Mark Emmert Stepping Down

ND is part of the alliance

Discussing The Alliance ...

A lot of people are asking, “what’s this mean for Notre Dame?” After all, Jack Swarbrick wasn’t in on these talks — so what now for the Irish?


I suppose that for non-football they are, but The Alliance, to the extent it is a power play against the SEC, is all about football.
 
The SEC is driving this thing. The B1G can co-drive if they want to, but we couldn't give two shits about the ACC or the PAC. in 5 years, we will be making 120% more per team than them. In an environment where we are paying players, we will simply outspend those conferences. Not saying I like that, but the Alliance teams not called the B1G just don't have a lot or leverage.


Think through this scenario ... the Alliance plays hard ball and says that only 2 teams per conference, and the Rose Bowl gets some super duper preferred treatment. The SEC says, nah, if you want limits, we are out. They then bring in the B12 and ND and say we are going to have our own CFP. We will be done by the second week of January. If you want to send your champion to play us, we are here and waiting. I agree that ND might go either way, but think ultimately they would go where the best football is.
Think about this scenario lol... The SEC will care if the others want to fuck over the SEC. All it takes is banding together and separating from the current model and excluding the SEC from their newly formed league and playoff. The SEC can continue to play FCS, maybe some G5, and have a conference championship game they want to believe is a playoff. Fact is that if all of the teams outside the SEC wanted to fuck them over... they could and it wouldn't impact them as much as it would impact the SEC. G5 teams and conferences are more likely to go along with the most teams or do their own league, before playing Switzerland unless the SEC wanted to pick them up, but those aren't big gets bringing in much money.
We have a CFP with Bama, UGA, LSU, OU, Texas, ATM, UF, UTjr,

Meanwhile you have a CFP with tOSU, UM, PSU, USC, Oregon, Clemson, FSU and Miami.

Which one makes the most money? Which top players want to play in which CFP?
Again, it would change in a heartbeat if the Alliance wanted to utilize the leverage they actually have. You take 50+ teams garnering repeated attention all across the CFB landscape while forcing the SEC to continuously play the same teams or Mercer or Citadel all the time, no one outside the SEC will give a fuck.
When I started this post, I thought it would be obvious it would be the SEC and their gang. But, the other group doesn't look too bad. A lot would depend on where all the good players end up going, and I think the SEC would continue to get the most best players.
I would agree if things stay the same.
I think that the reason I go with the SEC is that the B1G is going to take one look at this and say WTF, why are we pulling all these other conferences along? Sure we have the B12, but the B1G will be supporting the ACC and the PAC. The SEC will have ESPN and even though I support multiple networks, ESPN is still the top dog.
Because the B1G would understand that by using this leverage it would essentially kill the SEC while simultaneously growing the B1G brand in a newly formed League/Conference. The money and players would absolutely follow. The SEC needs the B1G more than you homers might want to think and that Alliance, if chosen to be used as such, could kill the SEC.
 
They play with money. If they find a net gain they will. Plus, for the sport of football, it may be inevitable.
They make more than any other conference in football already.
 
They make more than any other conference in football already.
For now, but it is also about looking into the future. If nothing is done, the SEC will pull further away and dominate so much (with NIL) that it will become a defacto Minor league identifiably different than the B1G and other CFB teams.

Changes are on the horizon, because they have to be if the sport is going to continue.
 
For now, but it is also about looking into the future. If nothing is done, the SEC will pull further away and dominate so much (with NIL) that it will become a defacto Minor league identifiably different than the B1G and other CFB teams.

Changes are on the horizon, because they have to be if the sport is going to continue.
Winning Natties isn’t what tBIG based its income off.

You have to go back over sixty years to get to a third BIG member winning one while actually part of the Conference.

Being separate from minor league football is their goal, like I said earlier, they play skool.
 
Think about this scenario lol... The SEC will care if the others want to fuck over the SEC. All it takes is banding together and separating from the current model and excluding the SEC from their newly formed league and playoff. The SEC can continue to play FCS, maybe some G5, and have a conference championship game they want to believe is a playoff. Fact is that if all of the teams outside the SEC wanted to fuck them over... they could and it wouldn't impact them as much as it would impact the SEC. G5 teams and conferences are more likely to go along with the most teams or do their own league, before playing Switzerland unless the SEC wanted to pick them up, but those aren't big gets bringing in much money.

Again, it would change in a heartbeat if the Alliance wanted to utilize the leverage they actually have. You take 50+ teams garnering repeated attention all across the CFB landscape while forcing the SEC to continuously play the same teams or Mercer or Citadel all the time, no one outside the SEC will give a fuck.

I would agree if things stay the same.

Because the B1G would understand that by using this leverage it would essentially kill the SEC while simultaneously growing the B1G brand in a newly formed League/Conference. The money and players would absolutely follow. The SEC needs the B1G more than you homers might want to think and that Alliance, if chosen to be used as such, could kill the SEC.
I think you are underestimating the SEC, putting too much faith in the PAC and the ACC, not recognizing that the B1G is much more likely to partner with the SEC than they are to turn against them, and forgetting the B12 will side with the SEC.

The SEC is by far the best and most diverse conference today, and will be more so with Texas and OU. If you look at the NCs in the last 2 decades, you have the new SEC with 15 of the 21 championships, the others going to USC, tOSU, FSU, Miami and Clemson. In the past 17 years you only have 3 teams - FSU, Clemson and tOSU winning NCs from the Alliance, with the SEC having 6 different teams winning with OU being a staple in the CFP. They dominate in recruiting and the NFL draft. Money wise, only the B1G can compare. They have all the geographical advantages. We are far more likely to be able to go on our own than any other conference, including the B1G.

The Alliance is the B1G. The ACC and the PAC are so weak in football they don't bring anything to the table. The PAC has missed the CFP the past 6 years I believe. The ACC is Clemson and we will know where they are this year - does Dabo adjust? The PAC has the west coast time problem, and the ACC just has a lot of bad teams who aren't likely going to get good any time soon. Neither have a TV contract worth a shit. There is no value to Purdue v. Arizona State, or Indian v. Duke/Pit/Syracuse/Wake. So you may have more teams, but you have more bad teams.

Which brings us to the lack of recognition that the B1G won't go all in with the others ... there is nothing in it for them. They can hold their own with the SEC money wise, even if they are dominated by tOSU, with PSU and UM also having some star power. They have a good time zone, a large and great fanbase. But in order to make this work as an Alliance, they would have to be willing to share the wealth with two other conferences. Why would they do that? It would be cutting off their nose to spite their face. The SEC can make their TV money without the B12 or anyone else. For the Alliance to work as you have stated, the B1G has to share their wealth with the others and they aren't going to do that.

Finally you act as if the game inventory of the B1G/PAC/ACC would be better than the SEC if they went alone. Well, the SEC would have the B12, for whatever that is worth as they aren't Alliance. And the inventory that you would get from Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, UF, ATM, Texas, Oklahoma with Baylor, OkSU, TCU, Cincy, and others thrown in will be better or as good as what the Alliance can put together. And, it's done in the region of the country where it does mean more, and where there are more eyeballs as the ACC and the PAC really don't bring that much.

Not only would the Alliance not be able to kill the SEC - the idea that teams that won 15 of the last 21 NCs would not do just fine going forward without the Alliance is ludicrous - there is a very good chance the SEC would be far more popular and profitable than the Alliance as they would generate as much money with far less teams to share it with. As I said in my post, the most logical outcome, having typed all this out, is that both would actually do fine. But if you think the southern players would start to go north or to the Midwest, I don't think you have thought through this well enough. The geographical advantages are all to the SEC ... there is nothing exciting or sexy about the Alliance that would suddenly make players flock to Purdue or Washington State, or Syracuse. Or for that matter, to freeze their asses off in Michigan, or go all the way out west to USC or UCLA. The southern players from Florida, Georgia, Texas, and Alabama would stay in the SEC.

At the end of the day I disagree that the SEC needs the B1G more than the B1G needs the SEC. But, I do believe it's best if there isn't a split. I hope both sides realize that we are better off together. I've posted that often. Then what will likely happen is that the B1G and the SEC will go to being the remaining two super conferences with the SEC getting Clemson, FSU, Miami, and say UNC, VaTech, NCState and a few others. The B1G will get west coast and east coast divisions with USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington, and then some of the ACC teams like UNC (I know I have them listed twice), Duke, UVa, and a few others. What's left of the ACC, PAC and B12 will be left picking up the scraps.

I know, I know, too long, didn't read ... fuck you! :nutswinger::beer2: :hammer:
 
What an unreal job you wouldn't want to have. Forde is obviously no fan of Emmert.
Forde sticks his head in the sand but he's not the only one criticizing the Emmert era. If you listen to Andy Staples latest pod, he had not one good thing to say about the Emmert era.. he even says that normally you can find ONE thing someone did good, but in this case there is NOTHING lol.
 
I think you are underestimating the SEC, putting too much faith in the PAC and the ACC, not recognizing that the B1G is much more likely to partner with the SEC than they are to turn against them, and forgetting the B12 will side with the SEC.
I said that the SEC and B1G should join together first. I am just using that scenario as a means to fuck over the SEC if they want to act like they have all the power. They want to act like a bitch, they can get treated like one.
The SEC is by far the best and most diverse conference today, and will be more so with Texas and OU. If you look at the NCs in the last 2 decades, you have the new SEC with 15 of the 21 championships, the others going to USC, tOSU, FSU, Miami and Clemson. In the past 17 years you only have 3 teams - FSU, Clemson and tOSU winning NCs from the Alliance, with the SEC having 6 different teams winning with OU being a staple in the CFP. They dominate in recruiting and the NFL draft. Money wise, only the B1G can compare. They have all the geographical advantages. We are far more likely to be able to go on our own than any other conference, including the B1G.
I would dare the SEC to go on their own. If the B1G and the other remaining conferences band together, the SEC will drown from boredom. You would be subjected to play nothing but FCS and each other. You might think that is enough, but it isn't in the long run. People crave diversity, they want those rare, non-con match ups.
The Alliance is the B1G. The ACC and the PAC are so weak in football they don't bring anything to the table. The PAC has missed the CFP the past 6 years I believe. The ACC is Clemson and we will know where they are this year - does Dabo adjust? The PAC has the west coast time problem, and the ACC just has a lot of bad teams who aren't likely going to get good any time soon. Neither have a TV contract worth a shit. There is no value to Purdue v. Arizona State, or Indian v. Duke/Pit/Syracuse/Wake. So you may have more teams, but you have more bad teams.
It really doesn't matter as much as you might think. Again, if a separation happened, people would come just to see the varying match ups year in and year out, no one would want to see the SEC only play SEC. And 50+ teams have more claim to crowning a national champion than a 16 team conference naming a conference champion would.
Which brings us to the lack of recognition that the B1G won't go all in with the others ... there is nothing in it for them. They can hold their own with the SEC money wise, even if they are dominated by tOSU, with PSU and UM also having some star power. They have a good time zone, a large and great fanbase. But in order to make this work as an Alliance, they would have to be willing to share the wealth with two other conferences. Why would they do that? It would be cutting off their nose to spite their face. The SEC can make their TV money without the B12 or anyone else. For the Alliance to work as you have stated, the B1G has to share their wealth with the others and they aren't going to do that.
That's where you are wrong, for the SEC to continue to make their money, it is dependent on their openness to the rest of CFB. If they were outcast and subject to only play each other and FCS and weren't admitted into the Alliances playoff, then their money would drop. In the long run, the B1Gs would continue to climb.
Finally you act as if the game inventory of the B1G/PAC/ACC would be better than the SEC if they went alone. Well, the SEC would have the B12, for whatever that is worth as they aren't Alliance. And the inventory that you would get from Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, UF, ATM, Texas, Oklahoma with Baylor, OkSU, TCU, Cincy, and others thrown in will be better or as good as what the Alliance can put together. And, it's done in the region of the country where it does mean more, and where there are more eyeballs as the ACC and the PAC really don't bring that much.
I doubt the Big12 would side with the SEC, but even if they did, so what. The SEC wouldn't be adding any nationally relevant or historic names. It wouldn't do much. The Alliance would control both coasts and the heart of the country. The mere numbers of 40 teams would generate enough buzz for game inventory than watching the same shit out of the SEC every year. Sure, you could be happy with the addition of Kansas, Kansas St, Okie St, Baylot, etc... but we all know that no one cares about them, hence why they were left behind.
Not only would the Alliance not be able to kill the SEC - the idea that teams that won 15 of the last 21 NCs would not do just fine going forward without the Alliance is ludicrous - there is a very good chance the SEC would be far more popular and profitable than the Alliance as they would generate as much money with far less teams to share it with.
Again, I believe you are placing far too much hope in people caring to watch the same 16 teams play only those 16 teams year in and year out AND being void of an actual, national playoff. Profits would dip if the SEC was cut off.
 
I said that the SEC and B1G should join together first. I am just using that scenario as a means to fuck over the SEC if they want to act like they have all the power. They want to act like a bitch, they can get treated like one.

I would dare the SEC to go on their own. If the B1G and the other remaining conferences band together, the SEC will drown from boredom. You would be subjected to play nothing but FCS and each other. You might think that is enough, but it isn't in the long run. People crave diversity, they want those rare, non-con match ups.

It really doesn't matter as much as you might think. Again, if a separation happened, people would come just to see the varying match ups year in and year out, no one would want to see the SEC only play SEC. And 50+ teams have more claim to crowning a national champion than a 16 team conference naming a conference champion would.

That's where you are wrong, for the SEC to continue to make their money, it is dependent on their openness to the rest of CFB. If they were outcast and subject to only play each other and FCS and weren't admitted into the Alliances playoff, then their money would drop. In the long run, the B1Gs would continue to climb.

I doubt the Big12 would side with the SEC, but even if they did, so what. The SEC wouldn't be adding any nationally relevant or historic names. It wouldn't do much. The Alliance would control both coasts and the heart of the country. The mere numbers of 40 teams would generate enough buzz for game inventory than watching the same shit out of the SEC every year. Sure, you could be happy with the addition of Kansas, Kansas St, Okie St, Baylot, etc... but we all know that no one cares about them, hence why they were left behind.

Again, I believe you are placing far too much hope in people caring to watch the same 16 teams play only those 16 teams year in and year out AND being void of an actual, national playoff. Profits would dip if the SEC was cut off.
Appreciate the civil dialog.

One point I will repeat ... if you think the B1G will bring all 4 P5 conferences into the Alliance, ask yourself, why? By 2026 the B1G will be making 110 million per team. The other 2 or 3 will be making around $55 million each. Why in the world would they be willing to share their revenue with 3 other conferences that aren't able to generate the revenue? Poach their best teams? Sure. But if you start poaching teams then we get the scenario I painted where the SEC will poach Clemson, FSU etc. and we have 2 Super Conferences. In order for your scenario to work, the B1G would have to be willing to take huge cuts per team, and they simply aren't going to do that. They already told the PAC to pound sand on scheduling.
 
@Blackshirts BLVD

I recalled reading an article that suggested the SEC run it's own CFP. It's behind The Athletic paywall, but from time to time I post an article here (you pours should do the $1 per month deal they run):

Also, see

The SEC vs. All Y’all: Could College Football Playoff expansion collapse pit SEC against the rest in new playoff?​

By Andy Staples
Feb 21, 2022


While discussing conferences acting against the best interests of their members in my Saturday column, I zeroed in on the tone of SEC commissioner Greg Sankey without adequately considering why he adopted that tone. Sankey, one of the architects of the 12-team College Football Playoff proposal that got tabled Friday until at least 2026, said in the aftermath that the SEC may now withdraw its support for a 12-team model and throw its weight behind something else.

The initial thought for that something else? Stay at four. The SEC has won the national title five times in the eight seasons of the four-team CFP. It has had an all-SEC national title game in a quarter of those seasons. That system has worked really well for the SEC. But I wrote this Saturday for a reason:

It might just be frustration, an empty threat by the SEC to take its ball and go home. At the end of the day, a 12-team CFP still benefits the SEC more than a four-team CFP does. The league could get three or four teams in some years, and the variation among the above-average programs means much of the league could make the CFP over time.

Upon further review, perhaps I emphasized the wrong endgame. I was considering what gave the SEC the best chance to win the national title, but that was silly. The SEC already has a great chance to produce a national champion regardless of the system. What I hadn’t considered was that the SEC, after spending the past year supporting a format that would have given other leagues some of what they wanted/needed, might simply stop worrying about the other leagues altogether. Sankey seems mad enough to do that.
A 12-team CFP may benefit the SEC more than a four-team CFP. But what might benefit the SEC even more?

Not a College Football Playoff. An SEC playoff.

This is not a suggestion that the SEC break away completely from the other leagues. The SEC’s teams still could play nonconference regular-season games against teams from other conferences. But come the postseason, the 16-team SEC — remember, Oklahoma and Texas are on the way — could stage its own six- or eight-team tournament. Quarterfinals (or first-round games, in the case of a six-teamer) would be played on campus. The semifinals would be played on campus. Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston, Dallas or Miami could fight over who hosts the final, which would kick off at 8 p.m. ET on Jan. 1.

If the other nine FBS conferences and Notre Dame wanted to stage their own tournament in a manner of their choosing, they could. (It would make a lot less money than a tournament that included SEC schools, but it would still make a lot of money.) If that tournament happened to culminate with a 5 p.m. ET kickoff in the Rose Bowl on Jan. 1, even better. And if the champion of that tournament happened to play the champion of the SEC tournament on the Monday night following the final weekend of the NFL regular season, then that’s more money for everyone.

It would be like the original concept for the Super Bowl, which matched the champions of the NFL and the AFL. Those leagues merged into what we now know as the NFL, but the leagues could remain separate in college. That game would do a monster rating. Since college football essentially has become the SEC vs. All Y’all anyway, why not codify that with an end-of-season matchup that allows the winning side to rub the loser’s face in it for 364 days?

You may be saying that the SEC wouldn’t be allowed to have its teams play so many games, but remember, the schools make those rules. And seven of the 10 FBS conferences just voted for the 12-team playoff proposal, which allowed for a maximum of 17 games for one or two teams. The system I just described would max out at 16 games, even if the teams that lost in the SEC tourney were slotted into bowl games afterward.

Why would the SEC do this? Because it doesn’t need to play nice anymore. The current CFP contract requires a unanimous vote to change anything during the contract. So the leagues tried diplomacy. But the Big Ten and Pac-12 refused to budge on automatic-qualifier language that leaders of the other conferences considered to be lawsuit bait. The ACC wanted to wait and see, presumably to ensure Notre Dame didn’t get locked into a system that ensured it would never have to join a conference in football.

When the leagues reconvene to discuss the CFP, they can re-create the thing from scratch. This includes deciding the voting margins needed to make changes. If we’re speaking practically here, the only leagues whose opinions will truly matter at that point are the Big Ten and the SEC. Without either one of those, there is no truly national playoff. If, say, the ACC or the Pac-12 disagrees and doesn’t want to take part, few would care outside the fans of the teams in those leagues. So if Sankey and the SEC leaders are mad enough about the way this went down — and if they want to make some real money — then they can just tell the others to go play amongst themselves and send their champion for a one-game payday.

The SEC would need only to ensure that it has support from enough schools to get some flexibility for its teams in the number of games played. That would require a revised NCAA rule — or a rule created by whatever body governs major college football going forward. The SEC probably could get that because several leagues might look at this plan and want to emulate it.

Think of it this way. With everyone aware that if Alabama won that the SEC would get two teams into the CFP, the Alabama-Georgia SEC title game in December drew 15.3 million viewers. Now imagine the winner of that game goes on to face the winner of whatever we’re calling the other leagues’ playoff. There is no do-over for the loser. It probably draws a bigger audience.

Now put two high-stakes semifinals ahead of it and two first-round games ahead of those. A six-team SEC Playoff would include five games. Those games might fetch $300 million or more from Disney — which owns the SEC’s other rights — or some other network desperate for premium live sports programming. This also could increase season ticket sales on individual SEC campuses as fans ensure they get a crack at buying SEC tourney tickets.

The Big Ten is about to sign blockbuster media rights deals that will blow away everyone else’s revenue distribution, but this could bring the SEC neck-and-neck. It also would generate more than the SEC would make from a 12-team CFP Playoff, and that’s before the first ticket or luxury box is sold.

Imagine this for a hypothetical tournament:

Round 1
  • No. 6 Texas A&M at No. 3 Oklahoma
  • No. 5 LSU at No. 4 Florida
Semifinals
  • Texas A&M-Oklahoma winner at No. 1 Georgia
  • LSU-Florida winner at No. 2 Alabama
But if you’re going to have a three-weekend affair, may as well add two more games and some extra cash. Here’s how the first weekend of an eight-team tournament would look.
Quarterfinals
  • No. 8 Auburn at No. 1 Georgia
  • No. 7 Kentucky at No. 2 Alabama
  • No. 6 Texas A&M at No. 3 Oklahoma
  • No. 5 LSU at No. 4 Florida
Remember, the current divisions probably won’t still exist in this format. The SEC is likely headed to nine conference games with a few fixed rivalries per team. So each team will miss seven league members each regular season. There would be fewer rematches than you’d think. Of course, 50.4 million viewers watched an NFC Championship Game between two division rivals (the Los Angeles Rams and the San Francisco 49ers) that had already played twice in the regular season.

So maybe no one needs to worry about rematches as long as the games are interesting.

Now, the other schools would not have to send their champion to play the SEC champ. But no one would declare that team a national champ. You can’t be the best without playing the SEC’s best, just as the SEC’s champ can’t declare itself the best in the nation if it doesn’t beat the best of the other leagues. Plus, such a game would be worth a ton of money to TV networks, and it’s yet another piece of inventory that could be sold to the highest bidder.

The difference between that title game and the title game of the 12-team Playoff the leagues just passed on implementing?

The SEC keeps half the money.

Will this happen? Not necessarily. This is only a prediction of what the SEC could do with a little imagination and a whole lot of spite. The ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12 have already filled the spite reservoir. So all that’s left is to imagine …
 
This is good I guess but… realistically, what’s the next person in charge gonna do to change anything at this point? Too little too late iyam.

I AM excited for the Notre Dame to the BIG move that I think is coming tho so, there’s that.
 
apparently, the NCAA is moving forward.

something about banning partial schollys and pulling limits. I

This is supposed to really affect baseball. Not sure about football.
 
Appreciate the civil dialog.

One point I will repeat ... if you think the B1G will bring all 4 P5 conferences into the Alliance, ask yourself, why? By 2026 the B1G will be making 110 million per team. The other 2 or 3 will be making around $55 million each. Why in the world would they be willing to share their revenue with 3 other conferences that aren't able to generate the revenue? Poach their best teams? Sure. But if you start poaching teams then we get the scenario I painted where the SEC will poach Clemson, FSU etc. and we have 2 Super Conferences. In order for your scenario to work, the B1G would have to be willing to take huge cuts per team, and they simply aren't going to do that. They already told the PAC to pound sand on scheduling.
No need to do that. Keep the money as it is per conference, but start a new league without the SEC. Everything will stay the same, except no SEC and the B1G would be the driver. Modify however for parity and future longevity and the SEC can come in when they swallow their pride.
 
No need to do that. Keep the money as it is per conference, but start a new league without the SEC. Everything will stay the same, except no SEC and the B1G would be the driver. Modify however for parity and future longevity and the SEC can come in when they swallow their pride.
LOL ... okay ... basically, get rid of all the best teams and somehow you are better than now. We'll have to agree to disagree.
 
LOL ... okay ... basically, get rid of all the best teams and somehow you are better than now. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Of all the best teams? Aside from Bama and UGA right now, everyone else is mediocre to bad.

Like I said, over time that system would kill the money and national viewership of the SEC. The players would eventually follow suit once they saw that and realized that playing in the SEC means only playing in the SEC and no signature bowls, no national playoff, etc... just a conference championship game. Sure they could try to have their own playoff, but doing what... taking the top 2 from each division or 4 from pods? K, it'll be interesting at first, but without the national pool interest will inevitably decline outside the SEC.

The best bet is for the SEC and B1G to stick together, but I'm just saying, if the SEC wanted to act like they get to call all the shots, the leverage is there to lay it to them.
 
Of all the best teams? Aside from Bama and UGA right now, everyone else is mediocre to bad.

Like I said, over time that system would kill the money and national viewership of the SEC. The players would eventually follow suit once they saw that and realized that playing in the SEC means only playing in the SEC and no signature bowls, no national playoff, etc... just a conference championship game. Sure they could try to have their own playoff, but doing what... taking the top 2 from each division or 4 from pods? K, it'll be interesting at first, but without the national pool interest will inevitably decline outside the SEC.

The best bet is for the SEC and B1G to stick together, but I'm just saying, if the SEC wanted to act like they get to call all the shots, the leverage is there to lay it to them.
Read the article I posted. It lays out the SEC CFP. At best you might match them, but you don’t have the star power to beat them let alone vanquish the SEC. You’re dreaming.
 
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