB's are making 6 and 7 figures in NIL -- He isn't making that sitting on the sideline. With the portal, if you don't see the field after year 1 and you are ready to be a starter -- you go where they need a starter or you are losing a ton of money. Of course, this wasn't the case a few years ago, but with free transfers and NIL -- I can't see any elite QB sitting on the sideline for multiple years watching someone else make all the money.

 

[Across The Field]

Experience more than anything else. Also, as a backup QB who isn't seeing the field, he isn't getting anything remotely close in NIL deals he would be getting as a starting QB at a major P5 school.

No team in college football will give him the WR talent OSU has, but starting QB's are making 6 and 7 figures in NIL -- He isn't making that sitting on the sideline. With the portal, if you don't see the field after year 1 and you are ready to be a starter -- you go where they need a starter or you are losing a ton of money. Of course, this wasn't the case a few years ago, but with free transfers and NIL -- I can't see any elite QB sitting on the sideline for multiple years watching someone else make all the money.

I don't think money is an issue for McCord, and it's not like he's made $0 at OSU - he's been involved with at least 2 different NIL deals since it first started that I'm aware of.

Also, it could be that Ryan Day has put 3 straight starting QBs in the first half of the first round of the draft. His thought was that he'd probably sit a couple years, learn the system, take over in year 3 and head to the pros with a solid season and a first round projection. He's got the size and arm to play in the pros, so why fuck with that to roll the dice and go somewhere else that doesn't have Day's track record?

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

I don't think money is an issue for McCord, and it's not like he's made $0 at OSU - he's been involved with at least 2 different NIL deals since it first started that I'm aware of.

Also, it could be that Ryan Day has put 3 straight starting QBs in the first half of the first round of the draft. His thought was that he'd probably sit a couple years, learn the system, take over in year 3 and head to the pros with a solid season and a first round projection. He's got the size and arm to play in the pros, so why fuck with that to roll the dice and go somewhere else that doesn't have Day's track record?o

Money is an issue for every player, as the NFL is not a given. When you see Stroud driving a 200k Mercedes G Wagon -- you definitely see dollar figures.

And while getting a QB picked is great -- Ryan Day's starting QBs have struggled in the NFL once they don't have WR's who are light years better than the CBs covering them. Haskins and Fields combined threw for 36 tds and 36 ints thus far.

I think your WR's are who are being produced at an elite level. I think your QB's are riding their coattails.

 

[Across The Field]

Money is an issue for every player, as the NFL is not a given. When you see Stroud driving a 200k Mercedes G Wagon -- you definitely see dollar figures.

And while getting a QB picked is great -- Ryan Day's starting QBs have struggled in the NFL once they don't have WR's who are light years better than the CBs covering them. Haskins and Fields combined threw for 36 tds and 36 ints thus far.

I think your WR's are who are being produced at an elite level. I think your QB's are riding their coattails.

I mean McCord doesn't need money because I think he comes from it. He also has come out and claimed coaching is the reason he never looked at the transfer portal when Jack Miller and Ewers did.

Your point about how the QBs have done in the NFL is stupid. It's been discussed at length, there is no school that consistently puts out QBs that are also elite at the next level. Where you're drafted, who the coach is, what the scheme is, and what the OL/weapons rooms look like are far bigger factors when looking at NFL success. Neither Fields nor Haskins were in an even remotely good spot as starters. Haskins was immature, which has nothing to do with Day, but Fields has taken a big step this year despite having shit for an offensive supporting cast. Bottom line, though, is that Day is putting them in the first round at a clip that nearly nobody else is, and that's all that matters.