Geoff Collins out at Georgia Tech

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HALLELUJAH
 
Reports are he is done now.

It is so bad that the cash strapped GTAA is fronting the extra $3M not to wait till end of year and went ahead and pulled the trigger. Would cause more damage in the long run to wait another 3 months. TBH I can't see how anything related to him could cause more damage than he already has.

Deion and Monken named among leading candidates. More a hope than having a chance to land them at this point. Not sold on Deion yet but who knows? And is either even interested?

Go after Chadwell immediately. If no, then at least give Chris Petersen a call to at least say we tried.
 
Nebraska, Arizona St, Georgia Tech

I guess gone are the days when coaching changes happened after the last game of the season.


"Jamey Chadwell, Coastal Carolina coach: If Chadwell does not snag one of the top available jobs this cycle, it will be legitimate to ask whether he waited to long to make the jump. He's not Brent Venables, after all. His success with the Chanticleers is undeniable taking the program from 8-16 across his first two campaigns to 25-3 over his last three seasons."
 
Team was worse each year under Collins. We beat Western Carolina. We still may give Duke a good game, but I don't really see another win. Worst coach in GT history.

2022 - 4 games, 4 blocked punts. Numerous field goals missed. Incredibly bad clock management. Numerous weird "go for it" 4th and goal decisions (never scored).

Collins wanted to do well and be a good coach. He just never really knew how to do any of it.
 
Team was worse each year under Collins. We beat Western Carolina. We still may give Duke a good game, but I don't really see another win. Worst coach in GT history.
I know the feeling
 
Deion sounds like a disastrous pairing. Why the fuck would he even want it? GT has some strict academic requirements and last I checked (maybe its changed), the president isn't big on spending for athletics. Given Deion's personality, I would think he would prefer a school that basically operates as a pro team
 
Please, please hire Deon. My goodness, that would be fun to watch.
Stay the fuck away from Monken.

All kidding aside, you guys are really going to have a hard time finding an established coach. You are competing against UGA in-state, and AU, UA, UF, FSU, UTjr. Clemson, and USCjr for Georgia talent, not to mention all the other top teams. You have to overcome academics (although I am sure that can be done), you play in a small stadium that is most often taken over by the other team, your fan interest is at all time low, you have no current history of good let alone great, and I am not sure where you are on NIL, and you are in the ACC. You will have to find a first time G5 coach and pay them to come and give it a try.

If it were me, I'd hire a gimmick offense coach and hope we can go bowling in most years.
 
Deion sounds like a disastrous pairing. Why the fuck would he even want it? GT has some strict academic requirements and last I checked (maybe its changed), the president isn't big on spending for athletics. Given Deion's personality, I would think he would prefer a school that basically operates as a pro team
I don't want Deion. Sounds like a bad idea and will just make things worse. Whoever gets the nod has their work cut-out for them for sure, but there is good news! We are in the ACC and most teams here suck so with just a little bit of competence we should be able to start sneaking in the perennial winning seasons again. Will have a lot to do with who else is hired as coordinators.

The last time, the interview process was rushed and it seemed like some of the power donors had this guy picked out. There were better candidates imo. Need to do it properly this time.
 
Please, please hire Deon. My goodness, that would be fun to watch.
Stay the fuck away from Monken.

All kidding aside, you guys are really going to have a hard time finding an established coach. You are competing against UGA in-state, and AU, UA, UF, FSU, UTjr. Clemson, and USCjr for Georgia talent, not to mention all the other top teams. You have to overcome academics (although I am sure that can be done), you play in a small stadium that is most often taken over by the other team, your fan interest is at all time low, you have no current history of good let alone great, and I am not sure where you are on NIL, and you are in the ACC. You will have to find a first time G5 coach and pay them to come and give it a try.

If it were me, I'd hire a gimmick offense coach and hope we can go bowling in most years.
An established successful coach would never come here, more to do with the academics than anything else. And also the word is out that the Board doesn't give a single damn about athletics. It's an uphill climb.

We will have to go after a "lower tier" coach that has shown he knows what he is doing and looks ready for the next level. Something that was never apparent of Collins while he was at Temple. Let's do the OPPOSITE of that.
 
Nebraska, Arizona St, Georgia Tech

I guess gone are the days when coaching changes happened after the last game of the season.


"Jamey Chadwell, Coastal Carolina coach: If Chadwell does not snag one of the top available jobs this cycle, it will be legitimate to ask whether he waited to long to make the jump. He's not Brent Venables, after all. His success with the Chanticleers is undeniable taking the program from 8-16 across his first two campaigns to 25-3 over his last three seasons."
This is how it always should have been. I never understood just keeping a lame duck coach. It can have huge impacts on recruiting, especially now with the early signing period (which is why I think it's more common). But even if you fire a coach in late November, you likely don't find one until late December; and then they have basically a month to salvage a recruiting class. Fire the coach as soon as you know they're done, spend more time evaluating prospects to replace them and have that in place by the time the season is over.
 
Deion Sanders in Atlanta would be…interesting. Not sure it happens. I imagine the Coastal Carolina coach gets some consideration
 
Deion Sanders in Atlanta would be…interesting. Not sure it happens. I imagine the Coastal Carolina coach gets some consideration
CC coach is a huge target. Make no mistake, that's who most of us want.

Deion I think is more about the media speculation rather than any serious consideration. But he will interview if interested. But no thanks.

But more importantly, I would like to see a serious interview process this time over wtf ever that was the last time. It's bad when the Temple fans were LOLing and THANKING us after he was hired.
 
This is how it always should have been. I never understood just keeping a lame duck coach. It can have huge impacts on recruiting, especially now with the early signing period (which is why I think it's more common). But even if you fire a coach in late November, you likely don't find one until late December; and then they have basically a month to salvage a recruiting class. Fire the coach as soon as you know they're done, spend more time evaluating prospects to replace them and have that in place by the time the season is over.
I'm ok with us having waited till now. End of last season and we are all scrambling fkr the same guys as everyone else. This was early enough to sift through and make a good decision for once. We have to get this one right.
 
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About 70% of a team's chances to win games depends on their talent. A decent head coach is worth about 20% and all the other stuff is worth maybe 10%. Give Brent Venables Alabama's talent and he will win a NC. Give Nick Saban Oklahoma's talent and he'll struggle to win a conference championship. Good luck to GT in its search but it will eventually come back to how much talent is out there on the field if they want to see more success.
 
CC coach is a huge target. Make no mistake, that's who most of us want.

Deion I think is more about the media speculation rather than any serious consideration. But he will interview if interested. But no thanks.

But more importantly, I would like to see a serious interview process this time over wtf ever that was the last time. It's bad when the Temple fans were LOLing and THANKING us after he was hired.

what's the short list look like?
 
About 70% of a team's chances to win games depends on their talent. A decent head coach is worth about 20% and all the other stuff is worth maybe 10%. Give Brent Venables Alabama's talent and he will win a NC. Give Nick Saban Oklahoma's talent and he'll struggle to win a conference championship. Good luck to GT in its search but it will eventually come back to how much talent is out there on the field if they want to see more success.
Double edged. Because after a season or two, Saban has Oklahoma winning nattys regularly because he can get the recruits. Coaching is more than 20% here.

We lost 3 of our best players in the transfer portal. They didn't like the direction of the coaching/team so I think give the coaching a bump higher on the % scale now. Gibbs is running the ball at Alabama now so his loss is either on Collins, or he couldn't hack the academics. I wish him/them well.

And to be fair, we have talent, or at least enough to be ranked 30-40 at end of year with a winning season, it's the fucking ACC for christ sakes how hard can it be????? Collins was able to pull in better recruits than Johnson. He just didn't know what to do with them once they arrived.

Wake Forest. God love them unless they playing us I will always pull for them. If Wake fucking Forest can be as good as they are, then coaching is EVERYTHING when it comes to that coaches ability to pull in prospects and execute on their potential.
 
what's the short list look like?
Chadwell - YES!!

Hugh Freeze - also Yes.

Petersen - he won't come this far east but at least interview the guy so we can say we tried.

Monken - IDK, maybe perennial 6-7 wins?

Mullen - I don't like him but 7-8 wins annually.

Bill O'Brian - meh.

Deion - sounds like a gimmick, but he can't do worse than what we have. Seriously. Maybe for recruitment alone and leave most of it to OC and DC. I don't take this one as a serious contender at the moment.

George Godsey - former Tech QB with the Ravens. But is he ready for HC?
 
I think it would be good for GT to step down to FCS for a while.
 
We have to be careful here. Chadwell does a great job but so did Frost. We need to look deeper than just the wins and if the candidate can succeed at a Technical Institute when the BOT doesn't care one lick about atattics.

Paul Johnson never had their support nkr did he have the donor's support, just the fan's. BecUse of his offense and his gruffness they hamstrung him with low budget and payroll and wouldn't improve the facilities like he wanted. He won anyway with less than he ought to have been given. Then they break out the checkbook for Collins because he was more charismatic with a contemporary offense and he shits the bed at every turn/game.

But aside from all this, coaching candidates have to know that they are essentially being asked to win at football at a place like MIT, but in Georgia. Yes the talent is light years better, but they get sponged up by SEC teams, and most probably can't makenit at Tech academically anyway.
 
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