NCAA still allowing men to participate on women teams

williewilliejuan said:
The women’s record for the 100 m dash is 10.49 seconds, a record that has stood for 37 years. That time wouldn’t get a man out of the first round. How could that be if there was no difference between biological males and biological females?
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I never said there was no physical difference between males and females. Dumb strawman.
 
Selkies ftw said:
If you are referring to Lia Thomas she set men’s records in 5 different categories at Penn, finished second in men’s Ivy league championships both years, and was ranked in the top 100 nationally in 3 categories. All before transitioning, and after doing so was significantly slower in every style. You don’t even know anything about the people you hate lol
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He won nothing as a male swimming, wins everything as a female.
Your BS cherry picked "study" is just that, bullshit.
 
fordman84 said:
He won nothing as a male swimming, wins everything as a female.
Your BS cherry picked "study" is just that, bullshit.
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He’s comparing things he did at the Ivy League level as a male to things he did at the NCAA level as a woman. He’s being completely disingenuous.
 
williewilliejuan said:
Biologically, they are. Biology is the reason for different categories in sport. Any more disingenuous arguments you’d like to make?
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You do understand how transitioning changes the body right?
 
Selkies ftw said:
You do understand how transitioning changes the body right?
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It doesn't change things after puberty, and to give a prepubescent child any sort of drug or surgery that transitions them is not only morally repugnant, but also thankfully now illegal. You have lost.
 
fordman84 said:
He won nothing as a male swimming, wins everything as a female.
Your BS cherry picked "study" is just that, bullshit.
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There were only 5 men in the NCAA with a faster 1000m freestyle her freshman year. And she didn’t win everything competing in women’s categories. She won a single event at a NCAA championship in 2022, she came in 6th in Ivy League championships the same year. Another woman broke 18 NCAA records at that NCAA championship, and not a single one of you could tell me her name without looking it up because you don’t care about women’s sports, you just hate trans people.
 
williewilliejuan said:
You do understand that no two “transitions” are the same and neither do they undo the physical advantages conveyed by male puberty, right?
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They actually do, which was proven in the study I showed you.
 
Selkies ftw said:
If you are referring to Lia Thomas she set men’s records in 5 different categories at Penn, finished second in men’s Ivy league championships both years, and was ranked in the top 100 nationally in 3 categories. All before transitioning, and after doing so was significantly slower in every style. You don’t even know anything about the people you hate lol
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He was a middling swimmer in male categories at his level. He was absolutely dominating in women categories. He didn't have to try as hard in the women categories so he didn't go quite as fast. He still broke Katie Ledecky records.
 
Selkies ftw said:
There were only 5 men in the NCAA with a faster 1000m freestyle her freshman year. And she didn’t win everything competing in women’s categories. She won a single event at a NCAA championship in 2022, she came in 6th in Ivy League championships the same year. Another woman broke 18 NCAA records at that NCAA championship, and not a single one of you could tell me her name without looking it up because you don’t care about women’s sports, you just hate trans people.
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To recap…didn’t win anything at the NCAA level as man, swam slower as a woman and won and yet you see no advantage to swimming as a woman?
 
williewilliejuan said:
To recap…didn’t win anything at the NCAA level as man, swam slower as a woman and won and yet you see no advantage to swimming as a woman?
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Why was it a cis woman who broke 18 NCAA records and not Lia if she had such an advantage?
 
SU Nittany Tide said:
He still broke Katie Ledecky records.
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That’s not even close to being true lol you are out here actually erasing women’s accomplishments while claiming to defend them
 
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