New SEC Alignment

just to be that guy I propose North and south
North: Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia
South: Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss
 
just to be that guy I propose North and south
North: Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia
South: Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss
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just to be that guy I propose North and south
North: Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia
South: Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss
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Ok. One, fuck balance, teams will ebb and flow. Two, who has more than 4 real rivals?

1) You can't have a pod with the likes of Kentucky, Vandy, South Carolina and Missouri and pretend winning that is the same as winning a division with Alabama and LSU. So balance does matter.

2) It's not about a team having more than 4 rivals. If you actually read what I put, I showed you that the web includes more than 4 teams. If you look at the following rivalries:

Kentucky/Tennessee
Tennessee/Vandy
Tennessee/Alabama
UGA/Florida
UGA/Auburn
Alabama/Auburn
Ole Miss/Miss State
LSU/Arkansas
UT/Aggie
UT/OU

Can you find a way to put these teams into pods and maintain those games? I haven't seen a way to do that yet.
 
Insider guy at Surly said that he's hearing two divisions, no pods, 9 games and one permanent cross over game. He noted that it sounds like Bama-UT would be one.

OP had the schools in each division correct.

I don't like the permanent crossover but I'm guessing they want to manufacture some potential matchups for TV purposes.
 
I don't like the permanent crossover but I'm guessing they want to manufacture some potential matchups for TV purposes.
I think that's what they are aiming for.. Big games week in week out.. enough so that the feeble minds inside the CFP commission will think 3 loss SEC school>>>>1 loss ACC school
 
For the Pod System fans, how do you retain the following rivalries in your scenario:

Tennessee-Kentucky
Georgia-Auburn
Texas A&M/Arkansas-LSU depending on which pod system you go with
Tennessee-Florida
Kentucky-Vanderbilt
You don't and live seeing them play every other year. Some of the rivalries in the SEC were built just because teams were stuck in the same division over the years. I believe conferences should focus on keeping the primary rivalries in tack and let new rivalries form within the pods.
 
For the Pod System fans, how do you retain the following rivalries in your scenario:

Tennessee-Kentucky
Georgia-Auburn
Texas A&M/Arkansas-LSU depending on which pod system you go with
Tennessee-Florida
Kentucky-Vanderbilt
They will build in one permanent crossover. You’ll lose one of the games but keep the other.
 
1) You can't have a pod with the likes of Kentucky, Vandy, South Carolina and Missouri and pretend winning that is the same as winning a division with Alabama and LSU. So balance does matter.
Why? Those are only the teams they play every year, they will still have 6 other SEC conference opponents and then a CCG. So no, balance isn't a big deal.
2) It's not about a team having more than 4 rivals. If you actually read what I put, I showed you that the web includes more than 4 teams. If you look at the following rivalries:

Kentucky/Tennessee
Tennessee/Vandy
Tennessee/Alabama
UGA/Florida
UGA/Auburn
Alabama/Auburn
Ole Miss/Miss State
LSU/Arkansas
UT/Aggie
UT/OU

Can you find a way to put these teams into pods and maintain those games? I haven't seen a way to do that yet.
Tennessee - Kent, Bama, vandy, whoever
Kent - Tenn, whoever x3
Vandy - Tenn, whoever x3
Florida - UGA, whoever x3
UGA - Florida, Auburn, whoever x2
Auburn - Bama, UGA, whoever x2
Bama - Tenn, Auburn, LSU, whoever
Ole Miss - Miss St, whoever x3
LSU - Bama, Arkansas, whoever x2
Arkansas - LSU, whoever x3
Texas - OU, A&M, whoever x2
OU - Texas, whoever x3

that was easy and there is plenty of leeway.
 
The East/West Division split just makes too much sense to not happen. In fact, it is probably a better setup from a big game/rivalry perspective then our current situation. Missouri has never felt right in the SEC East for example. Tennessee not playing Auburn annually sucks for most traditional fans. The SEC West has been far stronger than the SEC East the last 15 years.

All of these items will be fixed in the new setup.
 
Texas would like to be in a pod with Missouri, Vandy and South Carolina or they aren’t coming.
 
Why? Those are only the teams they play every year, they will still have 6 other SEC conference opponents and then a CCG. So no, balance isn't a big deal.

Tennessee - Kent, Bama, vandy, whoever
Kent - Tenn, whoever x3
Vandy - Tenn, whoever x3
Florida - UGA, whoever x3
UGA - Florida, Auburn, whoever x2
Auburn - Bama, UGA, whoever x2
Bama - Tenn, Auburn, LSU, whoever
Ole Miss - Miss St, whoever x3
LSU - Bama, Arkansas, whoever x2
Arkansas - LSU, whoever x3
Texas - OU, A&M, whoever x2
OU - Texas, whoever x3

that was easy and there is plenty of leeway.

You don’t get it. If it’s easy, make 4 pods that maintain all of those rivalries
 
Another cool thing is take a team like Arkansas and compare the East/West split. There really isn't much of a difference in their schedule.

Arkansas has:

Alabama (replace with Oklahoma)
LSU (stays same)
Auburn (replace with Texas)
Texas A&M (stays same)
Missouri (stays same)
Ole Miss (stays same)
Miss State (stays same)

2 inter-division games.

Literally this is almost the exact same schedule from a strength of schedule perspective and lineup. It is still very fair and balance. The only issue is having 9 conference games vs. 8 conference games but that was coming either way.
 
I think Bama to the east is a given, prob Auburn too that way ya set up OU/LSU/Texas v Bama/UF/UGA/AU for the CCG most years and great ratings.

LSU’s main rival (in my mind anyway) has always been Ole Miss and prob will be again with A&M/Texas being back and Ole Miss seemingly getting its act together.
 
just to be that guy I propose North and south
North: Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia
South: Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss
No one in the SEC wants to be a division called North. You might as well call it the Yankee division.
 
No one in the SEC wants to be a division called North. You might as well call it the Yankee division.
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Beat me to it.

Ain’t never ever happening
 
You don’t get it. If it’s easy, make 4 pods that maintain all of those rivalries
I see what you're saying now, I was thinking about it differently. Mae culpa

Again, all that matters is the real rivalries are maintained. Sorry, no one outside of Kentucky or Tennessee really care about that one. It will have been relegated to every other year.

Who knows, maybe they will do the east/west. I don't really care, I just find the pod system interesting and more likely in the future.
 
just to be that guy I propose North and south
North: Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia
South: Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss

Yeah. You literally don't get more unbalanced than that.

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