How does your Team move up in the rankings this week ???

[fishinabarrel]

False. Ohio State beat a pre-season top 6~ish team, Michigan beat literally one of the worst teams in CFB. Ohio State dropped in the rankings. Michigan rose in the rankings. That might help them at the end of this year, maybe. But certainly won't do squat once the 12 team playoff is in place.

If you believe that Ohio State would have stayed 2 if they played and crushed Colorado State after the voters watched Georgia completely dismantle the #11 team in the nation then I can't help you

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Bull crap there is zero benefit to playing a tough team early. First off, it is very easy to recover from an early season loss against a good team. Second, they make a ton of money. Third they expose weaknesses in your team that UCONN or Arkansas State simply can't, giving your coaches time to adjust before conference play.

Had Ohio State not played Va Tech in 2014 they might not have realized they were going to struggle against a Bear defensive set until it was too late. ND this year showed how much our young receivers would struggle finding a soft spot in a zone. Oregon last year exposed a weak run defense. Had we had a decent coordinator and some more experience in the LB position they probably could have made adjustments before Michigan exposed it again.

Being happy your team isnt playing any P5 teams whole playing three atrocious G5 teams is kinda sad

I have zero issue with whoever people schedule in OOC. The negatives outweigh the positives though, IMO, in scheduling big OOC games early in the season. Can you come back from a loss? Absolutely. But when you put two top teams early in the season, you can end up with someone like Ngjiba-Smith getting hurt after a big hit. Thankfully for OSU it is only 1-2 games he will miss, but if he took him out for the year -- OSU would be a completely different team. It is not to say it can't happen against lesser teams, but it much less likely.

Look at Oregon right now -- Their season is over. They have no shot to get into the CFP. It doesn't matter if they go undefeated the rest of the way. I'd rather my team use the 1st few games of the year to get some experience and used to playing in front of huge crowds and acclimated to the speed of the game.

As far as exposing weaknesses on their team -- if the coaching staff hasn't figured out the weaknesses of their team BEFORE the season starts -- there are much bigger issues that no OOC opponent is going to solve.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

If you believe that Ohio State would have stayed 2 if they played and crushed Colorado State after the voters watched Georgia completely dismantle the #11 team in the nation then I can't help you

It had as much to do with OSU struggling with ND, as it did with Georgia dismantling Oregon.

Let's be honest -- OSU won, but nothing about that game should bring loads of confidence to OSU fans, because Bama and Georgia would have absolutely destroyed Notre Dame and their anemic offense.

 

[fishinabarrel]

It had as much to do with OSU struggling with ND, as it did with Georgia dismantling Oregon.

Let's be honest -- OSU won, but nothing about that game should bring loads of confidence to OSU fans, because Bama and Georgia would have absolutely destroyed Notre Dame and their anemic offense.

But Ohio State playing some crap team and blowing them out would not have kept them at 2. Only way they would have stayed at 2 would be doing to ND what Georgia did to Oregon

 

[fishinabarrel]

I have zero issue with whoever people schedule in OOC. The negatives outweigh the positives though, IMO, in scheduling big OOC games early in the season. Can you come back from a loss? Absolutely. But when you put two top teams early in the season, you can end up with someone like Ngjiba-Smith getting hurt after a big hit. Thankfully for OSU it is only 1-2 games he will miss, but if he took him out for the year -- OSU would be a completely different team. It is not to say it can't happen against lesser teams, but it much less likely.

Look at Oregon right now -- Their season is over. They have no shot to get into the CFP. It doesn't matter if they go undefeated the rest of the way. I'd rather my team use the 1st few games of the year to get some experience and used to playing in front of huge crowds and acclimated to the speed of the game.

As far as exposing weaknesses on their team -- if the coaching staff hasn't figured out the weaknesses of their team BEFORE the season starts -- there are much bigger issues that no OOC opponent is going to solve.

It remains to be seen but I highly doubt that Oregon team had a chance for the playoffs anyway.

And I don't care how much you practice, real game speed is going to reveal more things to a.coaching staff. Literally anyone will tell you this

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

It remains to be seen but I highly doubt that Oregon team had a chance for the playoffs anyway.

And I don't care how much you practice, real game speed is going to reveal more things to a.coaching staff. Literally anyone will tell you this

There isn't a remains to be seen -- the only team in the PAC with a chance at the CFP now is USC. Oregon was embarrassed by Georgia -- NO CHANCE they put them in a 2nd game against Georgia or against a team who beat Georgia. Add in Utah losing to Florida and the PAC is finished after week 1, unless USC goes undefeated.

And I agree about players getting used to real game speed, but you can achieve the same thing simply playing anyone other than your team. In reality -- the team you see in week 1 is going to look light years different by the end of the season. The first time starters will be different players, the first year players will be different players.

As far as revealing issues for a team -- again, if a coaching staff isn't completely aware of every issue the team is going to have before the first game, they aren't a very good coaching staff.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

But Ohio State playing some crap team and blowing them out would not have kept them at 2. Only way they would have stayed at 2 would be doing to ND what Georgia did to Oregon

It remains to be seen -- if you utterly dominated a team -- it would have given them less reason to move you down.

 

[fishinabarrel]

There isn't a remains to be seen -- the only team in the PAC with a chance at the CFP now is USC. Oregon was embarrassed by Georgia -- NO CHANCE they put them in a 2nd game against Georgia or against a team who beat Georgia. Add in Utah losing to Florida and the PAC is finished after week 1, unless USC goes undefeated.

And I agree about players getting used to real game speed, but you can achieve the same thing simply playing anyone other than your team. In reality -- the team you see in week 1 is going to look light years different by the end of the season. The first time starters will be different players, the first year players will be different players.

As far as revealing issues for a team -- again, if a coaching staff isn't completely aware of every issue the team is going to have before the first game, they aren't a very good coaching staff.

It remains to be seen if Georgia ended Oregon's chances or if they would have ended them themselves down the line anyway. I am in agreement with you that their chances are practically zero now

And no, not any team is going to expose a weakness on your team. A better team has a much higher chance of doing that.

You're right, every good coaching staff knows all of their teams problems before the season and sets their schemes and never changes them. Even great coaches can get out coached sometimes. Maybe they make in game adjustments and it's fine or maybe they lose and have to figure how to stop whatever was exposed for future games.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

It remains to be seen if Georgia ended Oregon's chances or if they would have ended them themselves down the line anyway. I am in agreement with you that their chances are practically zero now

And no, not any team is going to expose a weakness on your team. A better team has a much higher chance of doing that.

You're right, every good coaching staff knows all of their teams problems before the season and sets their schemes and never changes them. Even great coaches can get out coached sometimes. Maybe they make in game adjustments and it's fine or maybe they lose and have to figure how to stop whatever was exposed for future games.

Here is the issue on the remains to be seen. The Oregon players know, just like everyone else, that their season is essentially over now in regards to the CFP. So do you think they are going to put in extra work, push themselves harder? Or are they simply going to do what is asked of them?

I look at OOC like this, especially since they have the 4 game keep your redshirt rule now. The OOC games are basically games to get your feet wet -- give some players experience before league games start. See who is ready and who isn't.

Big time OOC games are great for fans, but the negatives outweigh the benefits for teams. I think you will see a lot of teams removing those big games in the future, contrary to many beliefs.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Here is the issue on the remains to be seen. The Oregon players know, just like everyone else, that their season is essentially over now in regards to the CFP. So do you think they are going to put in extra work, push themselves harder? Or are they simply going to do what is asked of them?

I look at OOC like this, especially since they have the 4 game keep your redshirt rule now. The OOC games are basically games to get your feet wet -- give some players experience before league games start. See who is ready and who isn't.

Big time OOC games are great for fans, but the negatives outweigh the benefits for teams. I think you will see a lot of teams removing those big games in the future, contrary to many beliefs.

You won way too many participation trophies as a kid.

A. Apparently you believe the first time you lose or encounter a bump in the road you give up. High level athletes do not do this. Hell, I coached a fifth grade girls basketball team that didn't do this.

B. You are happy about your team scheduling nothing but inferior opponents that have no chance for ALL of their OOC games.

Says a lot

 

[osubuckeye89]

You won way too many participation trophies as a kid.

A. Apparently you believe the first time you lose or encounter a bump in the road you give up. High level athletes do not do this. Hell, I coached a fifth grade girls basketball team that didn't do this.

B. You are happy about your team scheduling nothing but inferior opponents that have no chance for ALL of their OOC games.

Says a lot

Yea real athletes don't just mail it for the rest of the season because they lost 1 game (especially the 1st game) that logic always cracks me up. Usually fans use it as a blanket excuse for why they suck that season. I'm sure OD will be saying 'THEY GAVE UP BECAUSE OF THAT FIRST ROAD GAME THEY MADE THEM PLAY!" if Oregon goes like 7-5. Lol.

 

[Deep Creek]

I have zero issue with whoever people schedule in OOC. The negatives outweigh the positives though, IMO, in scheduling big OOC games early in the season. Can you come back from a loss? Absolutely. But when you put two top teams early in the season, you can end up with someone like Ngjiba-Smith getting hurt after a big hit. Thankfully for OSU it is only 1-2 games he will miss, but if he took him out for the year -- OSU would be a completely different team. It is not to say it can't happen against lesser teams, but it much less likely.

Look at Oregon right now -- Their season is over. They have no shot to get into the CFP. It doesn't matter if they go undefeated the rest of the way. I'd rather my team use the 1st few games of the year to get some experience and used to playing in front of huge crowds and acclimated to the speed of the game.

As far as exposing weaknesses on their team -- if the coaching staff hasn't figured out the weaknesses of their team BEFORE the season starts -- there are much bigger issues that no OOC opponent is going to solve.

ADs want as many home games as they can get. By doing so they remove the possibility of playing most P5 teams because other p5 teams are looking for the same. So the only way to get more home games is not playing any home and home series or neutral site games. As long as fans are willing to pay to watch these shit shows games, why should ADs change their scheduling philosophy?

I'm going out on a limb here....but not far. Let's use Michigan as an example since we are beating them up for their OOC schedule.

Looking at it from a player's perspective, I'd bet the farm Michigan players would have much rather had an opportunity to play USC in the Coliseum last Saturday than Colorado State at home. And get USC to come to Ann Arbor next year instead of a team similar to Colorado State. And vice versa. I'd bet the ranch USC players would have preferred playing in Ann Arbor last Saturday instead of hosting Rice. And have Michigan come to the Coliseum next year. But, who cares what players would prefer?

Now, I probably just lost the farm AND the ranch.

 

[osubuckeye89]

It had as much to do with OSU struggling with ND, as it did with Georgia dismantling Oregon.

Let's be honest -- OSU won, but nothing about that game should bring loads of confidence to OSU fans, because Bama and Georgia would have absolutely destroyed Notre Dame and their anemic offense.

You're kidding me.

Defense looked a lot better and with our track record in big home OOC games in recent memory......yea. It wasnt the greatest win ever but it's a pretty good start.

Now for Michigan fans. They seem to have WAY too much confidence because of what they did to a god awful Colorado state team who went 3-9 last year and is going through a complete overhaul at all levels. Hawaii this week (they may be the worst FBS team from their first 2 games) will only amplify that too.

 

[CoalTrain]

Tennessee beats a ranked and defending ACC champ Pitt at their place then I see no reason whatsoever why UT shouldn’t be a top 10 team next week.

 

[Kachina]

We got 1 vote in the AP poll for the top 25 spot.

Beating Mississippi State, who narrowly missed out of the top 25, will certainly get us even close to being ranked if not definitely ranked.

 

[OlyDuck]

Oklahoma has virtually zero shot.

Alabama crushes Texas
Everybody else plays nobody State
A&M is the only one......yep.....Appalachian State

I'm a huge Yosef fan now

That's all I got, my only hope
What are the chances.

By the way, Oklahoma plays Kent State this Saturday

Predictions ??

Oregon is the top vote getter outside the AP top 25 so in thoery they need to win and have a team ahead of them lose. Houston plays Texas Tech, Tenn has Pitt, BYU has Baylor and Kentucky has Florida.
so its possible

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

You won way too many participation trophies as a kid.

A. Apparently you believe the first time you lose or encounter a bump in the road you give up. High level athletes do not do this. Hell, I coached a fifth grade girls basketball team that didn't do this.

B. You are happy about your team scheduling nothing but inferior opponents that have no chance for ALL of their OOC games.

Says a lot

I grew up when you only got trophies if you won.

I also have hung out with a ton of D1 football players from multiple schools around Michigan and I was a scholarship athlete in college too.

From my experience, almost every one of these athletes are 110% thru summer work out programs, strength and conditioning, camp, etc. When the season starts -- they are all in, skipping parties, not drinking, etc. Once they lose or they aren't playing for anything -- the drinking picks up, they start going to parties, they start going to bars (all things i've done with players at Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Michigan State)

It isn't that they "give up" -- It is just that they aren't all in anymore. Hell -- the Eastern Michigan guys, many of their starters were more worried about planning the after party than they were about the games.


As far as the OOC -- I couldn't care less who schedules who in OOC. The B1G SOS being in the East division -- they will have a top 25 schedule regardless.
The schedule this year and next are anomalies for UM. We have Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Washington as OOC opponents in the upcoming years.

 

[rmilia1]

I think for Iowa my thought is we should try to score a touchdown

Preferably on offense but really ill settle for special teams or defense

If we can do that then I'll start worrying about other stuff

 

[KTg8trgrl]

Oklahoma has virtually zero shot.

Alabama crushes Texas
Everybody else plays nobody State
A&M is the only one......yep.....Appalachian State

I'm a huge Yosef fan now

That's all I got, my only hope
What are the chances.

By the way, Oklahoma plays Kent State this Saturday

Predictions ??

Win.

 

[iowajerms]

By winning while other teams lose.