New SEC Alignment

[WhosYourDawggy]

From a conference perspective, the SEC doesn't look at last 10-15 years but all-time potential. Sure, Tennessee has struggled (along with Texas who is on the list) but both would be seen as top 10 all-time programs by the SEC and would be treated as tier 1.

Take the 2015 and 2016 teams. They were loaded with talent which shows that:

1. Tennessee still can recruit
2. Tennessee is still a brand name
3. Tennessee can still win at a high level

Take Butch Jones and put even average coaches like Gus Malzahn or Sam Pittman at the helm and those Tennessee teams likely win the East and make playoffs.

Georgia got lucky with Kirby Smart. Say they had hired Pruitt, you guys would be in the same boat as Tennessee right now.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I thought the discussion was - if we are building pods and want to maintain balance, how do you do that. If that's not the discussion, then I will bow out.

But, if that is the discussion then nothing you typed above is relevant. You don't look at a teams all-time record to determine whether they are currently top tier or not. If I asked 100 knowledgeable CFB fans to name the top schools today, none would say Tenn. Your school, due to administrative malfeasance, has been a mess for the past 15 years. Nothing they have done recently would make me or any objective viewer think otherwise. Hell, you don't even know what penalties are going to be handed down by the feckless NCAA. What we do know, for an absolute fact, is the Tenn has not been a competitive team in the SEC or on a national scale since Fulmer was fired. There isn't a college recruit today that was alive when your school was relevant. I don't say that to be mean, or as an rival fan trolling you ... it's just the truth when having these types of discussions. I think that the SEC is better with a really good Tenn, just like I think all of CFB is better when NE, UM, USC, UCLA, etc., are good. But if we are setting up tiers to evaluate balanced pods, what you did 20, 40, or 60 years ago is irrelevant.

In a pod system, would I rather have UF or Tenn in my pod? UT every day. Sure you might finally figure things out, but if you have access to the future and you put a gun to my head and ask which program will be more relevant in the future, UF or Tenn, I'm going UF. And that's even more true if we look at current performance. There is no reason to believe you've found the coach that will turn things around. Maybe he does, but there are no guarantees, and he has to deal with NCAA and your administration that is just as likely to fuck things up as make them good.

Finally, I suppose there is always some luck with finding a good coach. But, it's obvious that we have a well oiled functional athletic department that would never have hired Pruitt as a HC in a million years. Never mind all the other hiring debacles you've had, Fulmer as AD, presidents fired, and dozens of coaches run through before settling on your 12th option. Again, not saying this to troll a rival ... this is all well documented and you know it to be true. We had 15 years of Richt with results 98% of CFB would love to have had. We decided to move on and Smart was the only one considered, interviewed and hired. He hasn't delivered a NC yet, but everyone except maybe 2 or 3 teams would trade coaches with us today. Maybe some of that is luck, but you haven't just had bad luck, you've been totally dysfunctional.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Dude there aren’t any power brokers in reality within the SEC. Everyone has an equal vote and a perfect example is the other schools making Auburn and Alabama move their game to the week before the SEC Championship instead of using that week as a bye. The vote was 12-2 and Bama and Auburn had to move and that’s why for the last 5 years both have played cupcakes the week before they played as the league screwed both our schedules.

It didn’t matter that the other schools could arrange their schedules the same all that mattered is they didn’t want us doing it.

Clout is grossly over rated in the SEC and Texas is going to be frustrated as hell when Ole Miss and Miss State get a say in what they do. It will be fun.

Wait until they get trumped by Vanderbilt. Oh, wait, Vandy is the only school Texas has a losing record against. They are used to Vandy being their daddy.

 

[Thiefery]

Wait until they get trumped by Vanderbilt. Oh, wait, Vandy is the only school Texas has a losing record against. They are used to Vandy being their daddy.

But overall we are the SEC daddy.. including your daddy bama (7-1-1)

obligatory,

 

[Volbound1700]

We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I thought the discussion was - if we are building pods and want to maintain balance, how do you do that. If that's not the discussion, then I will bow out.

But, if that is the discussion then nothing you typed above is relevant. You don't look at a teams all-time record to determine whether they are currently top tier or not. If I asked 100 knowledgeable CFB fans to name the top schools today, none would say Tenn. Your school, due to administrative malfeasance, has been a mess for the past 15 years. Nothing they have done recently would make me or any objective viewer think otherwise. Hell, you don't even know what penalties are going to be handed down by the feckless NCAA. What we do know, for an absolute fact, is the Tenn has not been a competitive team in the SEC or on a national scale since Fulmer was fired. There isn't a college recruit today that was alive when your school was relevant. I don't say that to be mean, or as an rival fan trolling you ... it's just the truth when having these types of discussions. I think that the SEC is better with a really good Tenn, just like I think all of CFB is better when NE, UM, USC, UCLA, etc., are good. But if we are setting up tiers to evaluate balanced pods, what you did 20, 40, or 60 years ago is irrelevant.

In a pod system, would I rather have UF or Tenn in my pod? UT every day. Sure you might finally figure things out, but if you have access to the future and you put a gun to my head and ask which program will be more relevant in the future, UF or Tenn, I'm going UF. And that's even more true if we look at current performance. There is no reason to believe you've found the coach that will turn things around. Maybe he does, but there are no guarantees, and he has to deal with NCAA and your administration that is just as likely to fuck things up as make them good.

Finally, I suppose there is always some luck with finding a good coach. But, it's obvious that we have a well oiled functional athletic department that would never have hired Pruitt as a HC in a million years. Never mind all the other hiring debacles you've had, Fulmer as AD, presidents fired, and dozens of coaches run through before settling on your 12th option. Again, not saying this to troll a rival ... this is all well documented and you know it to be true. We had 15 years of Richt with results 98% of CFB would love to have had. We decided to move on and Smart was the only one considered, interviewed and hired. He hasn't delivered a NC yet, but everyone except maybe 2 or 3 teams would trade coaches with us today. Maybe some of that is luck, but you haven't just had bad luck, you've been totally dysfunctional.

I already pointed out how short-sighted your view is and I know the SEC doesn't look at it that way. Make this same sampling in 2000 based on your thought process and both Alabama and LSU would be in your "tier 2" category. Look it up.

LSU was absolute trash most of the 1980s and 1990s and look at them now. In fact their draught was as long as Tennessee's.

 

[Volbound1700]

no name FCS schools are the most scariest?? The ones that are scheduled the week before the regular season ending rivalry games?

Based on Saban's comments, that seems to be his reaction. Go read the fit that he threw about playing Mercer and how it was hard to get his players excited about the game.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I already pointed out how short-sighted your view is and I know the SEC doesn't look at it that way. Make this same sampling in 2000 based on your thought process and both Alabama and LSU would be in your "tier 2" category. Look it up.

LSU was absolute trash most of the 1980s and 1990s and look at them now. In fact their draught was as long as Tennessee's.

My view isn't short-sighted at all. It reflects the reality of the day. If they are going to do pods, and UTjr is going to be considered a power, please put them in my pod. Please. I'll take the risk that you might get good again one day.

Again, what you or LSU did 40 years ago isn't relevant.

As for pods, my guess is there will be a mechanism to balance things should a single pod get unbalanced. We we all know that CFB is cyclical.

How do you know the SEC doesn't look at it that way? Do you really think someone in the SEC says, "put TN in that pod ... they suck now, but they might be great in a few years?" That conversation isn't happening.

 

[Volbound1700]

My view isn't short-sighted at all. It reflects the reality of the day. If they are going to do pods, and UTjr is going to be considered a power, please put them in my pod. Please. I'll take the risk that you might get good again one day.

Again, what you or LSU did 40 years ago isn't relevant.

As for pods, my guess is there will be a mechanism to balance things should a single pod get unbalanced. We we all know that CFB is cyclical.

How do you know the SEC doesn't look at it that way? Do you really think someone in the SEC says, "put TN in that pod ... they suck now, but they might be great in a few years?" That conversation isn't happening.

There you go with the highlighted section. The best way to judge a program is its overall prestige and performance. CFB is cyclical so a program that is in the top 10 today could be 3-9 tomorrow.

Also, if you want to be truthful, programs like Auburn in 2012 have had a WORSE season than Tennessee has had in its history. Tennessee has never lost 9 games and has only lost 8 games once ever (in 2017). Are you going to judge Auburn for 2012?

Alabama was 4-9 in 2003 and 3-8 in 2000. That was this Millenia. Are we going to judge Alabama based on those seasons? Both are worse seasons than anything Tennessee has done in its history.

Even with Tennessee's struggles, it is still considered a big game by most teams, including even Georgia. I know because your fans always get up tight and excited about playing Tennessee. Even your posts seem to be driven more by your rivalry against Tennessee than logic with the whole UTjr crap. Hell we beat you guys in 2015 and 2016 and were a fumble in the end zone away from beating UGA in 2014. Even last year, we probably had you nervous at halftime with one of our worse teams. We have struggled but we haven't hit rock bottom yet with 3-9, 2-10 records like many of the other SEC schools in the league.

Don't get me wrong, I love posting with a lot of you guys and I appreciate the discussion but I am glad most of you are not power brokers for the sport because it would be all screwed up right now.

Heck with your logic, Tennessee should just leave the SEC and go play in the ACC. You remind me of Lee Corso on GameDay back in the early 2000s who said "Bear Bryant is dead and Alabama would never get back to that level." That was literally one of his comments. I am sure he is eating those words today.

 

[Wild Turkey]

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There you go with the highlighted section. The best way to judge a program is its overall prestige and performance. CFB is cyclical so a program that is in the top 10 today could be 3-9 tomorrow.

Also, if you want to be truthful, programs like Auburn in 2012 have had a WORSE season than Tennessee has had in its history. Tennessee has never lost 9 games and has only lost 8 games once ever (in 2017). Are you going to judge Auburn for 2012?

Alabama was 4-9 in 2003 and 3-8 in 2000. That was this Millenia. Are we going to judge Alabama based on those seasons? Both are worse seasons than anything Tennessee has done in its history.

Even with Tennessee's struggles, it is still considered a big game by most teams, including even Georgia. I know because your fans always get up tight and excited about playing Tennessee. Even your posts seem to be driven more by your rivalry against Tennessee than logic with the whole UTjr crap. Hell we beat you guys in 2015 and 2016 and were a fumble in the end zone away from beating UGA in 2014. Even last year, we probably had you nervous at halftime with one of our worse teams. We have struggled but we haven't hit rock bottom yet with 3-9, 2-10 records like many of the other SEC schools in the league.

Don't get me wrong, I love posting with a lot of you guys and I appreciate the discussion but I am glad most of you are not power brokers for the sport because it would be all screwed up right now.

Heck with your logic, Tennessee should just leave the SEC and go play in the ACC. You remind me of Lee Corso on GameDay back in the early 2000s who said "Bear Bryant is dead and Alabama would never get back to that level." That was literally one of his comments. I am sure he is eating those words today.

Yes he will judge Auburn 2012 even though we played for a national championship in 2013.

His rationale is that “Auburn is natty or bust” and evidently that isn’t acceptable. However I’m going to tell you that I will gladly take the lows to get those highs as long as the time span isn’t crazy in between.

The truth is Auburn makes a run about every 10 years:

1983 - Got screwed and Bama would have been voted champ.

1993 - Undefeated but on probabtion so our fault.

2004 - Undefeated and the main reason we have a playoff today.

2010 - Won

2013 - Came up just a tad short

2017 - Ran out of gas and bodies we simply didn’t have the stamina to finish. Unbelievable effort because the guys playing hurt was ridiculous but great year and SEC West Champs.

No one in the entire country has beaten Bama like we have except maybe Clemson and let’s face it right now they are measuring stick.

If anything Auburn has over performed and proven themselves through multiple decades and rarely been irrelevant.

Georgia has nothing on us. They are better right now but that will pass as it always does.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

There you go with the highlighted section. The best way to judge a program is its overall prestige and performance. CFB is cyclical so a program that is in the top 10 today could be 3-9 tomorrow.

Also, if you want to be truthful, programs like Auburn in 2012 have had a WORSE season than Tennessee has had in its history. Tennessee has never lost 9 games and has only lost 8 games once ever (in 2017). Are you going to judge Auburn for 2012?

Alabama was 4-9 in 2003 and 3-8 in 2000. That was this Millenia. Are we going to judge Alabama based on those seasons? Both are worse seasons than anything Tennessee has done in its history.

Even with Tennessee's struggles, it is still considered a big game by most teams, including even Georgia. I know because your fans always get up tight and excited about playing Tennessee. Even your posts seem to be driven more by your rivalry against Tennessee than logic with the whole UTjr crap. Hell we beat you guys in 2015 and 2016 and were a fumble in the end zone away from beating UGA in 2014. Even last year, we probably had you nervous at halftime with one of our worse teams. We have struggled but we haven't hit rock bottom yet with 3-9, 2-10 records like many of the other SEC schools in the league.

Don't get me wrong, I love posting with a lot of you guys and I appreciate the discussion but I am glad most of you are not power brokers for the sport because it would be all screwed up right now.

Heck with your logic, Tennessee should just leave the SEC and go play in the ACC. You remind me of Lee Corso on GameDay back in the early 2000s who said "Bear Bryant is dead and Alabama would never get back to that level." That was literally one of his comments. I am sure he is eating those words today.

Stop with the hyperbole ... no one is saying your should leave the SEC. What I am saying is simple ... it we are deciding on balanced pods TODAY, then Tenn would not and should not be considered a top tier team. They haven't been for over a decade. You don't look at a team's 100 year history to decide of they are top tier TODAY.

As for Auburn, you read the posts that I made about Auburn, and I did point out their 2012 season, and the fact that they are feast or famine. And you will note I don't have them in the top tier for that very reason.

You beat us at the end of Richt's 15 years, and that is one reason he was fired. Against your 3 main rivals the last 15 or so years you've been dominated - Bama 0-14, UF 1-16, UGA 3-10. I've not been nervous about a game against you since Smart arrived. It's a big game because you are one of our main rivals, historically. But, none of that has anything to do with the Tier you are in TODAY.

We agree on one thing and that CFB is cyclical. It's why I said that there will likely be a balancing mechanism in pods. Your pointing out how bad Bama and LSU has been in the past, how bad you've been recently, and I'll throw how down we were in the late 80s and 90s, is why there should be a balancing mechanism. That cuts against your argument that your historical record means something in determining balance TODAY.

Finally, you saying we should judge Bama by what they did in 2000 and 2004 cuts against your argument. Of course we shouldn't. They are the best dynasty in all of college sports, ever. Like I've been saying, who cares what they did in 2000, same as who cares how good you were in the 90s. None of that matters for TODAY.

I am actually surprise at how you've taken my point ... it's not like anything I am saying should be in any way controversial. You can't in any way be happy with your team for the last decade+. You can't deny that your administration has been an embarrassment. That has lead you to where you are today ... all that is factual, not some rival trying to troll you. I have a bunch of really good Vol friends ... 2 or 3 are in the best friend category. None of what I have been typing is out of animus toward UTjr (which is used in jest). It simply seems really factual for the subject we are discussing. Feel free to take the last word.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

His rationale is that “Auburn is natty or bust” and evidently that isn’t acceptable. However I’m going to tell you that I will gladly take the lows to get those highs as long as the time span isn’t crazy in between.

Georgia has nothing on us. They are better right now but that will pass as it always does.

As to the first point above, I've always wondered about that. LSU has to be wondering the same thing. Are you better off being consistently good, but not reaching the top. Or, reaching the top only to crash to the bottom. I actually have some experience with this ... I was a Brave STH from 1990 - 2004 when we won the 14 straight division championships and played in a bunch of WS, but only won 1. In that same time, the Marlins won 2 WS, but basically sucked the rest of the time. As a Braves fan, I have always said I would rather have been a Braves fan without the ups and downs, knowing we are going to win most of the games I go to, rather than be really good, then really bad. But, I can see both sides.

We agree CFB is cyclical. We don't agree that Georgia has nothing on you ... ffs, we've beaten you 13 of the last 16 times we've played. That's literally "having something on you." Once again, I have experience with this. In the mid-70s to the late 80s, UGA won, ironically, 13 of 16 from UF. There was a nice 6 year run of wins that included my time in law school. Then, UF absolutely owned our ass, winning 18 of 21. It was disgusting and disheartening. So, yeah, I've been there on both sides ... we got plenty on your right now, and it's no fun for you unless you are lying to yourself. I know that from experience.

 

[Wild Turkey]

As to the first point above, I've always wondered about that. LSU has to be wondering the same thing. Are you better off being consistently good, but not reaching the top. Or, reaching the top only to crash to the bottom. I actually have some experience with this ... I was a Brave STH from 1990 - 2004 when we won the 14 straight division championships and played in a bunch of WS, but only won 1. In that same time, the Marlins won 2 WS, but basically sucked the rest of the time. As a Braves fan, I have always said I would rather have been a Braves fan without the ups and downs, knowing we are going to win most of the games I go to, rather than be really good, then really bad. But, I can see both sides.

We agree CFB is cyclical. We don't agree that Georgia has nothing on you ... ffs, we've beaten you 13 of the last 16 times we've played. That's literally "having something on you." Once again, I have experience with this. In the mid-70s to the late 80s, UGA won, ironically, 13 of 16 from UF. There was a nice 6 year run of wins that included my time in law school. Then, UF absolutely owned our ass, winning 18 of 21. It was disgusting and disheartening. So, yeah, I've been there on both sides ... we got plenty on your right now, and it's no fun for you unless you are lying to yourself. I know that from experience.

I’d rather be us than you. You are looking at primarilyone stat that is heavily Malzahn centered. I can live with the Auburn vs Georgia record because of what we have accomplished and that has surpassed what you have.

We both have 3 SEC titles since the championship game was established. However your last one wouldn’t have happened without us taking out Bama. We played Georgia/Bama/Georgia back to back to back and it just wore us down to nothing. We played the Peach bowl with one back at 70% and our o-line on life support. I was proud of their effort.

Auburn has a natty in that time period and played for another. You’ve made the playoffs once and again we basically put you there.

Your children don’t know what it’s like to say I’m a national champion but my kids got to buy the gear and wear it to school.

Plus we have Kick 6 and Prayer in Jordan Hare. The magic of 2010 and 2013 isn’t something you’ve ever experienced. 2013 alone crushing the hearts of your two biggest rivals and leaving them in a trail of tears.

Nope no way I trade.

 

[Volbound1700]

Stop with the hyperbole ... no one is saying your should leave the SEC. What I am saying is simple ... it we are deciding on balanced pods TODAY, then Tenn would not and should not be considered a top tier team. They haven't been for over a decade. You don't look at a team's 100 year history to decide of they are top tier TODAY.

As for Auburn, you read the posts that I made about Auburn, and I did point out their 2012 season, and the fact that they are feast or famine. And you will note I don't have them in the top tier for that very reason.

You beat us at the end of Richt's 15 years, and that is one reason he was fired. Against your 3 main rivals the last 15 or so years you've been dominated - Bama 0-14, UF 1-16, UGA 3-10. I've not been nervous about a game against you since Smart arrived. It's a big game because you are one of our main rivals, historically. But, none of that has anything to do with the Tier you are in TODAY.

We agree on one thing and that CFB is cyclical. It's why I said that there will likely be a balancing mechanism in pods. Your pointing out how bad Bama and LSU has been in the past, how bad you've been recently, and I'll throw how down we were in the late 80s and 90s, is why there should be a balancing mechanism. That cuts against your argument that your historical record means something in determining balance TODAY.

Finally, you saying we should judge Bama by what they did in 2000 and 2004 cuts against your argument. Of course we shouldn't. They are the best dynasty in all of college sports, ever. Like I've been saying, who cares what they did in 2000, same as who cares how good you were in the 90s. None of that matters for TODAY.

I am actually surprise at how you've taken my point ... it's not like anything I am saying should be in any way controversial. You can't in any way be happy with your team for the last decade+. You can't deny that your administration has been an embarrassment. That has lead you to where you are today ... all that is factual, not some rival trying to troll you. I have a bunch of really good Vol friends ... 2 or 3 are in the best friend category. None of what I have been typing is out of animus toward UTjr (which is used in jest). It simply seems really factual for the subject we are discussing. Feel free to take the last word.

My point about Alabama and LSU went over your head though. If we use your logic, Alabama and LSU would have been tier 2 in 2000. LSU showed nothing to point to the fact they would start one of the best run in school history that resulted in 3 National Titles and Alabama did not look anything like the program Saban would build them into.

So using your logic, you would have framed pods that would have had Alabama and LSU as tier 2 teams only to see within 2-3 years (more like 8 for Alabama) of this setup, both programs would start to get back to ELITE level. Tennessee would also be tier 1 in 2000 only to fall out.

Who knows, Tennessee could beat beating Georgia in 2-3 years and be back to 1990s level. It is extremely doubtful but that is how CFB works (I really don't think Tennessee will get back to winning at a high level until Saban is gone. I think Alabama's rise has also hurt Tennessee although poor administrative decisions was the MAIN culprit).

 

[Wild Turkey]

As to the first point above, I've always wondered about that. LSU has to be wondering the same thing. Are you better off being consistently good, but not reaching the top. Or, reaching the top only to crash to the bottom. I actually have some experience with this ... I was a Brave STH from 1990 - 2004 when we won the 14 straight division championships and played in a bunch of WS, but only won 1. In that same time, the Marlins won 2 WS, but basically sucked the rest of the time. As a Braves fan, I have always said I would rather have been a Braves fan without the ups and downs, knowing we are going to win most of the games I go to, rather than be really good, then really bad. But, I can see both sides.

We agree CFB is cyclical. We don't agree that Georgia has nothing on you ... ffs, we've beaten you 13 of the last 16 times we've played. That's literally "having something on you." Once again, I have experience with this. In the mid-70s to the late 80s, UGA won, ironically, 13 of 16 from UF. There was a nice 6 year run of wins that included my time in law school. Then, UF absolutely owned our ass, winning 18 of 21. It was disgusting and disheartening. So, yeah, I've been there on both sides ... we got plenty on your right now, and it's no fun for you unless you are lying to yourself. I know that from experience.

Have you ever pondered that in the one national championship game you played in during the playoff era that you blew a 14 point lead and ran off the QB that was your best hope of winning one? I mean that has to sting a 40-year drought that was ruined by bad coaching and you watched the best QB to come through your system since Stafford transfer.

I wouldn't trade places with you for anything.

Auburn is known for magical lucky shit that is unbelievable (but so much damn fun).
Georgia is known for being the most overrated program every year and is replacing Clemson as the synonym for blowing it.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I’d rather be us than you. You are looking at primarilyone stat that is heavily Malzahn centered. I can live with the Auburn vs Georgia record because of what we have accomplished and that has surpassed what you have.

We both have 3 SEC titles since the championship game was established. However your last one wouldn’t have happened without us taking out Bama. We played Georgia/Bama/Georgia back to back to back and it just wore us down to nothing. We played the Peach bowl with one back at 70% and our o-line on life support. I was proud of their effort.

Auburn has a natty in that time period and played for another. You’ve made the playoffs once and again we basically put you there.

Your children don’t know what it’s like to say I’m a national champion but my kids got to buy the gear and wear it to school.

Plus we have Kick 6 and Prayer in Jordan Hare. The magic of 2010 and 2013 isn’t something you’ve ever experienced. 2013 alone crushing the hearts of your two biggest rivals and leaving them in a trail of tears.

Nope no way I trade.

I can't disagree in that it is your opinion, so there's that.

You did make one factual mistake ...

Your children don’t know what it’s like to say I’m a national champion but my kids got to buy the gear and wear it to school.

My oldest son has 2 NCs ... he goes to Bama. My youngest goes to a school that doesn't even have a football team, so he couldn't care less. Otherwise, we just seen things differently, which is fine.

3-13, soon to be 3-14. Embrace it.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Have you ever pondered that in the one national championship game you played in during the playoff era that you blew a 14 point lead and ran off the QB that was your best hope of winning one? I mean that has to sting a 40-year drought that was ruined by bad coaching and you watched the best QB to come through your system since Stafford transfer.

I wouldn't trade places with you for anything.

Auburn is known for magical lucky shit that is unbelievable (but so much damn fun).
Georgia is known for being the most overrated program every year and is replacing Clemson as the synonym for blowing it.

You felt compelled to make a second post ... hmmm.

Can't argue with most of your facts ... but it doesn't really bother me like you think it does. I am not invested like that. I want to win, but it doesn't affect my life that way.

After getting over the loss in 2017, I view it fondly as a really fun year. Sons and I went to the ND game which was a fantastic trip we all remember. SECCG and CFP were a blast. The loss stung, but if you think it stings today, you don't understand how adults live their lives.

Your bias is showing ... UGA right now is known for being one of the top 4 teams in CFB. I like being there. Would really like a NC, or course. But I like where we are and are going right now. Would rather be in my shoes than yours, and if you say otherwise, you are lying. Not that you want to be UGA, I get you don't want that. But you are lying if you can see you'd rather not be at the level we are right now.

As for the Fields thing, it happens. I am one who thinks that Smart did the right thing. No one would have started Fields over Fromm in 2018. The funny thing is that if Fields had stayed in 2019, I think he would have won the starting job over Fromm midway through 2019. But, we will all see QBs transferring. We have 4* Beck, 5* Vandergriff, and 5* Stockton coming in next year. All 3 of them won't end their career at UGA. It is what it is with QBs these days, especially with the transfer portal now. Sometimes the coaches will get it right, sometimes they won't.

 

[ELTEXAN]

Any news?

 

[Wild Turkey]

Any news?

No

But I can guarantee you that it won't be close to your chart.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Don't know if Bama and Georgia should be in the same side. Just got the east and west to even out finally with Georgia getting good

 

[Wishbone]

 

[Volbound1700]

Don't know if Bama and Georgia should be in the same side. Just got the east and west to even out finally with Georgia getting good

Not sure why this got bumped but to add to your comments, I don't think creating divisions based on current status of teams is smart because teams collapse or get good over time. I do think all-time history or program potential can matter some degree but the focus should be on keeping rivals.

I am now more of a fan of 3-6-6 but I did like how the division formats kept most of the rivalries intact. In fact the SEC East is pretty much the original SEC with only the two Mississippis and LSU left out.

The SEC West has 4 former Big12 teams, Arkansas, LSU, and the two Mississippis which would be a fun competitive division as long as OU and Texas can live up to history.