Have to cancel our Christmas Eve party.

ill said:
they are

please stop believing that they aren't effective. It is incorrect. I am so tired to this discussion.

and how the fuck is it "virtue signalling"?
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What medical school did you attend?
 
ill said:
this is getting us no where

carry on
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Last bit. Until you can show me hard data that a higher % of shoppers in a given store catch COVID than another store, I see no basis for the argument.

Imagine, if I followed all the rules set out by you, I still catch COVID. Does that mean I can shift the responsibility on yo you?
 
batchaps4me said:
IMHO social media was not the problem at all, attempting to totally control a narrative full of unknowns from a position of absolute knowledge/wisdom/authority was.
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You’re right. Wasn’t thinking that direction this morning. That’s exactly it.

The core I’ve found issue with is that they felt it was best to communicate it to 334M people this way. They were trying to control the dissent of the messaging, and you just can’t.

Speak plain and speak fair. No matter how you do it there will be dissent to your message. But, at least the rest of us could be better informed.
 
ill said:
uh huh...
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This is from the CDC website instructions to laboratories that handle SARS. Cloth or surgical masks are not effective.

My BS is in microbiology. What's yours in ?

Acceptable methods of respiratory protection include: a properly fit-tested, NIOSH-approved filter respirator (N-95 or higher level) or PAPR equipped with HEPA filters. Accurate fit-testing is a key component of effective respirator use.1 Personnel who cannot wear fitted respirators because of facial hair or other fit limitations should wear loose-fitting hooded or helmeted PAPRs.
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batchaps4me said:
IMHO social media was not the problem at all, attempting to totally control a narrative full of unknowns from a position of absolute knowledge/wisdom/authority was.
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Correct answer.

It was amusing as fuck to see the screeching about how Florida and Texas were doing it all wrong, yet the most locked down shitholes like CA and NY were far worse.
 
ill said:
you don't need a medical degree to understand how a mask works...it's actually physics.
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You obviously understand very little.
 
TigerBait1971 said:
This is from the CDC website instructions to laboratories that handle SARS. Cloth or surgical masks are not effective.

My BS is in microbiology. What's yours in ?
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this tired argument?

N95 mask > regular mask > no mask.

repeat until it sinks in. Dont get confused with stuff you read on the internet.

Good luck. :thumb:
 
ill said:
you don't need a medical degree to understand how a mask works...it's actually physics.
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When it gets cold outside, put on your cloth mask and breath in and out. That "smoke" that you see is a stream of moisture droplets. The virus is in that stream of moisture droplets.
Cloth masks stop the virus as much as a chain link fence stops someone from peeing in your yard.
 
Kburjr said:
Hell, I treat the flu with caution. Social distancing is not a new thing. We are well past the endless quest for any scrap of info to support our views. Reason and logic are starting to creep into the public arena.
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This!!!

If anything on this thread it shows who is still in aggressive polar positions on this pandemic.

And it’s stupid at this point. We know much more fact about where we are on this thing. It’s neither a population control conspiracy nor a mass hysteria event.

You takes your chances as you see fit.
 
dbldwn711 said:
this tired argument?

N95 mask > regular mask > no mask.

repeat until it sinks in. Dont get confused with stuff you read on the internet.

Good luck. :thumb:
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Regular masks not worn properly causing people to touch their face over and over again is not better than no mask.
 
Kburjr said:
Last bit. Until you can show me hard data that a higher % of shoppers in a given store catch COVID than another store, I see no basis for the argument.

Imagine, if I followed all the rules set out by you, I still catch COVID. Does that mean I can shift the responsibility on yo you?
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well someone had to have given you COVID, so that means someone was around you with the virus in some regard.

if I have COVID and I get someone else sick, I am responsible for giving them COVID. Do you disagree with that?
 
TigerBait1971 said:
When it gets cold outside, put on your cloth mask and breath in and out. That "smoke" that you see is a stream of moisture droplets. The virus is in that stream of moisture droplets.
Cloth masks stop the virus as much as a chain link fence stops someone from peeing in your yard.
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when it’s cold it breath out. Then, put your mask on and breath out. See the difference in the distance and amount that “smoke” travels. That’s the point.
 
TigerBait1971 said:
When it gets cold outside, put on your cloth mask and breath in and out. That "smoke" that you see is a stream of moisture droplets. The virus is in that stream of moisture droplets.
Cloth masks stop the virus as much as a chain link fence stops someone from peeing in your yard.
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if I am wearing a mask outside in the cold and I breathe out, there is no plume of steam being projected towards anyone. It stays around you

 
dbldwn711 said:
this tired argument?

N95 mask > regular mask > no mask.

repeat until it sinks in. Dont get confused with stuff you read on the internet.

Good luck. :thumb:
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I'll base my argument on the classes I took like virology and pathogenic microbiology. It was 30 years ago, but...
 
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