Let's Talk About This 12 Team Playoff Deal...

osubuckeye89 said:
These games are all against second rate (not championship caliber) good but not great teams though.

Cincinnati is the only real "championship" scenario and they got embarrassed.

Itll be a whole different ball game when a real title is actually on the line.
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The BCS games were usually top 10 some even in top 5. and before opt outs.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Utah's win vs Bama is really the only one Id call very impressive.
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#15 UCF over #6 11-1 BigXII champ Baylor
#3 TCU over #5 11-1 Wisconsin
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Boise State's win over Oklahoma is so over romanticized. Oklahoma was a very meh 2 loss Big 12 champ that year, and Boise needed some school yard stuff to win the game.
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maybe so but in a 12 team playoff where Boise wins the MWC and climbs to around an 8 ranking they very well may see a 2 loss champion in the first round. its a playoff to advance. school yard shit to win gets you to the next step.
 
OlyDuck said:
#15 UCF over #6 11-1 BigXII champ Baylor
#3 TCU over #5 11-1 Wisconsin
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TCU was literally ranked ahead of Wisconsin lol, not like that was some monumental upset.

Baylor meh, their 1 loss was getting destroyed by Oklahoma State. That team also almost lost to a 4-8 TCU team late in the year. It's still Baylor. They are a program that loses games like that.
 
Is it just the "highest rated" G5 champ that gets in?

Gonna be fun when we end up with years where that's a 3/4 loss G5 team getting in over way more deserving P5 teams.

This year would fall into that mix if UCF beat Tulane in the AAC title game. Nothing says TITLE CHANCE DESERVED like losing to Louisville, Navy & East Carolina.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
TCU was literally ranked ahead of Wisconsin lol, not like that was some monumental upset.

Baylor meh, their 1 loss was getting destroyed by Oklahoma State. That team also almost lost to a 4-8 TCU team late in the year. It's still Baylor. They are a program that loses games like that.
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maybe so but they were still MWC at the time which has always been the rub against G5 "they dont play anyone" so them being ranked 2 spots ahead doesnt make it less impressive. would a currently ranked #3 TCU over #5 Ohio State not impress you today?
 
OlyDuck said:
maybe so but they were still MWC at the time which has always been the rub against G5 "they dont play anyone" so them being ranked 2 spots ahead doesnt make it less impressive. would a currently ranked #3 TCU over #5 Ohio State not impress you today?
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You're asking the wrong guy this question. Absolutely not lol. I would not be shocked at all if we lost to TCU this year if we happened to play somehow.

TCU went 12-1 the year before and 11-2 the year after. So I'd say they were just a pretty good team, better than your usual MWC champ. They probably woulda beat a lot of P5 teams that year. They did beat the best regular season team they played, Utah, Who was #6 at the time (In November) by 40 points
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Is it just the "highest rated" G5 champ that gets in?

Gonna be fun when we end up with years where that's a 3/4 loss G5 team getting in over way more deserving P5 teams.

This year would fall into that mix if UCF beat Tulane in the AAC title game. Nothing says TITLE CHANCE DESERVED like losing to Louisville, Navy & East Carolina.
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Last I saw was top 6 ranked champions. So in an odd event like we had in 2010 we had Auburn (SEC), Oregon (Pac), TCU (Mountain West), Wisconsin (Big10), Oklahoma (BigXII) and Boise (WAC)
the ACC would been out.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
You're asking the wrong guy this question. Absolutely not lol. I would not be shocked at all if we lost to TCU this year if we happened to play somehow.

TCU went 12-1 the year before and 11-2 the year after. So I'd say they were just a pretty good team, better than your usual MWC champ. They probably woulda beat a lot of P5 teams that year. They did beat the best regular season team they played, Utah, Who was #6 at the time (In November) by 40 points
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MW used to be strong and if Boise, Utah, TCU, BYU could have all gotten along and waited it out they might have had a chance at power conference.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I have long advocated for a G5 playoff. I think it would be fantastic for football nerds. I'd watch it. That said, one team getting in is no big deal when 11 other P5s get in. The 12th P5 can fuck off ... don't lose 2 or 3 games.
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Yeah, those of us that are CFB nerds would live a G5 playoff. Just not sure there are enough of us to warrant a big enough media payment that would equal what they are getting now.

But a 12 team G5 like what is proposed now would work with the first three rounds played at campuses.
 
Deep Creek said:
Yeah, those of us that are CFB nerds would live a G5 playoff. Just not sure there are enough of us to warrant a big enough media payment that would equal what they are getting now.

But a 12 team G5 like what is proposed now would work with the first three rounds played at campuses.
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Probably not.

It would have to be like a 4 team playoff for it to really work, I think.

A 12 team exclusive G5 playoff would be a bit much. I doubt many would care outside of maybe the final 4 & title game.

A 4 team G5 playoff could probably do ok enough in the right time slots on the right days though. (aka Not competing heads up with the P5 playoff in any way)
 
The playoff should be a maximum of 8 teams. The injuries are just too numerous to play 12 regular season games plus a conference championship and then 3 more games in the playoff for the two finalists. Fuck the participation ribbons for those teams who didn't make it. Get better.
 
Goldbug said:
The playoff should be a maximum of 8 teams. The injuries are just too numerous to play 12 regular season games plus a conference championship and then 3 more games in the playoff for the two finalists. Fuck the participation ribbons for those teams who didn't make it. Get better.
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Yea take the P5 champs and then decide on 3 at large teams. Easy and more practical.

Can't wait for the annual arguing about which 3 loss team shoulda gotten in instead of being left out of the 12 teamer.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Yea take the P5 champs and then decide on 3 at large teams. Easy and more practical.

Can't wait for the annual arguing about which 3 loss team shoulda gotten in instead of being left out of the 12 teamer.
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8 is perfect. Those extra 3 teams can be schools like Ohio State this year that came up short once or Alabama who (gasp!) lost two games on the road on the last play. It would still winnow out someone like USC if they lose to Utah twice. It would be fair and manageable. But the money grubbing heathens have done their best to ruin the sport and I don't expect them to let up now.
 
Goldbug said:
The playoff should be a maximum of 8 teams. The injuries are just too numerous to play 12 regular season games plus a conference championship and then 3 more games in the playoff for the two finalists. Fuck the participation ribbons for those teams who didn't make it. Get better.
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Injuries are not a function of the number of games ... they are a function of practice (this has been handled the past few years), and the number of snaps per season. You can have the same number of snaps with more games with a few minor rule changes. This is what they will do.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Yea take the P5 champs and then decide on 3 at large teams. Easy and more practical.

Can't wait for the annual arguing about which 3 loss team shoulda gotten in instead of being left out of the 12 teamer.
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That won't happen, IMO, or if it does it will last a half day. No one will care about who was no. 13. Lose less than 3 games and it won't matter.
 
Goldbug said:
8 is perfect. Those extra 3 teams can be schools like Ohio State this year that came up short once or Alabama who (gasp!) lost two games on the road on the last play. It would still winnow out someone like USC if they lose to Utah twice. It would be fair and manageable. But the money grubbing heathens have done their best to ruin the sport and I don't expect them to let up now.
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This is a contradictory statement - how can you be a money grubbing heathen and ruin the sport. If you ruin the sport, then they won't make any money so no money grubbing. They are money grubbing because they are making it way better and people will pay to see more good football. The market will speak loudly.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
This is a contradictory statement - how can you be a money grubbing heathen and ruin the sport. If you ruin the sport, then they won't make any money so no money grubbing. They are money grubbing because they are making it way better and people will pay to see more good football. The market will speak loudly.
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More money doesn’t automatically equal a better product.

Look at OoC one-off neutral site games vs legitimate H&H‘s.

The neutral site one-offs always make more money than the H&H’s. But the games almost always have better energy, better vibe, and more entertaining when it’s at a team’s actual home stadium instead of an NFL stadium.
 
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