NIL at UGA ... a player's perspective

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We've had some discussions about NIL and at UGA in particular. Got a little fiery at one point. Here is the presumed QB2 and his thoughts on it, followed by an "agent" or "representative" of sorts for a player at UGA.



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Over the years, I have helped dozen's of kids with their college recruitment and recently helped one of our UGA players during his high school years. Once he would up at UGA, it became obvious that he was going to have NIL opportunities because of his excellent play on the field at an early age. However, he did not want to be in the middle of negotiations because:

a. He wanted to concentrate on football and books.
b. He has no experience in negotiating.
c. He did not want the appearance of being greedy.

He trusted me to research and negotiate deals for him. UGA had done things the right way in his recruitment and he was receiving nothing coming into UGA but it was apparent early on that he deserved his fair share because of play on the field. My first move was to negotiate with the Collectives and that was a very easy and relatively quick. I highly encourage all UGA supporters to donate to the Classic City Collective at Contribute to CCC – Classic City Collective

The second part of the NIL experience was to negotiate deals with companies. You can do this by going to businesses directly or by signing with a Marketing agent. My advice was to sign with a reputable agent and let them do their jobs. Finding a reputable agent and getting a fair contract was the tough part. There are a lot of vulture's out there trying to take advantage of these kids and NIL is unchartered territory which makes this even more complicated for the athletes and their families. After 6 weeks of research and contract negotiations, our athlete signed with a great company and they have delivered on every promise. Said athlete is not getting rich but he should end up with a very, very nice nest egg once he leaves UGA and starts his adult life whether he makes the NFL or not. He is saving his money and being responsible.

My biggest worry in all of this NIL are athletes signing with vulture's who do not have their best interest at heart. I know of several athletes that are signing deals with everybody that throws something in front of their face. Not only are they going to owe multiple "agents", they are also going to have hefty tax bills on April 15th. Most of these deals are 1099 income and if they are not putting money away for taxes, I'm afraid there are going to be a lot of athletes coming out of college with tax liens. Not a good way to start life.

Bottom line... based on my experience, UGA is doing NIL the RIGHT WAY.


Honestly, not sure there is any surprises there if you think through it:

- No way anyone will continue to pay unproven players millions - can you imagine what will happen if the QB at UTjr turns out to suck.
- You can make great NIL ... but you have to actually be good at football. That will play out more and more as people lose money, sucky players don't earn what they have been promised, etc.
- The better programs can sell NFL, development, etc., along with NIL once you get there.
- The type of player that is all about "pay me mine" just won't fit at schools where they realize that culture is required to win at the highest level.
 
That’s insightful. An agent who steers kids to UGA and makes money on both ends of the deal says UGA is doing it right.
Ignore the videos and the rest of the post, but cool. Why would he come on a sports board and lie? What does he have to gain? Doesn’t what he said simply sound like common sense for a program where UGA is right now? Is is surprising to you that the teams that have been called out for NIL are the desperate ones - Miami, ATM, Louisville, UTjr, and UF? While the successful ones that have more to offer don’t have to do that? FWIW, I wouldn’t expect your team would have to use NIL like those teams … you have a lot more to sell that gets the kids to ND where they can then earn NIL.
 
Ignore the videos and the rest of the post, but cool. Why would he come on a sports board and lie? What does he have to gain? Doesn’t what he said simply sound like common sense for a program where UGA is right now? Is is surprising to you that the teams that have been called out for NIL are the desperate ones - Miami, ATM, Louisville, UTjr, and UF? While the successful ones that have more to offer don’t have to do that? FWIW, I wouldn’t expect your team would have to use NIL like those teams … you have a lot more to sell that gets the kids to ND where they can then earn NIL.
My understanding about how ND does it is pretty much everyone gets a base amount of money. Everyone on the roster gets something.

Obviously guys like Mayer can negotiate their own deals but Brady Quinn is big into their collective. It’s also more charitable org focused. Not sure if that’s an advantage maybe they have more access to those.

The problem is people throw the term NIL around but I’m not seeing very much use of players’ name image or likeness. I got no problem with kids getting paid for their name image and likeness once they get n campus but giving them something for nothing (and that nothing is actually “sign with our school”) is the problem.

Outside of DJ being the Dr. Pepper spokesman, and another radio spot I heard dropping Bryce Young and Caleb Williams names I just haven’t seen any actual use of their NIL.
 
My understanding about how ND does it is pretty much everyone gets a base amount of money. Everyone on the roster gets something.

Obviously guys like Mayer can negotiate their own deals but Brady Quinn is big into their collective. It’s also more charitable org focused. Not sure if that’s an advantage maybe they have more access to those.

The problem is people throw the term NIL around but I’m not seeing very much use of players’ name image or likeness. I got no problem with kids getting paid for their name image and likeness once they get n campus but giving them something for nothing (and that nothing is actually “sign with our school”) is the problem.

Outside of DJ being the Dr. Pepper spokesman, and another radio spot I heard dropping Bryce Young and Caleb Williams names I just haven’t seen any actual use of their NIL.
That aligns for the most part with the way I think the top teams are doing it. And, it's basically what the guy said in his post. The company he was referring to was likely a company out of Atlanta that is run by Drew Butler a past dawg that works to bring companies and CFB players together. It would be clothing companies, restaurants, car dealerships, etc. Only the real big guys get big commercial deals. Otherwise it's as you say ... everyone gets a base, they do charity work, meet and greets, signing shit, and then the better known players get more. If you add it all up, my guess is the base amount would be $50K, then add the other stuff and over 4 years they are going to get $200K - $400K, plus the scholarship. That ain't bad for getting started in life.
 
Coaches/staffs will have to navigate through this as with all things.. which makes it even more important with evals (not just on tape) mentally. The whole "culture fit" is going to be a real thing
 
Bag men were funner. It being allowed takes the coolness away
 
lol cause they always had the leg up.. now the legs have been taken out from under them.
Nah, the kids aren’t really making anymore than they were before, now it’s just all documented and they have to pay taxes on it and taxation is theft
 
Nah, the kids aren’t really making anymore than they were before, now it’s just all documented and they have to pay taxes on it and taxation is theft
lol they are making more.. their face are on actual products that's elevating them.. It's the whole reason behind NIL. You telling me Bijan would have made more with a mcdonalds bag with cash than what he has returned the past two years at UT with endorsements?? The guy has stock with a mustard company that always sells out in grocery stores locally.. (and I'm STILL waiting for the order i placed in October).

Boo-hoo about taxes, the bagmen were probably a high reason why these players went into the NFL and had IRS problems.. Now they gotta get educated earlier while they build up their portfolio

I think most of the hand wringing are about places that don't have a strong collective behind that is doing it the RIGHT WAY.. not for an individual player.. but for all of the athletes, men or women.

Gotta elevate the floor.. Texas Tech is doing it.. hell SMU is doing it too.
 
lol they are making more.. their face are on actual products that's elevating them.. It's the whole reason behind NIL. You telling me Bijan would have made more with a mcdonalds bag with cash than what he has returned the past two years at UT with endorsements?? The guy has stock with a mustard company that always sells out in grocery stores locally.. (and I'm STILL waiting for the order i placed in October).

Boo-hoo about taxes, the bagmen were probably a high reason why these players went into the NFL and had IRS problems.. Now they gotta get educated earlier while they build up their portfolio

I think most of the hand wringing are about places that don't have a strong collective behind that is doing it the RIGHT WAY.. not for an individual player.. but for all of the athletes, men or women.

Gotta elevate the floor.. Texas Tech is doing it.. hell SMU is doing it too.
I have it on good authority from a reliable source that Nakobe Dean and George Pickens were paid very handsomely before NIL was a thing

I’m all for NIL, don’t get me wrong and think whatever miserable old bastard that decided anyone shouldn’t be able to profit of their name, image or likeness should have been taken out back and done the way of Old Yeller.

It was just cooler when it was shady and underhanded
 
I think it is funny that anyone thinks any school doing NIL is doing anything different than the rest of them. I've seen blind homerism before but this is a new level.
 
I have it on good authority from a reliable source that Nakobe Dean and George Pickens were paid very handsomely before NIL was a thing

I’m all for NIL, don’t get me wrong and think whatever miserable old bastard that decided anyone shouldn’t be able to profit of their name, image or likeness should have been taken out back and done the way of Old Yeller.

It was just cooler when it was shady and underhanded
oh yeah they were paid great...especially for that time.. But I bet if you could have them entering college right now, they would make more.. especially Pickens.

But I get where you are coming from...
 
I think it is funny that anyone thinks any school doing NIL is doing anything different than the rest of them. I've seen blind homerism before but this is a new level.
I don’t know why anyone would want their team to do it the right way?

I want to cheat better than anyone
 
I think it is funny that anyone thinks any school doing NIL is doing anything different than the rest of them. I've seen blind homerism before but this is a new level.
yeah please show us ALL the pics of aggy players endorsing things..
 
I don’t know why anyone would want their team to do it the right way?

I want to cheat better than anyone
you can still cheat.. just offer a ton of money up front.. like Jimbo did lol


.. and be prepared to spend even more for them to stay if they aren't happy.. like Jimbo did
 
you can still cheat.. just offer a ton of money up front.. like Jimbo did lol


.. and be prepared to spend even more for them to stay if they aren't happy.. like Jimbo did
Happens all the time, all schools are doing that. I mean it is like the Rashada situation isn't going on right now.
 
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