New SEC Alignment

Bama would probably have to be Auburn and Tennessee even though that's not much of a rivalry anymore
Permanent rival thing is mostly stupid. There are couple that I completely understand, but the majority of “permanent rivals” are just stupid, as it applies to cross division rival. Perfect example is South Carolina and A&M, wtf?? If it isn’t a truly historic rival, they should ditch this
 
Permanent rival thing is mostly stupid. There are couple that I completely understand, but the majority of “permanent rivals” are just stupid, as it applies to cross division rival

Not really, some people still like tradition and want to keep it.
 
Not really, some people still like tradition and want to keep it.
The point is a lot of them are just fabricated rivalries. There are a couple that make sense like Auburn Georgin and Tenn/Bama, but A&M and South Carolina makes 0 sense.

just my guess, but if SEC goes to division format. Here are permanent rivals

here is what is in place:
LSU- Florida .. not a historic rival, but this is in place
A&M- South Carolina- just a joke
Ole Miss - Vandy- joke
Miss State- Kentucky.. joke

now we need to match new teams and teams affected by the change in divisions. My guesses:

Texas- Bama (if rumors are true)
OU- Georgia
Ark- auburn
Mizzu- Tenn

There isn’t a single historic rivalry game on the slate of permanent rivals
 
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The point is a lot of them are just fabricated rivalries. There are a couple that make sense like Auburn Georgin and Tenn/Bama, but A&M and South Carolina makes 0 sense.

just my guess, but if SEC goes to division format. Here are permanent rivals

here is what is in place:
LSU- Florida .. not a historic rival, but this is in place
A&M- South Carolina- just a joke
Ole Miss - Vandy- joke
Miss State- Kentucky.. joke

now we need to match new teams and teams affected by the change in divisions. My guesses:

Texas- Bama (if rumors are true)
OU- Georgia
Ark- auburn
Mizzu- Tenn

There isn’t a single historic rivalry game on the slate of permanent rivals
You are correct aTm makes zero sense but if you schedule the other games then for scheduling purposes you have to give the other teams a perm opponent because you can’t have some fixed some floaters.

I don’t see anyone hanging their hat on forced “rivalries” and it’s thought of more as permanent cross division game.
 
You are correct aTm makes zero sense but if you schedule the other games then for scheduling purposes you have to give the other teams a perm opponent because you can’t have some fixed some floaters.

I don’t see anyone hanging their hat on forced “rivalries” and it’s thought of more as permanent cross division game.
I wonder if it happens if the SEC goes to a division format, because there really aren’t any significant historic cross-division rivalry games to protect in that format
 
It 'went out the window' a quarter century ago.
My memory ain't too swift and I can't nail down an exact time frame but I think you are about right. The amount of money became more significant when Oklahoma won their suit...and rightly so. Texas, A&M and Arkansas didn't think the rest of the SWC had enough drawing power to increase their pot of money. So Arkie went to the SEC, four SWC teams joined the Big 8. Money accelerated again with the start of the FBS. And then media offerings went up and the CFP really sent it up again. Realignment was all about money one way or the other. Either "we aren't getting our share, someone is getting more than their share, our total pot isn't increasing fast enough to keep up, etc..........."
 
My memory ain't too swift and I can't nail down an exact time frame but I think you are about right. The amount of money became more significant when Oklahoma won their suit...and rightly so. Texas, A&M and Arkansas didn't think the rest of the SWC had enough drawing power to increase their pot of money. So Arkie went to the SEC, four SWC teams joined the Big 8. Money accelerated again with the start of the FBS. And then media offerings went up and the CFP really sent it up again. Realignment was all about money one way or the other. Either "we aren't getting our share, someone is getting more than their share, our total pot isn't increasing fast enough to keep up, etc..........."

The Big 12 was officially formed in 1994, but they didn't start schedule play until 1996.

That Nebraska/Oklahoma would be put into separate Divisions (N/S) and only meet every other 2 years was inked in 1994.
 
Need some help from you old school sec hicks and hillbillies

what if the organizational scheme was:
Each team has two perm rivals they play each year, and rotate home and aways with all other teams in the conference.

TEXAS: OU and TAMU
OU: TX and MIZZOU
TAMU: TEXAS and LSU
AUBURN: BAMA and UGA
UGA: AUBURN and FLORIDA
LSU: TAMU and OLE MISS
MIZZOU: OU and ARKANSAS
ARKANSAS: MIZZOU and KENTUCKY
OLE MISS: MISS ST and LSU
MISS ST: OLE MISS and BAMA
KENTUCKY: TENN and ARKANSAS
TENNESSEE: VANDY and KENTUCKY
VANDY: TENN and SCAR
BAMA: MISS ST and AUBURN
SCAR: FLORIDA and VANDY
FLORIDA: UGA and SCAR

this seems fair. The only potential change I might make is have MISS ST play TAMU and therefore LSU play BAMA.
i'm pretty sure Ark would trade those for a UT game..
 
The Big 12 was officially formed in 1994, but they didn't start schedule play until 1996.

That Nebraska/Oklahoma would be put into separate Divisions (N/S) and only meet every other 2 years was inked in 1994.
One of the saddest moments in College Football History.
 
The point is a lot of them are just fabricated rivalries. There are a couple that make sense like Auburn Georgin and Tenn/Bama, but A&M and South Carolina makes 0 sense.

just my guess, but if SEC goes to division format. Here are permanent rivals

here is what is in place:
LSU- Florida .. not a historic rival, but this is in place
A&M- South Carolina- just a joke
Ole Miss - Vandy- joke
Miss State- Kentucky.. joke

now we need to match new teams and teams affected by the change in divisions. My guesses:

Texas- Bama (if rumors are true)
OU- Georgia
Ark- auburn
Mizzu- Tenn

There isn’t a single historic rivalry game on the slate of permanent rivals
I agree with most of what you say, but UGA v. AU, and Bama v. UTjr are rivalries that need to be maintained.

UGA AU is called the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry ... started in the 1800s. Bama UTjr has resulted in a standing arrest warrant for UTjr's old head coach. That's a real rivalry.
 
I wonder if it happens if the SEC goes to a division format, because there really aren’t any significant historic cross-division rivalry games to protect in that format
If they move UA and AU to the east it resolves the permanent rivalry issues. We lose UF v. LSU, and UA v. LSU ... hate that, but they don't have the historical significance as some of the others. It also resumes TX v. TAMU maintains OU v. TX, and brings Arky back to the SWC days. All that is good IMO.

I only favor pods as I would like to play teams more often. That requires 9 games (TV will want that), and no permanent rival. You play everyone every 4 years. I would prefer every 2 years, but 4 years is better than what we have.
 
The point is a lot of them are just fabricated rivalries. There are a couple that make sense like Auburn Georgin and Tenn/Bama, but A&M and South Carolina makes 0 sense.

just my guess, but if SEC goes to division format. Here are permanent rivals

here is what is in place:
LSU- Florida .. not a historic rival, but this is in place
A&M- South Carolina- just a joke
Ole Miss - Vandy- joke
Miss State- Kentucky.. joke

now we need to match new teams and teams affected by the change in divisions. My guesses:

Texas- Bama (if rumors are true)
OU- Georgia
Ark- auburn
Mizzu- Tenn

There isn’t a single historic rivalry game on the slate of permanent rivals
I don’t see them matching Bama with Texas. I would love it but the Bammers would cry (you’ll learn they try to stack the deck on conference scheduling the best they can in their favor) and there would be moaning about LSU and TN.

My guess is you guys get stuck with an earlier expansion team.
 
I wonder if it happens if the SEC goes to a division format, because there really aren’t any significant historic cross-division rivalry games to protect in that format
If Alabama and Auburn move the East. The only two worth discussion are Alabama vs LSU and Bama vs Ole Miss but LSU is not going to want to give up Florida for recruiting purposes. Truth is Bama vs LSU is the only one that truly matters.

I doubt Miss State wants to keep playing Auburn especially picking up OU and Texas.
 
Since the SEC seems to be reforming the Confederacy, name the divisions Lee and Stonewall.
That brings up another point. If any of our player “transfer” to a northern conference, you all are under legal obligation to return them to the SEC.
 
If Alabama and Auburn move the East. The only two worth discussion are Alabama vs LSU and Bama vs Ole Miss but LSU is not going to want to give up Florida for recruiting purposes. Truth is Bama vs LSU is the only one that truly matters.

I doubt Miss State wants to keep playing Auburn especially picking up OU and Texas.
Just don’t see LSU vs Bama or Ole Miss vs Bama as historic rivalries. LSU v Bama grew,if they don’t smoke cigars after that game. They still do that after beating a 4 win Tennessee team.
 
I wonder if it happens if the SEC goes to a division format, because there really aren’t any significant historic cross-division rivalry games to protect in that format
If Alabama and Auburn move the East. The only two worth discussion are Alabama vs LSU and Bama vs Ole Miss but LSU is not going to want to give up Florida for recruiting purposes. Truth is Bama vs LSU is the only one that truly matters.

I doubt Miss State wants to keep playing Auburn especially picking up OU and Texas.
 
I don’t see them matching Bama with Texas. I would love it but the Bammers would cry (you’ll learn they try to stack the deck on conference scheduling the best they can in their favor) and there would be moaning about LSU and TN.

My guess is you guys get stuck with an earlier expansion team.
That is possible. Just saw a report (rumor) that Bama was one of strongest proponents of bringing in Texas and would like a game with Texas. It’s been a decade plus, since Texas could be a threat to Bama.
 
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