Let’s Revisit This LSU Coaching Search

I think its funny how quick we all jump on the "candidates" because a couple talking heads mention them with no real foundation other than they think it would work or they think that person is possible.
 
The Riley thing would be believable if Oklahoma were a CFB stepping stone job, but they're not. Being a blueblood school, Riley has all the resources in Norman that he'd get in Baton Rouge (if not more).

Disclaimer: I do not see going to the NFL as 'stepping stone'.
 
I'm not taking the job at LSU.

And I can't believe why anybody would ask about it.

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Wild Turkey said:
Charlotte with no recruiting responsibilities verses Baton Rouge and having to play an SEC schedule.

You guys grossly over look how low the bar is to make the NFL playoffs and make people happy.
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It isn't that low of a bar. The greatest college coaches of all time - Saban and Urban Meyer will be 0 for 3 in their time as NFL coaches at making the playoffs. I can see Urban doing the same thing Saban did and jump ship back to college.

NFL is completely different ball game. The inherent advantage recruiting gives coaches at certain schools is gone in the NFL. You aren't going to overpower teams based on talent alone and most games the spread is 7 or less, so you don't weeks where you are playing a walking dead opponent, like you get to in college.
 
Red_Alert said:
The Riley thing would be believable if Oklahoma were a CFB stepping stone job, but they're not. Being a blueblood school, Riley has all the resources in Norman that he'd get in Baton Rouge (if not more).

Disclaimer: I do not see going to the NFL as 'stepping stone'.
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I agree with it being a blue blood and both schools have blank checks for resources. The only difference between the two would be the location of the school and the amount on in state talent they can bring in. Louisiana is a talent rich state and is the only big D1 school, so they get the pick of the litter, as long as schools like Bama or Georgia don't sway them.

Take 2022 for example -- Louisiana has 13 players out of the top 150 recruits nationally. That is a HUGE advantage. LSU looks like they sign 9 of the top 10 recruits from the state of Louisiana.
 
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NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I agree with it being a blue blood and both schools have blank checks for resources. The only difference between the two would be the location of the school and the amount on in state talent they can bring in. Louisiana is a talent rich state and is the only big D1 school, so they get the pick of the litter, as long as schools like Bama or Georgia don't sway them.

Take 2022 for example -- Louisiana has 13 players out of the top 150 recruits nationally. That is a HUGE advantage. LSU looks like they sign 9 of the top 10 recruits from the state of Louisiana.
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yeah.. That state produces high quality players, and they all go to LSU. I'm not sure how people figure ou is the better job, other than path of least resistance?
 
Thiefery said:
yeah.. That state produces high quality players, and they all go to LSU. I'm not sure how people figure ou is the better job, other than path of least resistance?
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Better president, better AD, bigger budget, better facilities.
 
Thiefery said:
yeah.. That state produces high quality players, and they all go to LSU. I'm not sure how people figure ou is the better job, other than path of least resistance?
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With OU coming to the SEC -- the LSU job is much more attractive than OU, IMO. ANY job where you can sign 9 of the top 150 recruits nationally in your home state is going to be the much more attractive job.

In state talent is a HUGE advantage for any of the elite schools. It isn't that OU isn't still one of the top jobs in CFB, but they are not going to dominate the SEC like they do the Big 12 and they will learn that rather quickly. The extra money will be nice, but they will be facing a monster upgrade in their schedule.
 
Wishbone said:
Better president, better AD, bigger budget, better facilities.
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LSU is right up there with Alabama for the best facilities in the SEC. OU is 3rd in the Big 12 behind Texas and Oklahoma State. So i'm thinking their facilities are just as good, if not better, than OU. They both have comparable budgets. As far as president, AD -- I can't imagine either would care what their football coach does at either school, as football is their schools cash cow.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I agree with it being a blue blood and both schools have blank checks for resources. The only difference between the two would be the location of the school and the amount on in state talent they can bring in. Louisiana is a talent rich state and is the only big D1 school, so they get the pick of the litter, as long as schools like Bama or Georgia don't sway them.

Take 2022 for example -- Louisiana has 13 players out of the top 150 recruits nationally. That is a HUGE advantage. LSU looks like they sign 9 of the top 10 recruits from the state of Louisiana.
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Got to be something to it. Three different coaches have won nattys at LSU since 2000. And there is a HUGE difference in the quality of those three coaches IMO. There HAS to be a significant talent factor involved in that stat. One of those three is absolutley great, the other two.............
 
Deep Creek said:
Got to be something to it. Three different coaches have won nattys at LSU since 2000. And there is a HUGE difference in the quality of those three coaches IMO. There HAS to be a significant talent factor involved in that stat. One of those three is absolutley great, the other two.............
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Like I said -- in 2022, Louisiana has 12 players (may have been 13?) ranked in the top 150 nationally in the state. When you have that type of talent and they are raised as LSU fans, it makes recruiting that much easier. The negative is, you have to go thru Bama and Georgia.
I don't see OU moving to the SEC helping them in any way. Instead of losing to those teams in the CFP, they will now lose to them in the regular season. I honestly don't see why OU or Texas wanted to go to the SEC?
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Like I said -- in 2022, Louisiana has 12 players (may have been 13?) ranked in the top 150 nationally in the state. When you have that type of talent and they are raised as LSU fans, it makes recruiting that much easier. The negative is, you have to go thru Bama and Georgia.
I don't see OU moving to the SEC helping them in any way. Instead of losing to those teams in the CFP, they will now lose to them in the regular season. I honestly don't see why OU or Texas wanted to go to the SEC?
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Money Money Money. OU has a winning record vs Alabama and outside of Georgia is probably the only team that can compete with them. Do you know what OU's home record is since 2000? No reason OU can't beat Bama and Georgia at home. Aggies, Longhorns, and Missou will probably be in our pod and never had a problem beating those teams. OU should have a chance to be in the SEC title game like they do now.
 
Wishbone said:
Money Money Money. OU has a winning record vs Alabama and outside of Georgia is probably the only team that can compete with them. Do you know what OU's home record is since 2000? No reason OU can't beat Bama and Georgia at home. Aggies, Longhorns, and Missou will probably be in our pod and never had a problem beating those teams. OU should have a chance to be in the SEC title game like they do now.
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I don't care what OU's record is since 2000. They weren't playing a SEC schedule. They are going from the big fish in a small pond, where Texas was the biggest rival, to just another fish with all the other big fish in the SEC.

I think Michigan is 3-3 against Alabama, but the LAST team i'd ever want in my division or even my conference was Alabama and with the crazy amount of talent in the state of Georgia these days -- I wouldn't want them anywhere near me until i had to face them.

OU is going to go from CFP all the time -- to the CFP once in a blue moon.
 
Wishbone said:
Aggies, Longhorns, and Missou will probably be in our pod and never had a problem beating those teams
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Goddamn, I hope they don't go to those fucking pods. The above is one huge reason. Of course Oklahoma had no problem beating them. They are Big 12 teams and still are. Aggies and Mizzu aren't SEC teams. They're B12 teams in the SEC. Of course OK will have six (at least) other teams to play but damn, they will have those 3 B12 teams every year. Fuck the pods.
 
Wishbone said:
Better president, better AD, bigger budget, better facilities.
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Bigger budget, better facilities? Yeah the school was teetering on the brink of bankruptcy (not like ou wasn't heavy in the red either), yet the football program keeps chugging along. LSU had ESPN cover the programs facilities just a few years ago, they were that good.

Also, they have had 3 championships to ou's 1 during the past 21 seasons.

But I don't see ou's shit looking like this.. (neither for my Horns)
 
I mean Les Miles left Lsu to go to Kansas. :biggrin:
 
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