NCAA Rumored To Be Coming Out With New NIL Guidelines- People Aren't Happy

[Deep Creek]

My favorite team could probably be OK in a system like that but why don't we just let the richest schools have 12 men on the field too while we're at it? Don't you realize how letting money become THE biggest factor in college football would ruin the sport? Nobody's knocking NIL but unrestricted free agency and no salary cap are a recipe for disaster.

I was being a little sarcastic. That said, I think the sport began being ruined when the amount of money started rolling in at an insane rate. It seemed like (and still does) that every decision and move was because of increased revenue ONLY. It was attempted to be rationalized by a bunch of blah, blah, blah. But that blah, blah, blah dog just don't hunt.

What is the time frame before Rutgers wins the B1G? 5 years? 25 years? Before Christ returns? Never?

And what is ironic is the vast majority of that money is really generated by only a handful of schools.

 

[trojanfan12]

I don't think so because it's no different than giving away products to influencers in order to drive sales. Beats is wanting everyone to see USC athletes walking around with their product on so it becomes the thing to do.

That's a legit strategy and not a bad one.

Yeah, at the time, my first thought was ''I hope that's not an issue'', but figured USC and Beats had lawyers who had looked at it.

But then, we also know that the NCAA likes to keep things vague enough that they can make just about anything a violation if they want it to be.

 

[Deep Creek]

Yeah, at the time, my first thought was ''I hope that's not an issue'', but figured USC and Beats had lawyers who had looked at it.

But then, we also know that the NCAA likes to keep things vague enough that they can make just about anything a violation if they want it to be.

Skinner's Constant aka Flannegan's Finagling Factor - That quantity which, when multiplied by, divided by, added to, or subtracted from the answer you get, gives you the answer you should have gotten.

 

[Thiefery]

Beats is a third party? Thought they dealt directly with Caleb's representatives, but that's a good question.. the gear he got for his teammates..is that a violation? I wouldn't think so but the NCAA is highly regarded

 

[trojanfan12]

Beats is a third party? Thought they dealt directly with Caleb's representatives, but that's a good question.. the gear he got for his teammates..is that a violation? I wouldn't think so but the NCAA is highly regarded

3rd party in that they aren't affiliated with the school (like a booster collective), so he didn't have to go to USC to get the deal.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

 

[Thiefery]

it hasn't flown under the radar at all.. This is why nobody was worrying about the numbers when it came to the portal.

 

[Goldbug]

The whole purpose of scholarship limits was to more evenly distribute talent and lower expenses. Now the expenses be damned and if a program wants to offer mucho $$$ to someone just to keep him from playing at another school (even though he may be buried in the depth chart) that is going to be hunky dory. I'm all for NIL but scholarship limits should be retained to widen the number of teams that could theoretically have the talent to win a NC. And no I'm not being a moss-backed reactionary forcing someone to toil for The Man against his wishes in involuntary servitude in a monopsony like some honks keep claiming.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

it hasn't flown under the radar at all.. This is why nobody was worrying about the numbers when it came to the portal.

Still have the 85 to worry about. In fact, the rules allowing the 25 counters to go away will be more stringent on the 85. They want to avoid the scenario where a team takes 35 players, putting them at 95 as an example, and then forcing 10 to leave. Right now many teams go over the 85 in the spring because the rules says you simply have to be at 85 when camp starts. What I have read is that getting rid of the 25 is so that a team at 70 because of transfers and NFL can reload to 85. Most really good teams already are good at managing the 85.

We couldn't dip into the portal this year because we had the 85 to deal with.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

The whole purpose of scholarship limits was to more evenly distribute talent and lower expenses. Now the expenses be damned and if a program wants to offer mucho $$$ to someone just to keep him from playing at another school (even though he may be buried in the depth chart) that is going to be hunky dory. I'm all for NIL but scholarship limits should be retained to widen the number of teams that could theoretically have the talent to win a NC. And no I'm not being a moss-backed reactionary forcing someone to toil for The Man against his wishes in involuntary servitude in a monopsony like some honks keep claiming.

The Athletic had a great article on this and made a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of getting rid of the 25 is to let teams who get killed by the transfer portal get back to 85. The rule changes with regard to the removal of limitations on scholarships for other sports, and allowing unlimited coaches, is actually pro-player. As the article pointed out, athletes get screwed by the partial scholly limits. 12 schollies for baseball is absurd if a school wants to offer more. Let all 30 some odd players be on scholarship if they want to be. That's pro player. Now, won't that make it so some teams do better? Sure the SEC has more money and less sports than the PAC as an example. But, doing this allows certain schools to concentrate on sports where they think they can be competitive. NC State, as an example, can choose to jack up scholarships in baseball (and softball - Title IX), and become a baseball powerhouse of they want. This is all pro player which is key for Alston.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Title IX isn’t going anywhere and these teams can’t just load their rosters or they have to create more women’d scholarships as well. Serious money trying to balance that. I could be wrong but I don’t think you are going to see 100 player deep rosters anytime soon even if limits go away.

1. It’s tough to manage that many kids, get them in the weight room, get them reps in practice etc.

2. It would just make the portal that much crazier.

3. Raise the odds of more bad apples and more issues.

Yeah the Bama’s of the world grab 5 to 6 more guys but they lose the same amount in the portal.

 

[Goldbug]

The Athletic had a great article on this and made a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of getting rid of the 25 is to let teams who get killed by the transfer portal get back to 85. The rule changes with regard to the removal of limitations on scholarships for other sports, and allowing unlimited coaches, is actually pro-player. As the article pointed out, athletes get screwed by the partial scholly limits. 12 schollies for baseball is absurd if a school wants to offer more. Let all 30 some odd players be on scholarship if they want to be. That's pro player. Now, won't that make it so some teams do better? Sure the SEC has more money and less sports than the PAC as an example. But, doing this allows certain schools to concentrate on sports where they think they can be competitive. NC State, as an example, can choose to jack up scholarships in baseball (and softball - Title IX), and become a baseball powerhouse of they want. This is all pro player which is key for Alston.

You can sign players now like a mofo if you're under the 85 player limit. USC has been doing that. I much prefer to keep the 85 limit in football to keep some teams from signing 90+ players. As for the other sports, they are needing more scholarships. It's rediculous that a team has to divvy up a paltry number of scholarhips for a sport like baseball.

 

[Thiefery]

Still have the 85 to worry about. In fact, the rules allowing the 25 counters to go away will be more stringent on the 85. They want to avoid the scenario where a team takes 35 players, putting them at 95 as an example, and then forcing 10 to leave. Right now many teams go over the 85 in the spring because the rules says you simply have to be at 85 when camp starts. What I have read is that getting rid of the 25 is so that a team at 70 because of transfers and NFL can reload to 85. Most really good teams already are good at managing the 85.

We couldn't dip into the portal this year because we had the 85 to deal with.

that's the thing.. players will now get pushed out. So far I think UT has added 35 players in just this off season so far. They have been actively telling players on the current roster where they stand, which is why they had like 8 transfers since the beginning of Spring practices

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

that's the thing.. players will now get pushed out. So far I think UT has added 35 players in just this off season so far. They have been actively telling players on the current roster where they stand, which is why they had like 8 transfers since the beginning of Spring practices

Oh, I get the idea of "processing" players. Saban is the master, and Smart learned from him. The most you can add legally is 32, unless this new rule comes into play. If you really added 35 that could be problematic. That said, it always looks like we are or will be over our numbers but it never happens. So I am not saying there is anything bad going on. Plus it looks like the new rule is going to pass.

 

[Deep Creek]

The Athletic had a great article on this and made a point I hadn't thought of. The idea of getting rid of the 25 is to let teams who get killed by the transfer portal get back to 85. The rule changes with regard to the removal of limitations on scholarships for other sports, and allowing unlimited coaches, is actually pro-player. As the article pointed out, athletes get screwed by the partial scholly limits. 12 schollies for baseball is absurd if a school wants to offer more. Let all 30 some odd players be on scholarship if they want to be. That's pro player. Now, won't that make it so some teams do better? Sure the SEC has more money and less sports than the PAC as an example. But, doing this allows certain schools to concentrate on sports where they think they can be competitive. NC State, as an example, can choose to jack up scholarships in baseball (and softball - Title IX), and become a baseball powerhouse of they want. This is all pro player which is key for Alston.

I think this is what will happen. Thing is there are still going to be many that think they can compete in all of them which is a pipe dream. How many SEC championships does Mizzou have in all the sports combined since joining the SEC? Hell, how many did they have in the Big 12 prior to that?

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I think this is what will happen. Thing is there are still going to be many that think they can compete in all of them which is a pipe dream. How many SEC championships does Mizzou have in all the sports combined since joining the SEC? Hell, how many did they have in the Big 12 prior to that?

I can see Vanderbilt going all in on baseball and basketball, while continuing to try better at football. We also just added women's volleyball. Brainiac schools could focus on those types of sports.

 

[Deep Creek]

I can see Vanderbilt going all in on baseball and basketball, while continuing to try better at football. We also just added women's volleyball. Brainiac schools could focus on those types of sports.

Vanderbilt has won some conference championships in some sports. Some schools haven't won in anything in forever. My Miners included! We used to win ccs in hoops and track. Now we don't win shit.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Vanderbilt has won some conference championships in some sports. Some schools haven't won in anything in forever. My Miners included! We used to win ccs in hoops and track. Now we don't win shit.

We were just runners up in women's bowling, dang it.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Auburn hosts Memphis transfer on visit

Morris Joseph is currently committed to Georgia Tech but has been visiting other schools.

sports.yahoo.com

Joseph is one of the more interesting transfers that the Tigers have reached out to. Joseph committed to Georgia Tech back in March, and that commitment came just several weeks after he entered his name into the transfer portal. Since he didn’t officially sign with the program, he has the choice on whether or not to visit other programs. The two schools that he has since visited are Arkansas and Auburn. He has since stated via his Twitter that “his decision is a business decision.” That may lead many to believe that he will be playing somewhere other than Georgia Tech.

Let me translate: Whoever gives me the most NIL money I'm going to play for them. Now if you ask him no doubt he is going to claim that it is all about who will help him get to the NFL but we know this guy has just made himself a mercenary.

Just an example of why my interest is wavering at this point. Is getting this kid even worth this BS? Honestly, I don't think so.

 

[Thiefery]

Auburn hosts Memphis transfer on visit

Morris Joseph is currently committed to Georgia Tech but has been visiting other schools.

sports.yahoo.com

Joseph is one of the more interesting transfers that the Tigers have reached out to. Joseph committed to Georgia Tech back in March, and that commitment came just several weeks after he entered his name into the transfer portal. Since he didn’t officially sign with the program, he has the choice on whether or not to visit other programs. The two schools that he has since visited are Arkansas and Auburn. He has since stated via his Twitter that “his decision is a business decision.” That may lead many to believe that he will be playing somewhere other than Georgia Tech.

Let me translate: Whoever gives me the most NIL money I'm going to play for them. Now if you ask him no doubt he is going to claim that it is all about who will help him get to the NFL but we know this guy has just made himself a mercenary.

Just an example of why my interest is wavering at this point. Is getting this kid even worth this BS? Honestly, I don't think so.

business decision doesn't mean just money.. Arkansas and Auburn are a STEPS above GaTech. If they offered, you have to listen, no?