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That was more about the league fucking over the Raiders than blowing Brady
Is Tom Brady the GOAT or just a QB in a great system?
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Every QB that has ever achieved long term success with one team/coach is a system QB................. except for Brady.
Montana won 4 SB's with the 49ers while being carried by one of the greatest coaches in NFL history and a great defense. System QB
Bradshaw won 4 SB's playing for the same coach/team while being carried by his roided up defense. He ran a high school offense because he couldn't read a defense if it was written in crayon. System QB
The great Roger Staubach played his entire career for one coach in the same SYSTEM.
Dan Marino......................................... haha, never mind, I just wanted to laugh at that choking pud.
Montana won 4 SB's with the 49ers while being carried by one of the greatest coaches in NFL history and a great defense. System QB
Bradshaw won 4 SB's playing for the same coach/team while being carried by his roided up defense. He ran a high school offense because he couldn't read a defense if it was written in crayon. System QB
The great Roger Staubach played his entire career for one coach in the same SYSTEM.
Dan Marino......................................... haha, never mind, I just wanted to laugh at that choking pud.
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...not to mention the opposing coach making the worst playcall in the history of organized American sports.
Like I said on tHoop, had that not happened, Brady was going to retire in complete humiliation. He even admitted it.
That one play call put $100M in his pocket.
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Huh. Why didn't you mention Peyton Manning?
Oh. Forgot. He took two teams to the Super Bowl.
And how DARE you mention Brady amongst some of the all-time greats! This is an outrage!
I forgot about Captain one and done. He was such a playoff choker that they should scrub his name from the history books.
For your amusement I'll review his career. He played for the same coach for 80% of his career on a team loaded with HOF offensive talent and a damn good defense yet he manage one measly SB win. He racked up a mountain of meaningless stats against the weakest division in the NFL and did so by routinely throwing 20 passes in the 4th quarter when his team was already up by 24 points.
Then he got hooked on HGH and numerous other PED's, and still managed to throw the ball like a girl and moved on to a team with an all time defense and was carried, like a lumpy sack of potatoes to a 2nd SB win.
Now he's reduce to selling the shittiest pizza on planet earth.
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Carried to 4 SBs by his defense.
No better as a QB than his peers.
Stick Rodgers, Manning, Brees on the Pats and they wouldn’t miss a beat
And pass plays by opposing teams on the 1 yard line.
There is no definitive QB GOAT.
There are at least 10 guys legitimately in the discussion and how someone ranks them is determined by one's own weight of one's own criteria.
There are at least 10 guys legitimately in the discussion and how someone ranks them is determined by one's own weight of one's own criteria.
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Tom Brady cheated.
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If you are in a fantasy draft right now do you take Cam or Brady???
There was a time when New England's punter was a better QB then Tom Brady.
Whatever happened to the great Tom Tupa?
Whatever happened to the great Tom Tupa?
more roster turnover at key positions (OL, WR, RB) than any other QB in NFL history to play at least 15 years according to the elias sports bureau.
the stat takes into account journeymen and has a GS min.
then theres this stuff:
the stat takes into account journeymen and has a GS min.
then theres this stuff:
Regular Season: 541 TDs to 77 different targets
- Rob Gronkowski (78)
- Randy Moss (39)
- Julian Edelman (36)
- Wes Welker (34)
- James White (24)
- Deion Branch (24)
- Aaron Hernandez (18)
- Daniel Graham (17)
- Benjamin Watson (17)
- David Patten (16)
- Troy Brown (15)
- Christian Fauria (13)
- David Givens (12)
- Chris Hogan (11)
- Danny Amendola (10)
- Kevin Faulk (10)
- Mike Vrabel (8)
- Phillip Dorsett (7)
- Brandin Cooks (7)
- Brandon LaFell (7)
- Shane Vereen (7)
- Martellus Bennett (6)
- Jabar Gaffney (6)
- Tim Wright (6)
- Dion Lewis (5)
- Josh Gordon (4)
- Reche Caldwell (4)
- Scott Chandler (4)
- Aaron Dobson (4)
- Bethel Johnson (4)
- Brandon Lloyd (4)
- Malcolm Mitchell (4)
- Donte' Stallworth (4)
- Kenbrell Thompkins (4)
- Danny Woodhead (4)
- Rex Burkhead (4)
- Doug Gabriel (3)
- Chad Jackson (3)
- Antowain Smith (3)
- Jermaine Wiggins (3)
- Brandon Bolden (3)
- N'Keal Harry (2)
- Sam Aiken (2)
- Kyle Brady (2)
- Chris Baker (2)
- Alge Crumpler (2)
- Corey Dillon (2)
- Tim Dwight (2)
- Marc Edwards (2)
- Donald Hayes (2)
- Keshawn Martin (2)
- Cordarrelle Patterson (2)
- Brandon Tate (2)
- Dwayne Allen (1)
- Tom Ashworth (1)
- LaGarrette Blount (1)
- Matt Lengel (1)
- Michael Floyd (1)
- Larry Centers (1)
- Cam Cleeland (1)
- Andre' Davis (1)
- Heath Evans (1)
- Terry Glenn (1)
- Michael Hoomanawanui (1)
- Charles Johnson (1)
- Laurence Maroney (1)
- Mathew Mulligan (1)
- Chad Ochocinco (1)
- Patrick Pass (1)
- David Thomas (1)
- Brian Tyms (1)
- Dedric Ward (1)
- Matt LaCosse (1)
- Ryan Izzo (1)
- Elandon Roberts (1)
- Antonio Brown (1)
- Mohamed Sanu (1)
Postseason: 73 TDs to 28 different targets
- Rob Gronkowski (12)
- David Givens (7)
- Danny Amendola (5)
- Julian Edelman (5)
- Deion Branch (4)
- Chris Hogan (4)
- Wes Welker (4)
- Jabar Gaffney (3)
- Benjamin Watson (3)
- James White (3)
- Aaron Hernandez (2)
- Brandon LaFell (2)
- Shane Vereen (2)
- Mike Vrabel (2)
- Phillip Dorsett (2)
- Troy Brown (1)
- Reche Caldwell (1)
- Alge Crumpler (1)
- James Develin (1)
- Kevin Faulk (1)
- Daniel Graham (1)
- Bethel Johnson (1)
- Brandon Lloyd (1)
- Randy Moss (1)
- David Patten (1)
- Nate Solder (1)
- Dion Lewis (1)
- Danny Woodhead (1)
Yeah, there is. Sorry that you don't like it, but in the mortal words of the GOAT's coach, Bill Belichik; "it is what it is".
Thommy Bundchen isnt even the GOAT in his own family.
Sorry you don't like it, but no there's not. There are a group of guys in GOAT discussion and Brady is in that group. That's where it ends.
He may be YOUR GOAT, but he's not THE GOAT because there isn't one.