It is Mid-October and there are over 10 teams still in serious contention for the Title

Illustrious Potentate said:
They’re probably back to their normal 8 win selves this year. If they beat Tennessee, I could see em getting 10 wins again depending on bowl matchup. Surprised Stoops is still there TBH. Kentucky and Vandy were basically the same thing prior to Stoops my entire life outside of a couple seasons
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Yeah I was wondering the same thing after 2018 when they hit 10 games, then I was REALLY wondering this after last year. They haven't been giant-killers yet but he's done a great job for a school like UK. If they upset Tenn, he needs to start listening. That should definitely get him some clout with some of the open spots.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Sounds like Longhorns as well :pound: . What is with the Texas teams?

Granted, they had good years with Johnny Manziel and the 2020 season but you are correct, they haven't lived up to hype with Jimbo Fisher and the recruiting classes.

However, Notre Dame seems to do this a lot as well. Miami is another one that gets ranked high every preseason but tends to disappear. I think you are making more of an argument for why we shouldn't rank teams just because of their recruiting rankings.
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Bottom line is different. Wins and losses don't matter. It is all about how much money is generated/spent.

At least with those two. The rest of us are paupers.
 
Literally, there are SEC programs not named Alabama and Georgia that would still be near the top of other leagues based on their performance.
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I'm not seeing that this year outside of Tennessee

Ole Miss wouldn't be above the 3rd best team in any of the other P5 outside of maybe the ACC.

Texas A&M, Miss State, LSU, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky aren't getting close to winning any other league
 
Before someone says "THIS TEAM WOULD WIN THE BIG 10 WEST!" LOTS of teams would win the B1G West. I'll admit that. But lots of teams would also get slaughtered in the B1G title game by Ohio State or Michigan.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'm not seeing that this year outside of Tennessee

Ole Miss wouldn't be above the 3rd best team in any of the other P5 outside of maybe the ACC.

Texas A&M, Miss State, LSU, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky aren't getting close to winning any other league
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I agree with this statement. It would be on a program by program basis.

If you take B1G vs. SEC, I would make this comparison

Texas A&M = Iowa
Florida = Minnesota
Arkansas = Minnesota
Kentucky = maybe Penn State but leaning more towards Illinois
Miss State = Purdue

I haven't seen Ole Miss in a big enough matchup to truly gauge them. We are all down on Ole Miss right now but if they beat Alabama in Oxford, win the rest or most of their games, and make it to Atlanta, I think we maybe singing a different tune.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I agree with this statement. It would be on a program by program basis.

If you take B1G vs. SEC, I would make this comparison

Texas A&M = Iowa
Florida = Minnesota
Arkansas = Minnesota
Kentucky = maybe Penn State but leaning more towards Illinois
Miss State = Purdue

I haven't seen Ole Miss in a big enough matchup to truly gauge them. We are all down on Ole Miss right now but if they beat Alabama in Oxford, win the rest or most of their games, and make it to Atlanta, I think we maybe singing a different tune.
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Ole Miss just isnt that impressive from what i've seen of them. Last week a Auburn offense that has struggled badly all year gashed them on the ground for 300 yards at 6 YPC.

The week before they gave up 20 first half points to Vandy and 400 yards. Vandy scored 3 points total against Bama & UGA.

Tulsa had some pretty good offensive success against them as well.

The defense isnt good enough to compete consistently with the upper level teams. The offense didn't look that great against Kentucky, the only decent D they have played.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Ole Miss just isnt that impressive from what i've seen of them. Last week a Auburn offense that has struggled badly all year gashed them on the ground for 300 yards at 6 YPC.

The week before they gave up 20 first half points to Vandy and 400 yards. Vandy scored 3 points total against Bama & UGA
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We will see. They are unbeaten. You can nit pick a lot of teams right now with close games, etc. They are ~# 8 or # 9 which is pretty fair ranking for an undefeated Power 5 team in October. That is pretty par for any undefeated team this time of the year.

Now Syracuse probably deserves to be higher as an unbeaten and has argument to be in the lower half of top 10 as well. That is where media bias comes in. I don't think it is an SEC thing as it is more of a Syracuse is small program thing.

Also "recruiting rankings" once again comes in play because I am sure Ole Miss has better recruits than Syracuse.
 
Volbound1700 said:
We will see. They are unbeaten. You can nit pick a lot of teams right now with close games, etc. They are ~# 8 or # 9 which is pretty fair ranking for an undefeated Power 5 team in October. That is pretty par for any undefeated team this time of the year.

Now Syracuse probably deserves to be higher as an unbeaten and has argument to be in the lower half of top 10 as well. That is where media bias comes in. I don't think it is an SEC thing as it is more of a Syracuse is small program thing.

Also "recruiting rankings" once again comes in play because I am sure Ole Miss has better recruits than Syracuse.
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They are unbeaten.

Would they be Unbeaten with Bama's schedule though? Probably not, they probably have 2. maybe 3 losses. Speculation of course but who they've played has a lot to do with why they are unbeaten at this point.

Kentucky is the only game on their schedule so far they coulda even possibly lost.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
They are unbeaten.

Would they be Unbeaten with Bama's schedule though? Probably not, they probably have 2. maybe 3 losses. Speculation of course but who they've played has a lot to do with why they are unbeaten at this point.
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I think they would have probably a loss. If I had to pick a team that is on par with Ole Miss, it would be TCU. I think both are pretty even the way they play in my opinion. I am also not sure how TCU would finish the season if they played Ole Miss schedule from here on out and Alabama had to travel to TCU.

Oklahoma State is about on par with that as well since it took 2 OT for TCU to beat them. I think all three are probably 8-15 ranked teams in the scheme of things. However, I guess we will find out with more football to play.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Bama UGA & Tennessee would challenge any conference this year. Im not even arguing that.

I don't think you can say the team for any of the other SEC teams though. Ole Miss is scraping by garbage teams. Their ranking is a lot more of a product of who they've played rather than them actually being a upper level team.

So the SEC has 3 teams while the others mostly have 2 (or 1 in the ACCs case)
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No doubt those three could win all the other conferences. I just don't think they would win them as easily as several others seem to think they would.
 
Volbound1700 said:
I think they would have probably a loss. If I had to pick a team that is on par with Ole Miss, it would be TCU. I think both are pretty even the way they play in my opinion. I am also not sure how TCU would finish the season if they played Ole Miss schedule from here on out and Alabama had to travel to TCU.

Oklahoma State is about on par with that as well since it took 2 OT for TCU to beat them. I think all three are probably 8-15 ranked teams in the scheme of things. However, I guess we will find out with more football to play.
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I wouldnt be shocked if Ole Miss finished with just 1 loss

Texas A&M sucks, Arkansas is mediocre and Miss State is about average.

They'd be one of the more "meh" 11-1 teams you see. But still 11-1 is an accomplishment, wont deny that. But you'll get some people pretending like they are a elite team who "should be in the playoff because their only loss was to Bama!!!"
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Damn -- didn't think about that. SUCK IT OHIO STATE, WE BEAT YOU AGAIN. :beer2:
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Which means Michigan was actually 5-6 at game time! What an upset. Played their hearts out to get bowl eligible
 
Volbound1700 said:
I think they would have probably a loss. If I had to pick a team that is on par with Ole Miss, it would be TCU. I think both are pretty even the way they play in my opinion. I am also not sure how TCU would finish the season if they played Ole Miss schedule from here on out and Alabama had to travel to TCU.

Oklahoma State is about on par with that as well since it took 2 OT for TCU to beat them. I think all three are probably 8-15 ranked teams in the scheme of things. However, I guess we will find out with more football to play.
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I think it would be the same if TCU had Ole Miss schedule going forward.

Likely L to Bama but good chance they win all the other games.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I wouldnt be shocked if Ole Miss finished with just 1 loss

Texas A&M sucks, Arkansas is mediocre and Miss State is about average.

They'd be one of the more "meh" 11-1 teams you see. But still 11-1 is an accomplishment, wont deny that. But you'll get some people pretending like they are a elite team who "should be in the playoff because their only loss was to Bama!!!"
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Actually I haven't heard that. Perhaps you are listening to different media. To most people they are out of sight and out of mind. In fact, most people are expecting Alabama to waltz through and win the West.

They are not sniffing the playoffs unless they make it to Atlanta and they probably have to win in Atlanta. I also don't think Tennessee makes playoffs if we lose to Georgia.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Actually I haven't heard that. Perhaps you are listening to different media. To most people they are out of sight and out of mind. In fact, most people are expecting Alabama to waltz through and win the West.

They are not sniffing the playoffs unless they make it to Atlanta and they probably have to win in Atlanta. I also don't think Tennessee makes playoffs if we lose to Georgia.
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Well it hasn't happened yet, so of course no one has said it, lol. It would be said though by at least a couple of sports media clowns. I'd bet money on it.
 
I know you are down on Arkansas but they have won OOC games against Cincinnati and BYU. Sure BYU has struggled but the key thing about that win was Arkansas traveled to BYU and won in a very different geographical atmosphere than what they are used to. BYU lost @ Oregon and @ Notre Dame in those two games. I mean if BYU traveled to Arkansas, I would agree with you that it wasn't that big of a win.

Arkansas finishes the season at least 8-4, book it. Texas A&M deserves all the heat you are giving them. No excuse for their garbage season. They were lucky to even beat Arkansas.
 
Funny enough LSU could still technically win the SEC west, lol

They play both Ole Miss AND Bama at home.

How much of a cluster fuck would that be if they won both of those games?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I wouldnt be shocked if Ole Miss finished with just 1 loss

Texas A&M sucks, Arkansas is mediocre and Miss State is about average.

They'd be one of the more "meh" 11-1 teams you see. But still 11-1 is an accomplishment, wont deny that. But you'll get some people pretending like they are a elite team who "should be in the playoff because their only loss was to Bama!!!"
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I strongly doubt Ole Miss makes it through these next 5 games with only 1 loss. I think they have a better shot at 8-4 than they do 11-1.
 
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