In Your Opinion, What Are The Ingredients of an "Eye Test"?

Wild Turkey said:
1. Record
2. Health of key players
3. How did they win (point spread and did weird stuff happen)
4. SOS (are they battle-tested)
5. Who has the best coaches
6. Who has the home field (if a neutral field who will have the biggest crowd)
7. Momentum (does the team believe in themselves, do they have "magic")
8. Weather and is there an advantage there
9. Timezone
10. Who did Corso pick (go the opposite direction)

The above is the Wild Turkey 10 step game analysis criteria for successful picking.
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You left out "what do you read in the sheep's entrails"
 
A perfect example of a team you can't get a read on is Florida.

You don't know who is going to be QB
You have zero idea what they are going to do on defense
Weird crap always happens in their games because they are undisciplined
At this point has the team quit on their coach?

Nothing this team does would surprise me on Sat. I think Georgia is beatable and if we get the gators that took Alabama to the very end they could beat Georgia. If we get the gators that gave up 287 yards on the ground to LSU then Georgia will easily cover. Will Mullen start AR15 or will stick with Emory? If AR15 plays will he make freshman mistakes and make things worse? Does AR15 know the offense or just designed plays for him? It's too much to figure out.
 
Red_Alert said:
Uniforms?
Britney Spears?
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College Football GIF by ESPN
 
7samurai13 said:
1,3,4,2
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This.

First it matters if you are winning your games. Doesn't matter if you are the best 5 loss team in the country or the 85 Bears if you lose all your games. Secondly, it matters who you are playing, then how bad did you beat them. Close games against weaker competition hurts. Then lastly, how well are those around you doing, this doesn't have a direct bearing of your team, but is more of an add-on to the SOS marker, but it helps to be in a position for conference titles.
 
Hu War Yu said:
Well, there's dominating the Big Ten, and there's dominating the MAC. Surely you would agree that one of those is more impressive than the other, even though you would have to employ some subjectivity
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Yes. That’s something else. That’s not the question asked.
If all things aren’t equal otherwise, of course, you look at those things.

but if things are relatively equal otherwise, dominating is better than scratching out a win.
 
OlyDuck said:
im not having issues with the concept just the reasoning
so if a team wins every game 10-7 but is still undefeated and is the only undefeated team but another team won every game by 30 but lost 1 game by 3 you would want the 1 loss team because they looked more dominant?
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Maybe. I’d have to look at the loss etc.
but now you’re adding an extra inequality.

before you were questioning the concept. I’m glad you are over your duncery. You may take off the pointy hat and get off the stool in the corner.
 
OlyDuck said:
why is margin of victory a factor?
an undefeated team that wins all games by 50 and an undefeated team that wins all games by 7 are both still undefeated
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Right.

But, if we're talking about ranking one ahead of the other (or one getting into the playoff and the other being left out) that's when you look for eye test stuff for justification. SOS can be completely subjective. Margin of victory can be a wildly inaccurate evaluation tool. To me, a very high level evaluation of performance is as good or better than those 2 things people likes to use.

Did the favored team perform about as you might expect (win comfortably vs a weak team or grind out a quality win vs a good team)? I have a lot more respect for teams who consistently perform at or above expectations.
 
ELTEXAN said:
Yes. That’s something else. That’s not the question asked.
If all things aren’t equal otherwise, of course, you look at those things.

but if things are relatively equal otherwise, dominating is better than scratching out a win.
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I didn't get the sense that we were talking about "other things being equal," though. This is what you said:

ELTEXAN said:
More points is better than less. Dominating is better than barely winning. This isn’t complicated.
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Taken at face value, that statement is incorrect.

All I'm about in this thread, is that EVERYTHING is subjective, including SOS, including MOV. All we have is records, and "eye tests."
 
Hu War Yu said:
I didn't get the sense that we were talking about "other things being equal," though. This is what you said:



Taken at face value, that statement is incorrect.

All I'm about in this thread, is that EVERYTHING is subjective, including SOS, including MOV. All we have is records, and "eye tests."
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Ummmm. Statements in general on any subject default to all things being equal otherwise. You’re going to feign ignorance on this now, I suppose.
It’s very simple.
If Team A beats Team B by 3 points tonight… it’s not as good/worthy/etc as Team A beating Team B by 30 tonight.

this isn’t a 7th grade Lincoln Douglas debate.
Keep digging your hole, though. Good luck.

ME: “It’s better not to get punched in the face than to get punched in the face.”
YOU: “But what if you’re a bank robber and you’re about to machine gun a lobby full of bank employees? Isn’t it better to get you punched in the face and take away your gun?!? Hahah. I got you!”

This is how dumb you sound
 
ELTEXAN said:
Ummmm. Statements in general on any subject default to all things being equal otherwise. You’re going to feign ignorance on this now, I suppose.
It’s very simple.
If Team A beats Team B by 3 points tonight… it’s not as good/worthy/etc as Team A beating Team B by 30 tonight.
Keep digging your hole, though. Good luck.
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LOL.

What's funny is that you're actually too dense to realize we're both arguing the same point.
 
Hu War Yu said:
LOL.

What's funny is that you're actually too dense to realize we're both arguing the same point.
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Wrong. I’m stating that winning by more points is better. That’s the statement I replied to. That’s the only point I’m making.
this dunce is trying to backtrack and use sophism to escape looking like a dunce for arguing against that
 
I think 3 & 4 encompasses it. I don’t consider record a part of that because the record should be the first consideration. Eye test second.

If you’re barely above .500 it doesn’t matter if you look good doing it.

your margin of victory should be gauged against your SOS.

By way of example despite ND’s 6-1 record, they e looked bad and barely beaten some bad teams. If Toledo’s players were smarter they’d go to a knee and kick a last second FG to beat ND. They simply do not pass the eye test right now. They’ve played bad against bad competition.
 
How the playoff committee operates:

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