Guess the CFP Top 25

[7samurai13]

I would love making the Fiesta....I would not love facing a pissed of Cinci team that missed the playoffs looking for something to prove.

Don’t look now but Rutgers is bowling

 

[Deep Creek]

Still think it's not a foregone conclusion it goes to 12. 8 seems more likely.

You could be right.

"In fact, a fracture appeared publicly when the Sports Business Journal reported over the weekend the "alliance" conferences -- Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 -- favor an eight-team model."

Or maybe not.

"I think four has worked, is working and can continue to work," Sankey said before the Florida-Georgia game. "So, it's four or 12."

Are Stakeholders Hurting Playoff Expansion

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

You could be right.

"In fact, a fracture appeared publicly when the Sports Business Journal reported over the weekend the "alliance" conferences -- Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 -- favor an eight-team model."

Or maybe not.

"I think four has worked, is working and can continue to work," Sankey said before the Florida-Georgia game. "So, it's four or 12."

Are Stakeholders Hurting Playoff Expansion

Right, someone will have to give. If 3 of the 4 major conferences want something, that's how it will go.

 

[Voltaire]

Still think it's not a foregone conclusion it goes to 12. 8 seems more likely.

I think 12 is better than 4, but 8 is better than 12. Automatic bids for P5 Champions.

 

[Deep Creek]

Right, someone will have to give. If 3 of the 4 major conferences want something, that's how it will go.

No expert but according to this 3 of the 4 major conferences won't cut it.

"Forget a consensus, there may not even be a general agreement. Any expansion decision must be unanimous among the 11 FBS commissioners and Notre Dame."

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

I think 12 is better than 4, but 8 is better than 12. Automatic bids for P5 Champions.

Well...P4.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

No expert but according to this 3 of the 4 major conferences won't cut it.

"Forget a consensus, there may not even be a general agreement. Any expansion decision must be unanimous among the 11 FBS commissioners and Notre Dame."

It will depend on how strongly the positions are held. There is always the risk of a group of conferences breaking away.

 

[Deep Creek]

It will depend on how strongly the positions are held. There is always the risk of a group of conferences breaking away.

Or a group of teams forming the superconference(s). Which is the ultimate plan IMHO. Question is how many will be included?

The unanimous part is the CFP bylaws from what I read. Blow up the CFP and anything can happen.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Cincy is ranked above OU and WF.

Both OU and WF are undefeated and have wins over AT LEAST five P5 schools.
Cincy has beaten two P5 schools.

I honestly can't think of another reason you could offer that would substantiate being ranked above OU/WF.

Cincinnati also has a top 10 win.

 

[occupant]

Cincinnati also has a top 10 win.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

There is no way with the current conference/schedule set up. Including the CFP. I understand all the different arguments, I have probably made them myself at one time or another. Still and all, the parameters should be set at the beginning of the year. Win your conference, go to the playoffs. If you win your conference, you are a champion. Go to the tournament of Champions. the indies either join a conference or don't play for the championship.

12 team will resolve all that. But with 4, what we have is the best we are going to get IMO.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

You could be right.

"In fact, a fracture appeared publicly when the Sports Business Journal reported over the weekend the "alliance" conferences -- Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 -- favor an eight-team model."

Or maybe not.

"I think four has worked, is working and can continue to work," Sankey said before the Florida-Georgia game. "So, it's four or 12."

Are Stakeholders Hurting Playoff Expansion

Dodd's take on this is spot on ... the Alliance will get over their hurt feelings and quit being pussies at some point. That's the second link with a sub-title of: "Hurt feelings may have derailed business sense in CFP expansion talks" - hurt feelings heel when billions are at stake, or at least should be.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

No expert but according to this 3 of the 4 major conferences won't cut it.

"Forget a consensus, there may not even be a general agreement. Any expansion decision must be unanimous among the 11 FBS commissioners and Notre Dame."

This is correct. Absent the P5 or the SEC splitting off, it has to be unanimous. The SEC, ND, G5 and B12 are aligned on 12 for more access. The Alliance and their hurt feelings are holding this up. That too shall pass.

 

[ericd7633]

Cincy is ranked above OU and WF.

Both OU and WF are undefeated and have wins over AT LEAST five P5 schools.
Cincy has beaten two P5 schools.

I honestly can't think of another reason you could offer that would substantiate being ranked above OU/WF.

In respect to OU, yes the committee is valuing the ND win. As it pertains to the teams ahead of Cincy, I don't believe they are IMO.

OU would be ahead of Cincy, and Wake for that matter, if they had the high end win that Cincy does, or they looked better against their competition. The Cincy/OU defense/offense comparison is essentially a wash statistically when looking at the efficiency of each. However the Cincy offense has performed much better than the OU defense, and that's with taking schedule strength into account.

I think Cincy would be undefeated if they played the OU/Wake Forest schedule up to this point, I know that's something that's hypothetical, but when comparing undefeated teams you have to take into account the quality of team(based on play) if everything is equal. But I do think Cincy having the ND win, rightfully has them ahead of both for now. Once OU beats Baylor, it wouldn't surprise me to see them jump both Michigan and Cincy. They just don't have a signature win, despite playing alot more P5 teams.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

The rational on Cincy is that you couldn't put them in the top 4 and then drop them out if they don't lose. I mean you can, but it would cause more consternation than putting them at 6 did. Putting them at 6 allows for the situation where chaos ensues and the B1G beats each other up, OU collapses, and Ore loses 2 more games. You can then move them to 4 when they win out on their easier schedule.

Or, the committee is going to value a bunch of 2 loss teams that played tougher schedules. In that case Cincy's only path is a 12 team CFP but they will probably suck by then like UCF and Houston before them.

 

[CoalTrain]

OU with THAT brand at 8

May be a subtle hint from the committee that the remaining Big12 members need not apply once OU and Texas hit the road. Cant imagine any of those other brands getting treated better than OU.

 

[Red_Alert]

The rational on Cincy is that you couldn't put them in the top 4 and then drop them out if they don't lose. I mean you can, but it would cause more consternation than putting them at 6 did. Putting them at 6 allows for the situation where chaos ensues and the B1G beats each other up, OU collapses, and Ore loses 2 more games. You can then move them to 4 when they win out on their easier schedule.

Or, the committee is going to value a bunch of 2 loss teams that played tougher schedules. In that case Cincy's only path is a 12 team CFP but they will probably suck by then like UCF and Houston before them.

Yeah. I think Cincy will need a 2007 scenario to get into the CFP.

These were the last AP and Coaches polls before bowl games were played.

espn.com

Find the 2007 NCAAF rankings on ESPN, including the Coaches and AP poll for the top 25 NCAAF teams.

www.espn.com

 

[7samurai13]

OU with THAT brand at 8

May be a subtle hint from the committee that the remaining Big12 members need not apply once OU and Texas hit the road. Cant imagine any of those other brands getting treated better than OU.

OU has been struggling with most of it’s competition so far this season is its problem.

 

[outofyourmind]

A lot of these teams will be playing each other soon.
2 more weeks until..................................

 

[Cave_Johnson]

Because:

1. With 132 teams in 10 conferences, there is no way to "play their way in." You simply do not get enough inter-conference play to let Win Loss or conference champs be the only determinative factor. Comparing a 32 team NFL league that schedules for parity with CFB makes no sense.

2. By the by-laws, their job is to get the 4 best. Not the conf champs, not the ones with the best records, not the Cinderalla story ... the best 4 and that is inherently subjective.

This is why going to 12 will make this go away. No one gives a shit if no. 13 thinks they got screwed ... don't lose 2-3 games.

1. You just said that there is a way for teams to play their way in. Win your conference. That simple. You might have to balance schedules or get rid of divisions but it can be done. And that's waaaaay better than voting on it. Although at a certain point at-larges are necessary and then you have no choice but to have a selection committee.

2. That's the problem. These tards are choosing the best four using past years performance and program reputation. That's idiotic. Remove subjectivity as much as possible.

8 is probably all that's needed. 12? eh...whatever I don't care. I dislike the idea of the College Football Post Season Invitational Tournament with a bad committee more than I dislike the number of teams they let in.