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[ralphiewvu]

Nebraska All Time Football Recruits

Nebraska

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Here are Nebraska's all time highest ranked recruits since the turn of the century. This is over TWENTY TWO YEARS. They have signed two five star recruits and 16 top 100 recruits. That is an average recruiting class for the elite programs each year.

Jesus Christ could be named head coach at Nebraska and they still wouldn't be able to recruit like the nationally elite programs in today's college football. The kids in the south were raised on SEC football, they grew up dreaming of playing SEC football, they dreamed of playing for "fill in the blank" school in the South. The kids in the Midwest dreamed of playing for Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State.

Nebraska doesn't have that, because Nebraska doesn't have any in state talent or talent in surrounding states. So they are fighting an uphill battle right off the get. I'm just speaking common sense.

What made Nebraska great in the 70's-90's is -- they were the first school to take strength and condition seriously, so that gave them a huge advantage. Now.........every high school has strength and conditioning programs. Another thing that made Nebraska great is something that also made UM and teams like Penn State so good in that era -- the Midwest was where the premier talent was in the 70's, 80's and 90's -- because teams pounded the football. The population shifted to the South over time and now the overwhelming majority of elite recruits are in the South and it isn't even close. Also - social media and the internet happened -- there are no recruits falling thru the cracks and with specialized coaching at the high school level, national camps, 7 on 7, individual coaches -- recruits are more prepared then ever, so building a roster on 2 and 3 star recruits and expecting to compete with teams filled with high 4 and 5 star guys isn't happening.

You will never see a coach leave a big time program to go to Nebraska, like Riley did to go to USC and Kelly did to go to LSU. It is why the coaches they have hired in the last 20+ years haven't been big names, because coaches know how hard it is going to be to keep up with the elite programs recruiting when you have no base set of recruits in state.

That’s all neat and everything, but since that said turn of the century they managed to have at least 9 wins in 12 of those years, made an NC appearance and have finished ranked nearly half the time. Yes they have had a downturn recently but its not impossible for them to come back to winning 9/10 a year and then things only getting better after that.

List of Nebraska Cornhuskers football seasons - Wikipedia

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[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Nebraska will compete financially with ANYBODY and there is zero evidence to suggest otherwise.

Nebraska's endowment for the University is 1.2 billion. Michigan's endowment for the University is 17 billion.

Donors give record $236.7 million to University of Nebraska -- this was the record year for donations to Nebraska. To put it in perspective how little that is. Between just Stephen Ross ($200 million) and Alfred A. Taubman ($110 million) -- UM had $310 million in 2013 from just two guys.

Currently got a $155,000,000 facility renovation/upgrade/buildout going on too when that gets done should be the best in the country (for a minute anyway)

$155,000,000 sounds like a lot, until you realize what schools actually spend on these upgrades. Michigan just spend $250 million to upgrade non-revenue sport facilities.

And Michigan doesn't spend anything when you compare them to the Texas A&M, Texas, Bama, Georgia, Oregon, etc.

 

[Huskers4me]

Nebraska All Time Football Recruits

Nebraska

247sports.com

Here are Nebraska's all time highest ranked recruits since the turn of the century. This is over TWENTY TWO YEARS. They have signed two five star recruits and 16 top 100 recruits. That is an average recruiting class for the elite programs each year.

Jesus Christ could be named head coach at Nebraska and they still wouldn't be able to recruit like the nationally elite programs in today's college football. The kids in the south were raised on SEC football, they grew up dreaming of playing SEC football, they dreamed of playing for "fill in the blank" school in the South. The kids in the Midwest dreamed of playing for Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State.

Nebraska doesn't have that, because Nebraska doesn't have any in state talent or talent in surrounding states. So they are fighting an uphill battle right off the get. I'm just speaking common sense.

What made Nebraska great in the 70's-90's is -- they were the first school to take strength and condition seriously, so that gave them a huge advantage. Now.........every high school has strength and conditioning programs. Another thing that made Nebraska great is something that also made UM and teams like Penn State so good in that era -- the Midwest was where the premier talent was in the 70's, 80's and 90's -- because teams pounded the football. The population shifted to the South over time and now the overwhelming majority of elite recruits are in the South and it isn't even close. Also - social media and the internet happened -- there are no recruits falling thru the cracks and with specialized coaching at the high school level, national camps, 7 on 7, individual coaches -- recruits are more prepared then ever, so building a roster on 2 and 3 star recruits and expecting to compete with teams filled with high 4 and 5 star guys isn't happening.

You will never see a coach leave a big time program to go to Nebraska, like Riley did to go to USC and Kelly did to go to LSU. It is why the coaches they have hired in the last 20+ years haven't been big names, because coaches know how hard it is going to be to keep up with the elite programs recruiting when you have no base set of recruits in state.

Long winded bla bla bla bla bla. Seriously no one cares enough to read it.

 

[Huskers4me]

Nebraska's endowment for the University is over 2 billion. Michigan's endowment for the University is 17 billion.

FIFY

 

[Huskers4me]

Why a $2 Billion Foundation Scrapped Its Entire Hedge Fund Portfolio

The University of Nebraska Foundation is forgoing hedge funds in favor of real assets and private equity.

www.institutionalinvestor.com

 

[NU_WTF?]

Nebraska's endowment for the University is 1.2 billion. Michigan's endowment for the University is 17 billion.

Donors give record $236.7 million to University of Nebraska -- this was the record year for donations to Nebraska. To put it in perspective how little that is. Between just Stephen Ross ($200 million) and Alfred A. Taubman ($110 million) -- UM had $310 million in 2013 from just two guys.



$155,000,000 sounds like a lot, until you realize what schools actually spend on these upgrades. Michigan just spend $250 million to upgrade non-revenue sport facilities.

And Michigan doesn't spend anything when you compare them to the Texas A&M, Texas, Bama, Georgia, Oregon, etc.

Derpy derp derp nobody cares about Michigans endowment. It doesnt make a bit of a difference to NIL money.

Nobody cares about michigan, if you want to talk michigan go start a thread. You've grown very boring with your constant being wrong

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Nebraska has always funded exactly what they need. Just admit you're a clueless michigan fan and we can move on from this. You really dont have any idea what you're talking about.

No they haven't. They're bad. Have been bad for two decades. You cant get recruits to come to play there. They could, and would absolutely take more, money if someone gave it to them.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Source?

Go back a page or two. Nebraska ranks outside the top 15 in most financial rankings. They're equivalent to Wisconsin or Michigan State. Have some money, more than most, but not enough.

 

[NU_WTF?]

No they haven't. They're bad. Have been bad for two decades. You cant get recruits to come to play there. They could, and would absolutely take more, money if someone gave it to them.

LOL. Thanks for proving how terribly retarded you are. Revenue <> NIL go start a thread about michigan where nobody will give a shit. Im done talking to you mouth breathers who cant understand basic economics. Nobody has been investing in NIL for a coach they intend to fire, that would be as retarded as a michigan fan thinking they are elite.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

LOL. Thanks for proving how terribly retarded you are. Revenue <> NIL go start a thread about michigan where nobody will give a shit. Im done talking to you mouth breathers who cant understand basic economics. Nobody has been investing in NIL for a coach they intend to fire, that would be as retarded as a michigan fan thinking they are elite.

Revenue includes donation power. Donation power directly correlates with NIL success and ability. Nebraska will continue to compete with Wisconsin and is no where in the ballpark of cracking the top 10 in that arena.

 

[Huskers4me]

They're bad. Have been bad for two decades.

What’s with you pricks - always saying we are living in the past but constantly bringing up that shit. dumb ass hypocrite.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

What’s with you pricks - always saying we are living in the past but constantly bringing up that shit. dumb ass hypocrite.

What shit? Nebraska hasn't proven able to recruit since before the college football post-season was reorganized by the BCS. I was using the most recent history to prove that Nebraska fans are thinking Nebraska is capable of something that they haven't ever done.

 

[NU_WTF?]

What’s with you pricks - always saying we are living in the past but constantly bringing up that shit. dumb ass hypocrite.

Mouth breathers from Michigan are clueless. Any thread about nebraska and their butthurt gets put on full display, they cant stay away. Moth to a flame.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Mouth breathers from Michigan are clueless. Any thread about nebraska and their butthurt gets put on full display, they cant stay away. Moth to a flame.

The only butt hurt people around here are those who aren't accepting the reality of the situation.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

That’s all neat and everything, but since that said turn of the century they managed to have at least 9 wins in 12 of those years, made an NC appearance and have finished ranked nearly half the time. Yes they have had a downturn recently but its not impossible for them to come back to winning 9/10 a year and then things only getting better after that.

9-4 doesn't even make you a 2nd tier team, let alone elite. Using your logic -- Michigan is elite because they've won 10 or more games 9 times since the turn of the century. UM isn't elite and I'm a die hard UM fan.

Elite is losing one or two games a year and in today's CFB where they are playing 13 games or more -- that means winning 11 or more games. 9 wins was an accomplishment when they had 11 game schedules. 10 wins was an accomplishment when they had 12 game schedules. 9 wins now means you lost 4 games.

Last year in the B1G alone, Michigan had 12 wins, Ohio State had 11 wins, Michigan State had 11 wins, Iowa had 10 wins, Purdue had 9 wins, Minnesota had 9 wins, Wisconsin had 9 wins.

That is half of the B1G with 9 or more wins last year. That isn't even remotely close to elite programs.

THIS IS ELITE.

1	2022	Big Ten	2	0		1.000					25.67	8.17	2	2		Ryan Day (2-0)
2	2021	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	8	1	0	.889	19.53	5.53	4	2	6	Ryan Day (11-2)	Rose Bowl-W
3	2020	Big Ten	7	1	0	.875	6	0	0	1.000	21.37	8.99	2	2	2	Ryan Day (7-1)	Sugar Bowl-W, College Football Championship-L
4	2019	Big Ten	13	1	0	.929	9	0	0	1.000	27.39	7.32	5	2	3	Ryan Day (13-1)	Fiesta Bowl-L
5	2018	Big Ten	13	1	0	.929	8	1	0	.889	17.74	4.10	5	2	3	Ryan Day (3-0), Urban Meyer (10-1)	Rose Bowl-W
6	2017	Big Ten	12	2	0	.857	8	1	0	.889	21.82	7.89	2	2	5	Urban Meyer (12-2)	Cotton Bowl-W
7	2016	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	8	1	0	.889	18.82	6.59	6	2	6	Urban Meyer (11-2)	Fiesta Bowl-L
8	2015	Big Ten	12	1	0	.923	7	1	0	.875	20.73	3.81	1	1	4	Urban Meyer (12-1)	Fiesta Bowl-W
9	2014	Big Ten	14	1	0	.933	8	0	0	1.000	20.44	5.17	5	1	1	Urban Meyer (14-1)	Sugar Bowl-W, College Football Championship-W
10	2013	Big Ten	12	2	0	.857	8	0	0	1.000	15.65	1.43	2	2	12	Urban Meyer (12-2)	Orange Bowl-L
11	2012	Big Ten	12	0	0	1.000	8	0	0	1.000	13.81	0.89	18	3	3	Urban Meyer (12-0)
12	2011	Big Ten	6	7	0	.462	3	5	0	.375	4.66	2.97	18	15		Luke Fickell (6-7)	Gator Bowl-L
13	2010	Big Ten	12	1	0	.923	7	1	0	.875	17.37	0.75	2	1	5	Jim Tressel (12-1)	Sugar Bowl-W	record adjusted to 0-0-0 by NCAA
14	2009	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	7	1	0	.875	14.71	1.71	6	5	5	Jim Tressel (11-2)	Rose Bowl-W
15	2008	Big Ten	10	3	0	.769	7	1	0	.875	13.94	3.87	2	2	9	Jim Tressel (10-3)	Fiesta Bowl-L
16	2007	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	7	1	0	.875	14.84	0.53	11	1	5	Jim Tressel (11-2)	BCS Championship-L
17	2006	Big Ten	12	1	0	.923	8	0	0	1.000	18.76	2.07	1	1	2	Jim Tressel (12-1)	BCS Championship-L
18	2005	Big Ten	10	2	0	.833	7	1	0	.875	22.97	8.89	6	4	4	Jim Tressel (10-2)	Fiesta Bowl-W

 

[ralphiewvu]

9-4 doesn't even make you a 2nd tier team, let alone elite. Using your logic -- Michigan is elite because they've won 10 or more games 9 times since the turn of the century. UM isn't elite and I'm a die hard UM fan.

Elite is losing one or two games a year and in today's CFB where they are playing 13 games or more -- that means winning 11 or more games. 9 wins was an accomplishment when they had 11 game schedules. 10 wins was an accomplishment when they had 12 game schedules. 9 wins now means you lost 4 games.

Last year in the B1G alone, Michigan had 12 wins, Ohio State had 11 wins, Michigan State had 11 wins, Iowa had 10 wins, Purdue had 9 wins, Minnesota had 9 wins, Wisconsin had 9 wins.

That is half of the B1G with 9 or more wins last year. That isn't even remotely close to elite programs.

THIS IS ELITE.

1	2022	Big Ten	2	0		1.000					25.67	8.17	2	2		Ryan Day (2-0)
2	2021	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	8	1	0	.889	19.53	5.53	4	2	6	Ryan Day (11-2)	Rose Bowl-W
3	2020	Big Ten	7	1	0	.875	6	0	0	1.000	21.37	8.99	2	2	2	Ryan Day (7-1)	Sugar Bowl-W, College Football Championship-L
4	2019	Big Ten	13	1	0	.929	9	0	0	1.000	27.39	7.32	5	2	3	Ryan Day (13-1)	Fiesta Bowl-L
5	2018	Big Ten	13	1	0	.929	8	1	0	.889	17.74	4.10	5	2	3	Ryan Day (3-0), Urban Meyer (10-1)	Rose Bowl-W
6	2017	Big Ten	12	2	0	.857	8	1	0	.889	21.82	7.89	2	2	5	Urban Meyer (12-2)	Cotton Bowl-W
7	2016	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	8	1	0	.889	18.82	6.59	6	2	6	Urban Meyer (11-2)	Fiesta Bowl-L
8	2015	Big Ten	12	1	0	.923	7	1	0	.875	20.73	3.81	1	1	4	Urban Meyer (12-1)	Fiesta Bowl-W
9	2014	Big Ten	14	1	0	.933	8	0	0	1.000	20.44	5.17	5	1	1	Urban Meyer (14-1)	Sugar Bowl-W, College Football Championship-W
10	2013	Big Ten	12	2	0	.857	8	0	0	1.000	15.65	1.43	2	2	12	Urban Meyer (12-2)	Orange Bowl-L
11	2012	Big Ten	12	0	0	1.000	8	0	0	1.000	13.81	0.89	18	3	3	Urban Meyer (12-0)
12	2011	Big Ten	6	7	0	.462	3	5	0	.375	4.66	2.97	18	15		Luke Fickell (6-7)	Gator Bowl-L
13	2010	Big Ten	12	1	0	.923	7	1	0	.875	17.37	0.75	2	1	5	Jim Tressel (12-1)	Sugar Bowl-W	record adjusted to 0-0-0 by NCAA
14	2009	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	7	1	0	.875	14.71	1.71	6	5	5	Jim Tressel (11-2)	Rose Bowl-W
15	2008	Big Ten	10	3	0	.769	7	1	0	.875	13.94	3.87	2	2	9	Jim Tressel (10-3)	Fiesta Bowl-L
16	2007	Big Ten	11	2	0	.846	7	1	0	.875	14.84	0.53	11	1	5	Jim Tressel (11-2)	BCS Championship-L
17	2006	Big Ten	12	1	0	.923	8	0	0	1.000	18.76	2.07	1	1	2	Jim Tressel (12-1)	BCS Championship-L
18	2005	Big Ten	10	2	0	.833	7	1	0	.875	22.97	8.89	6	4	4	Jim Tressel (10-2)	Fiesta Bowl-W

Again, I’m not saying 9 or 10 wins is elite. Stop saying things I never said. But the more wins you get yearly the better chance you have of getting good/better recruiting classes. I’m not arguing Nebraska will ever become elite again. I’m arguing their location (while not ideal) doesn’t automatically make it impossible for them to start building toward that.

If and that’s a big if they can get coaching that will win them games and put players in the nfl it really doesn’t matter if they are located in Alpine, Alaska. Location doesn’t disqualify anyone.

 

[rsw626]

Go back a page or two. Nebraska ranks outside the top 15 in most financial rankings. They're equivalent to Wisconsin or Michigan State. Have some money, more than most, but not enough.

Explain Clemson. They are below NU and all the others in revenue, yet they are in the mix every year. It's not all about money, Texas and TAMU have more than anybody yet...

There are issues in Lincoln, but it's not money.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Explain Clemson. They are below NU and all the others in revenue, yet they are in the mix every year. It's not all about money, Texas and TAMU have more than anybody yet...

There are issues in Lincoln, but it's not money.

I couldn't tell you the financial situation of any school really, but I know Texas A&M is filthy rich. If it was all about money -- they'd be the #1 team every year. Instead, they just lost to App State.

 

[Huskers4me]

Nebraska fans are thinking Nebraska is capable of something that they haven't ever done.

Who here is thinking this? Show your work and quit with the sweeping generalizations about our fan base. You proved my point thank you.

 

[huskers1217]