I’ll buy the recruiting angle. But if anyone thinks having UTSA and Texas State in the conference will increase viewership/media revenue significantly, I’ve got some oceanfront property in far West Texas to sell them.
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Does UTSA have a bunch a big donors willing to shell out to leave? They are in the AAC which requires a 27 month notice or a large exit fee. So unless they are going to join in 2027 I don’t think UTSA is leaving. And if it’s like that I’d think the PAC would prefer Memphis and Tulane who are in the exact same conference.
I'm not sure but I doubt they do. They are a relatively "new" university so their alumni shouldn't be that large. They didn't even exist until the early 70s or something like that. Their enrollment continues to increase. I think they are up to about 35,000 now.
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i cant find anything on sunbelt notice but google says 5Mil exit.
even for 27 i believe the 27 months notice is already passed so not sure about all that.
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Media rights, expansion next for Pac-12 after House settlement: 'We’re starting with a blank slate in the middle of this'
could be a Jun 15th deadline on the media deal. tho we have heard that before on the same topic albeit from different past sources.
but if it is, that could mean that within the next week or so we could hear about expansion. there has been more talk about TX ST but less so other schools.
could be a Jun 15th deadline on the media deal. tho we have heard that before on the same topic albeit from different past sources.
but if it is, that could mean that within the next week or so we could hear about expansion. there has been more talk about TX ST but less so other schools.
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For Texas St a reason they are considered/the fav to be added per Twitter (lol) is because of how little the buyout is. A five million dollar buyout which is probably correct can likely be paid off after they get their first PAC media + CFP money +other check. Some folks are guessing it could be around 12 million just for media alone to each member of this new PAC. And that $5 million owed doesn’t likely factor what the SBC will withhold from Texas St from the past year.
UTSA is likely 2027 if it happens.
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I think they’ll almost have to add someone before July 1 and likely announce their media deal then too.
Can't wait until they figure out the travel costs. That B1G payment mitigates it for USC/UCLA/Oregon/Washington. Don't see the new PAC 12 amounts mitigating it much. And football isn't the problem.
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Yeah that was a big reason that Memphis (who seems like they want to join) couldn’t. I know Memphis (per Twitter lol) explored going the PAC for football only and trying to put everything else in the BE but they said no. Thing is though Memphis got paid $11 million last year from the AAC media deal without that western travel. They may not get more than that even at a full share from the PAC.
I know they initially wanted to go with Tulane but if I’m Tulane I’m waiting to see what happens with the ACC. When a few teams bail I could see Stanford trying to turn it into an academia centric conference that also has some decent football. Tulane and USF both fit the bill academically and then ultimately the goal would be for ND if they ever have to join a conference for football to join the ACC.
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Perhaps the BE isn’t a NO on Memphis everything but football. Hmmmmm
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College realignment intel: Texas State, cryptic posts and the Pac-12's next move
Texas State looms as the favorite to join the Pac-12. Why could that happen? What would come next? And what about Memphis?
That could be the Big East's position. They seem to have a pretty cozy/tight knit group of private schools...sans UConn. But as much as schools seem to chase the dollar, they'd probably let them in if adding Memphis increased the media offer where ALL the schools get a fatter check.Perhaps the BE isn’t a NO on Memphis everything but football. Hmmmmm
College realignment intel: Texas State, cryptic posts and the Pac-12's next move
Texas State looms as the favorite to join the Pac-12. Why could that happen? What would come next? And what about Memphis?
I found this part of the article interesting. I'm sure Texas State alum George Strait could come up with the exit fee so I don't see that as a big issue. But taking less than a full share to begin with seems to be one.
"The exit fee looms as a significant motivator, as Texas State would join to start the 2026 season.
What would an offer look like? Well, Damphousse's social media hinted at the expectations of that again. In April, he tweeted about his love of lobster bisque: "People sometimes think that I'd be happy with half a bowl of soup. After all, a cup of soup is better than no soup at all. But for me, it's a full bowl or nothing."
That line was in response to speculation that Texas State would go to the Pac-12 for part of a media share. It appears Damphousse desires a full one."
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the other thing to remember that could still make UTSA a 26 possibility is that what ever the exit fee is there is likely a negotiated discount as well as it isnt a 1 time pay now lump sum and could be broken down across many years.
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pretty sure July 1 is the deadline or rather the day before.
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i dont think that will be as big of a problem as people think smaller schools with less money have been doing it for years.
My guys have been traveling to Florida and points East. But hell, it is 600-700 miles to Dallas andHouston. Who else travels that far in small conferences?
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You kind of answered your own question. UTEP to the east isnt really all that different than Tx State to the west is it?
UTEP to FIU is just under 2k. San Marcos to Pullman roughly the same.
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creighton in the Big East. Farthest school Prov RI is like 1500
SMU is doing it without getting the same money as the rest of the ACC. but they have deep pockets apparently.
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D2 Why are Western Oregon and Central Washington in the Lone Star instead of the Rocky Mountain? or even Northern Sun
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Western Oregon and Central Oregon are in the Lone Star Conference for football only.
I said all along, football travel isn’t an issue for any of them.
Viewership and media revenue is irrelevant to the expansion. The media revenue is going to be the same whether they get Texas State, UNLV or if UCLA came back. ESPN, CBS and most likely WBD are just buying content/time slot.
There are two reasons UTSA and Texas State are even an option and it’s making it easier to recruit Texas 2 star recruits and they won’t be competitive at first and won’t be full share members at first like UNLV would be.