GAME National Championship Ohio State vs Notre Dame 7:30pm ET ESPN

podsox said:
USA Today's Dan Wolken says Notre Dame players said 'threatening' things to him after national title game This guy made it sound like nd locker room was crazy. Everybody was fighting. Apparently a couple nd players told him to fuck off after asking gray about getting burned
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Yeah. Was reading on this too. Sounds like the asshole asked a 19-20 year old kid basically how it felt to be the reason they lost and some teammates came to his defense. Now he is trying to play the victim. Media nowadays are basically all paparazzi
 
Voltaire said:
The win just makes our season better ... but you are fucking with their heads. :dhd:

I am just stating the obvious. you guys were attacking us after we won ... I just kinda laughed at y'all. The Lion should not concern itself with the opinions of the sheep. If you gonna be a winner ... act like it!!!

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Attacking you? Nancy, is that you? You want a tissue? Don’t cheat and you won’t get attacked.

I am enjoying the win and amazing season. Maybe you should focus on improving.

I just think it is funny, Michigan fans hang their hat on a couple wins in a row while Ohio St fans dominated for the last two decades. We didn’t need to talk about that bc it was expected.
Expectations are different with an elite blue blood program unlike a run of the mill program like Michigan, who did most of their winning in the early 1900’s.
It’s all good. Maybe you guys will get to 9 wind next season lol
 
Voltaire said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you think we are your "little brother"? We are not from the same state; University of Michigan began in 1817, ohio state began in 1870; Michigan holds a lead of 62-51-6 and Michigan has a 4 Game Winning streak against ohio state. In all fairness, it should be 52 with our not showing up in 2020. So what is your methodology behind the "little brother" quote?
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In the modern era of college football, Ohio State has been dominant while michigan has been dormant. One outright national title in 75 years and it came with the largest cheating scandal in CFB history (as did three of those wins over OSU) while OSU has eight. We've owned you this century and continue to do so, we've owned the series over the last century, and when we win a national title you guys melt down.

MnB's profile is a perfect example, listing out accomplishments only from the last 4 years because there haven't been any otherwise, making sure to point out a few wins over actual programs who have accomplishments going back decades. It screams little brother syndrome.
 
Across The Field said:
In the modern era of college football, Ohio State has been dominant while michigan has been dormant. One outright national title in 75 years and it came with the largest cheating scandal in CFB history (as did three of those wins over OSU) while OSU has eight. We've owned you this century and continue to do so, we've owned the series over the last century, and when we win a national title you guys melt down.

MnB's profile is a perfect example, listing out accomplishments only from the last 4 years because there haven't been any otherwise, making sure to point out a few wins over actual programs who have accomplishments going back decades. It screams little brother syndrome.
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Let's see what Michigan did? In person scouting, decoding simple signs from unimaginative teams and buying a recruit a cheeseburger.

Let's take a look at ohio state ... copied from Wikipedia
Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia.

The scandal then took off when five players - Terrelle Pryor, Devier Posey, Mike Adams, Solomon Thomas, and Boom Herron were suspended by the NCAA on December 22, 2010 for the first five games of the 2011 season for receiving improper benefits from the owner of a tattoo parlor. However, the players were allowed to participate in the upcoming Sugar Bowl game against Arkansas. The suspensions resulted from an incident where the players received tattoos for autographs. The players also sold several items given to them by the university, including Big Ten championship rings, jerseys, and other football-related awards for tattoos.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> Head coach Jim Tressel denied any involvement and knowledge of the players committing these violations.

The scandal originated from Fine Line Tattoos and Piercings in Columbus. The owner of the parlor, Edward Rife, was being investigated by the FBI for felony drug trafficking. Tressel was first notified of the arrangement in April 2010 when he received several e-mails from Chris Cicero, a local attorney and former Ohio State football player. It was later revealed that Cicero had warned Tressel that he could not tell anyone the information, as it was sealed as part of a grand jury investigation.

Tressel never forwarded the e-mails, nor the information contained in them about potential violations, to his school's compliance office or the NCAA. The U.S. Department of Justice notified Ohio State that at least six current players, including Pryor, had traded team memorabilia for tattoos or cash at the parlor. Sports Illustrated revealed that they had found evidence that the cash for memorabilia scandal dated back to Ohio State’s 2002 national championship team, and that as many as 28 players were involved. Sports Illustrated also discovered allegations that Ohio State players had traded memorabilia for marijuana.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a><a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a><a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a>

Records of roughly 50 cars owned by current and former Ohio State football players, including Pryor, were also investigated.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a><a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> Multiple media outlets including ESPN reported that Pryor was driving with a suspended license.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> Pryor was seen driving a Nissan 350Z to team meetings and workouts.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a><a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a>

On January 3, 2011, Tressel's email exchanges with Cicero were leaked to the university. On January 16, Tressel confessed that he had not shared the violations committed by the players out of concern for their well-being. On March 8, Ohio State suspended Tressel for the first two games of the 2011 season and fined him $250,000 for not informing the university of NCAA violations and denying knowledge of the players receiving improper benefits.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a><a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a> Tressel's suspension would later be increased to five games by the university. However, Ohio State president Gordon Gee assured Tressel that he would not be fired.

On April 25, 2011, the NCAA accused Tressel of withholding information. In their notice of allegations sent to Ohio State, the NCAA stated that Tressel's actions were considered "potential major violations" which had "permitted football student-athletes to participate in intercollegiate athletics while ineligible." The report also said he "failed to comport himself ... (with) honesty and integrity."<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a> Tressel claimed that he lied about the violations because he didn't want to jeopardize the FBI's investigation into Rife and that he feared for his players' safety.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a> On May 30, Tressel resigned as Ohio State's head coach.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a> On June 8, Terrelle Pryor announced that he would forgo his senior year as a result of the scandal.<a href="Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a>

Punishment​

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The NCAA issued sanctions against Ohio State on July 8, 2011. Ohio State was forced to vacate all wins from the 2010 season (including the 2011 Sugar Bowl win), they were issued a postseason ban for the 2012 season, two years of NCAA probation, a five-year show cause for Jim Tressel, and a reduction of five scholarships over three years.
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Now let's take a look at this little brother fixation that you have: Copied from an earlier post from me.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think we are your "little brother"? We are not from the same state; University of Michigan began in 1817, ohio state began in 1870; Michigan holds a lead of 62-51-6 and Michigan has a 4 Game Winning streak against ohio state. In all fairness, it should be 52 with our not showing up in 2020. So what is your methodology behind the "little brother" quote?
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Fell free to answer either highlighted statement. If it were me, I'd just say "We are the undisputed champs", and move on your merry way.
 
Voltaire said:
Let's see what Michigan did? In person scouting, decoding simple signs from unimaginative teams and buying a recruit a cheeseburger.

Let's take a look at ohio state ... copied from Wikipedia
Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia.


Now let's take a look at this little brother fixation that you have: Copied from an earlier post from me.


Fell free to answer either highlighted statement. If it were me, I'd just say "We are the undisputed champs", and move on your merry way.
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So players sold/traded their own stuff for services? How did this affect anything on the field?
 
Voltaire said:
Let's see what Michigan did? In person scouting, decoding simple signs from unimaginative teams and buying a recruit a cheeseburger.

Let's take a look at ohio state ... copied from Wikipedia
Ohio State University football scandal - Wikipedia.


Now let's take a look at this little brother fixation that you have: Copied from an earlier post from me.


Fell free to answer either highlighted statement. If it were me, I'd just say "We are the undisputed champs", and move on your merry way.
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osubuckeye89 said:
So players sold/traded their own stuff for services? How did this affect anything on the field?
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Pretty much this. Nowhere close to apples/apples but hey, when you've actually cheated on the field, I guess this is what you have to do to rationalize it.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
So players sold/traded their own stuff for services? How did this affect anything on the field?
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Great recruiting tool. We are going to give you stuff that you can sell while your a student. Have any other teams done this?
 
Voltaire said:
Great recruiting tool. We are going to give you stuff that you can sell while your a student. Have any other teams done this?
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This had nothing to do with recruiting, these were players who had already been there for a couple of years.

You could maybe argue that handing bags of cash to recruits to get them there to begin with affected on the field things, but you are reaching here.
 
Across The Field said:
Pretty much this. Nowhere close to apples/apples but hey, when you've actually cheated on the field, I guess this is what you have to do to rationalize it.
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Yep, it's a big reach. Guys who had been on the team for a couple of years trading their own stuff for tattoos isnt even the same as if someone was funneling bags of cash to recruits to get them to jump on board. This did absolutely nothing for the on the field product,
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
That's the fun part though -- I don't care what other fans have to say. It's clear they don't get it. But I know Ohio State fans get it. I know it bothers the shit out of you that you finally win a national title, but did so in the worst way possible -- without beating Michigan. I'm fully aware what that sounds like to other fans "Win a national title in the worst way possible", but I absolutely know it cuts deep for Ohio State fans. Because I absolutely know it would bother the shit out of my if Michigan finally won a national title, but lost to Ohio State in doing so. Hell, it bothers me that we have a "split" title with Nebraska and fans have been talking about that for more than two decades. I know this is how OSU fans will feel about this for life, and that brings me joy because ultimately that's what rivalries are about .

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We're not bothered, maize. We really aren't. No matter how many times you try to will it into existence, losing to Michigan this past season doesnt really sting anymore. Any other year? Of course. But not this year. Winning the National championship cancelled out the loss to Michigan. It's the ONLY thing that can cancel out such a loss.
 
Across The Field said:
Thanks man, hell of a run that's for sure. Sorry about WVU's season falling short, but if RR can get them back to what they used to be, they could be at the top of the Big 12 in no time.
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I have hope my man. Hoping he has some new innovative ideas and can get us moving like we had the first time with him. Also I hope we actually field a defense this year.
 
Ojb81 said:
We're not bothered, maize. We really aren't. No matter how many times you try to will it into existence, losing to Michigan this past season doesnt really sting anymore. Any other year? Of course. But not this year. Winning the National championship cancelled out the loss to Michigan. It's the ONLY thing that can cancel out such a loss.
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I do have to agree. Winning the National Championship cures a lot of things.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
This had nothing to do with recruiting, these were players who had already been there for a couple of years.

You could maybe argue that handing bags of cash to recruits to get them there to begin with affected on the field things, but you are reaching here.
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In the first 20 years of the millenium, all I heard from Michigan fans is how Ohio State pays its players.

They paid Terrelle Pryor, the #1 recruit and #1 QB coming out of high school so much he had to trade autographs and trinkets for tattoos.
 
ralphiewvu said:
I have hope my man. Hoping he has some new innovative ideas and can get us moving like we had the first time with him. Also I hope we actually field a defense this year.
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I have faith. Rich Rod will make WVU a premiere program once more.
 
Voltaire said:
Great recruiting tool. We are going to give you stuff that you can sell while your a student. Have any other teams done this?
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Have any other teams cheated by stealing teams’ signs bc they are so desperate to win after two decades?

I have the answer if you don’t find it on google
 
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