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But I doubt any of those guys could throw it farther than Jamarcus Russell. Mahomes is right there too. Both threw it 65-70 from their knees.
 
Shanemansj13 said:
But I doubt any of those guys could throw it farther than Jamarcus Russell. Mahomes is right there too. Both threw it 65-70 from their knees.
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I remember a friend of mine was convinced this was real....

 
Shanemansj13 said:
I've seen Jarvis Landry throw it 60 yards lol

Baker can probably throw it farther than that also, along with the guys you named.
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Jamarcus Russell threw the ball 70 yards from his knees. And wanting the Raiders to select Calvin Johnson over Jamarcus Russell is probably the only time I’ve ever agreed with a Kiffin.
 
citysushi said:
I feel like at the rate this argument is going, Chuck Bednarik should be considered the GOAT.
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Only one player has ever won a Heisman, National Championship, Super Bowl, Super Boel MVP and NFL MVP. The real GOAT Marcus Allen. Now I’m going to get back to work before Nos hits me with a shovel lolz
 
Shanemansj13 said:
I've seen Jarvis Landry throw it 60 yards lol

Baker can probably throw it farther than that also, along with the guys you named.
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Something I always enjoy watching is my son Erik who plays in college and a kid that he went to HS with would go up to the football field and long toss. I would sit in the stands and watch and by the end, they would both be throwing from one end zone to the other on a line. One throws 94 the other 98. Most scouts think velo and long toss numbers directly correlate. I remember Elway being a big-time baseball prospect, mid 90s I believe.
Doug Williams who QB'd the Redskins to the Super Bowl, allegedly threw the ball 100 yards while at a practice at Gambling, though there is no video to back that up
 
UK Cowboy said:
Something I always enjoy watching is my son Erik who plays in college and a kid that he went to HS with would go up to the football field and long toss. I would sit in the stands and watch and by the end, they would both be throwing from one end zone to the other on a line. One throws 94 the other 98. Most scouts think velo and long toss numbers directly correlate. I remember Elway being a big-time baseball prospect, mid 90s I believe.
Doug Williams who QB'd the Redskins to the Super Bowl, allegedly threw the ball 100 yards while at a practice at Gambling, though there is no video to back that up
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I heard Bert Jones did the same
 
I was always impressed with Randall Cunningham, no idea if he could throw it 90 or not but his throwing motion was crazy, it looked like he was throwing a 10 yard pass and the ball goes 60.
 
Nosferatu said:
I was always impressed with Randall Cunningham, no idea if he could throw it 90 or not but his throwing motion was crazy, it looked like he was throwing a 10 yard pass and the ball goes 60.
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Extremely under rated QB imo. Didn’t have the best WR’s with the Eagles and they loved running him. Amazing arm very talented QB who knows what he could have done if he wasn’t locked in that eagles offense so many years. I remember watching him dodge Bruce Smith in the end zone and complete a 90+ yard TD pass to Fred Barnett.
 
Nosferatu said:
I was always impressed with Randall Cunningham, no idea if he could throw it 90 or not but his throwing motion was crazy, it looked like he was throwing a 10 yard pass and the ball goes 60.
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Jeff George too! Some guys just make it look easy
 
I did a statistical analysis a while back and Brady was 4th. Granted this was nearly 5 years ago and I've lost the files (really pissed at myself). I've been kicking around tweeking it a little bit (adjusting for strength of opponent, weighing playoffs vs. regular season and other factors), but haven't come up with anything I like (or found the time). At the time it looked like this (as far as I can remember:

1. Montana
2. Young
3. Staubach
4. Brady
8. Manning

I will admit that Brady has been great for a long time and has accomplished something no other QB has, or probably will accomplish.
 
Centerfield17 said:
I did a statistical analysis a while back and Brady was 4th. Granted this was nearly 5 years ago and I've lost the files (really pissed at myself). I've been kicking around tweeking it a little bit (adjusting for strength of opponent, weighing playoffs vs. regular season and other factors), but haven't come up with anything I like (or found the time). At the time it looked like this (as far as I can remember:

1. Montana
2. Young
3. Staubach
4. Brady
8. Manning

I will admit that Brady has been great for a long time and has accomplished something no other QB has, or probably will accomplish.
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OK...so if this is a pro rated statistical analysis(assuming, since Staubach is in there, and I'm a huge fan), then you get a automatic bogie. If you pro rate stats to account for the changes in the game,m there's no way that anyone, statistically, could top Marino, let alone 5 guys. The numbers he put up in the era he played in would be like someone throwing for 6500 yards and 60 TD's today...
 
UK Cowboy said:
OK...so if this is a pro rated statistical analysis(assuming, since Staubach is in there, and I'm a huge fan), then you get a automatic bogie. If you pro rate stats to account for the changes in the game,m there's no way that anyone, statistically, could top Marino, let alone 5 guys. The numbers he put up in the era he played in would be like someone throwing for 6500 yards and 60 TD's today...
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So, I had a huge long retort, but realized I posted about it a while back (2014) and put the whole list up - though still didn't really put in the formula. Here's how the list panned out

107. David Carr
106. Mike Phipps
105. Kordell Stewart
104. Gus Frerotte
103. Jeff Blake
102. Brian Griese
101. Bob Berry
100. Trent Dilfer
99. Bill Munson
98. Rodney Peete
97. Archie Manning
96. Jim Zorn
95. Steve Grogan
94. Jay Schroeder
93. Bill Nelsen
92. Richard Todd
91. Norm Snead
90. Jon Kitna
89. Jack Kemp
88. Greg Landry
87. Chris Miller
86. Steve Beuerlein
85. Michael Vick
84. Charley Johnson
83. Mark Rypien
82. Babe Parilli
81. Doug Williams
80. Jim McMahon
79. Bobby Hebert
78. Dan Pastorini
77. Chris Chandler
76. Tommy Kramer
75. Jim Harbaugh
74. Chad Pennington
73. Jake Delhomme
72. Jeff Hostetler
71. Joe Namath
70. Lynn Dickey
69. Carson Palmer
68. John Hadl
67. Jake Plummer
66. Matt Schaub
65. Joe Ferguson
64. Craig Morton
63. Neil O'Donnell
62. Steve DeBerg
61. Earl Morrall
60. Frank Ryan
59. Brian Sipe
58. Jim Everett
57. Kerry Collins
56. Ken O'Brien
55. Jeff George
54. Jim Plunkett
53. Drew Bledsoe
52. Jim Hart
51. Brad Johnson
50. Trent Green
49. Steve McNair
48. Ron Jaworski
47. Dante Culpepper
46. Mark Brunell
45. Bert Jones
44. Phil Simms
43. Steve Bartkowski
42. Danny White
41. Sonny Jurgensen
40. Vinny Testeverde
39. Dave Kreig
38. Jeff Garcia
37. Bernie Kosar
36. Billy Kilmer
35. Boomer Esiason
34. Matt Hasselbeck
33. Eli Manning
32. Daryle Lamonica
31. John Brodie
30. Rich Gannon
29. Randall Cunningham
28. Roman Gabriel
27. Bob Griese
26. Tony Romo
25. Donovan McNabb
24. Troy Aikman
23. Len Dawson
22. Ben Roethlisberger
21. Philip Rivers
20. Jim Kelly
19. Bart Starr
18. Joe Theismann
17. Terry Bradshaw
16. Kurt Warner
15. Dan Fouts
14. John Elway
13. Ken Anderson
12. Steve Young
11. Ken Stabler
10. Warren Moon
9. Brett Favre
8. Fran Tarkenton
7. Johnny Unitas
6. Roger Staubach
5. Dan Marino
4. Drew Brees
3. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
1. Joe Montana
 
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