Notre Dame Media

where are you getting this projection of 60-65 million from? Is this if they stayed Independent?

From John Ourand at the SBJ:

Notre Dame gets around $25 million per year from its current NBC deal, which runs through 2025. Sources say the school should expect around $60 million per year from a new contract -- though it’s hard to predict how the media business will look three years from now.

There had been speculation that Notre Dame could command a rights fee upward of $75 million per year when it renegotiates its new contract. That’s because it fills its schedule with games -- like its long-standing rivalry with Navy -- that traditionally bring in lower ratings.

Obviously, Notre Dame would remain independent if it agrees to a new rights deal. But its association with NBC -- and NBC’s new association with the Big Ten -- make it likely that the Fighting Irish would add more Big Ten games to its schedule.

In other words, expect a return of Notre Dame’s rivalry with Michigan before 2033, which is when they are next scheduled to meet. The two last played in 2019. This season, Notre Dame has one Big Ten school (Ohio State) and one soon-to-be Big Ten school (USC) on its schedule.


Yes, that's if they remain independent. Then tack on the ACC revenue, and CFP revenue(assuming they make it more than not), which currently sits at 6 million, if they get the 60 million, with the additional 10 from the ACC on top of 6 million(for now), that's 76 million/yr. Which isn't that far behind the B1G or SEC. That also doesn't include units earned from the tournament, which would tack on another couple million. So they're looking at just under 80 million from all this.
 
this is basically what i was telling @Wild Turkey Crazy but UTs LHN deal was paying more than the NBC ND deal.. No way they were gonna get the 60M a year that they wanted to stay independent with NBC footing the bill..

People were bring up scenarios of them playing more BiG schools and maybe Fox would pay more for those..but they also have a deal in place right now with the ACC...

They will be going into a conference within the next 10 years for sure.. the money is too great to stick to independence

That's me. They can certainly get to the $60 million.

ND is only obligated to the ACC in football for 5 games a season. That leaves 7 games open.
They can do a 5 game agreement with the Big 10 through 2036 just like they have with the ACC.

ND "Annual" football rivals

USC: Going to Big 10 anyway. Keep it just like tOSU/Michigan
Navy: Keep it
Stanford: Keep it

Historic Rivals but not annual

ACC: Pitt, Boston College, Miami FL, Florida St, Georgia Tech.
They are playing them 'on occasion' anyway in an ACC schedule.

Big 10: Purdue, Michigan St, Northwestern, Michigan, Nebraska, Penn St.
They can play each 'on occasion' anyway with the other 4 games open in a Big 10 schedule.


Army: Is the only outlier.
However, ND has only played Army 15 times (15-0) in the last 63 years. They are not scheduled to play through 2036 anyway.
 
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That's me. They can certainly get to the $60 million.

ND is only obligated to the ACC in football for 5 games a season. That leaves 7 games open.
They can do a 5 game agreement with the Big 10 through 2036 just like they have with the ACC.

ND "Annual" football rivals

USC: Going to Big 10 anyway. Keep it just like tOSU/Michigan
Navy: Keep it
Stanford: Keep it

Historic Rivals but not annual

ACC: Pitt, Boston College, Miami FL, Florida St, Georgia Tech.
They are playing them 'on occasion' anyway in an ACC schedule.

Big 10: Purdue, Michigan St, Northwestern, Michigan, Nebraska, Penn St.
They can play each 'on occasion' anyway with the other 4 games open in a Big 10 schedule.


Army: Is the only outlier.
ND has only played Army 15 times in the last 63 years. They are not scheduled to play through 2036 anyway.

My guess is it would be something like a 5, 3, 2, 1 model for ND's schedule.

5 ACC games
3 B1G games(which includes USC every year)
2 games against Stanford/Navy
Then one extra filler on the schedule. Maybe a home and home with an SEC team or something like that, or leave room to schedule an Army, BYU or HBCU(kidding)

Also, not to be overlooked is the guy ND hired to be the new athletic director. Has ties to NBC, played at ND when the NBC deal was first announced, so he knows the value of the NBC deal.

Edit. Just realized I was short a game. Maybe it's 4 games with the B1G. Which would make more sense from NBC's perspective.
 
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ND plays about 2 games against G 5 not including navy. they have an FCS this year.
those games arent getting the eyes the same way but have to be counted toward the deal
 
My guess is it would be something like a 5, 3, 2, 1 model for ND's schedule.

5 ACC games
3 B1G games(which includes USC every year)
2 games against Stanford/Navy
Then one extra filler on the schedule. Maybe a home and home with an SEC team or something like that, or leave room to schedule an Army, BYU or HBCU(kidding)

Also, not to be overlooked is the guy ND hired to be the new athletic director. Has ties to NBC, played at ND when the NBC deal was first announced, so he knows the value of the NBC deal.

Edit. Just realized I was short a game. Maybe it's 4 games with the B1G. Which would make more sense from NBC's perspective.
how does that work.. all those games aren't going to be televised by NBC.. So Fox is going to cut them a deal on top of already paying the conference for games?
 
how does that work.. all those games aren't going to be televised by NBC.. So Fox is going to cut them a deal on top of already paying the conference for games?

Why not? NBC is already in on the new Big 10 media deal.
 
My guess is it would be something like a 5, 3, 2, 1 model for ND's schedule.

5 ACC games
3 B1G games(which includes USC every year)
2 games against Stanford/Navy
Then one extra filler on the schedule. Maybe a home and home with an SEC team or something like that, or leave room to schedule an Army, BYU or HBCU(kidding)

Also, not to be overlooked is the guy ND hired to be the new athletic director. Has ties to NBC, played at ND when the NBC deal was first announced, so he knows the value of the NBC deal.

Edit. Just realized I was short a game. Maybe it's 4 games with the B1G. Which would make more sense from NBC's perspective.

Another obstacle to get to the other 4 Big 10 games (not including USC) and keep their ACC obligation + 3 annual rivals, ND would have to cancel....

2024/2025: Home and Away with Texas A&M.
2025: @ Arkansas
2028: Arkansas
2029/2030: Home and Away with Alabama
2031: USF
2032: @ Florida


However, future agreements are cancelled routinely.

2023 Georgia @ Oklahoma got cancelled on short notice.
 
how does that work.. all those games aren't going to be televised by NBC.. So Fox is going to cut them a deal on top of already paying the conference for games?

The B1G would be the one negotiating this type of scheduling deal, very much like the ACC has. If you guarantee 3 ND vs. B1G games, along with the annual USC game(not included as the deal), every year you'll have 2 home and road games as inventory. The USC game is practically guaranteed on NBC every year home/away, no matter what, then when you have two scheduled road games, the hopes are NBC can pick them up, my guess is NBC would love to have that option, and keep ND on NBC as much as possible even if it's a road game.

It's an interesting model, but I think it makes sense from everyone's perspective.
 
Another obstacle to get to the other 4 Big 10 games (not including USC) and keep their ACC obligation + 3 annual rivals, ND would have to cancel....

2024/2025: Home and Away with Texas A&M.
2025: @ Arkansas
2028: Arkansas
2029/2030: Home and Away with Alabama
2031: USF
2032: @ Florida


However, future agreements are cancelled routinely.

2023 Georgia @ Oklahoma got cancelled on short notice.

If this did start it wouldn't be until the 2026 season, so I would guess those first 3 games would be fine. The 2026 schedule sets up perfect for this as we already have 4 B1G teams scheduled with Wisconsin, USC, Purdue and MSU. Just would need to tack on the 5th ACC school, Stanford and then a 12th game. 2027, we'd just need to add a 1 B1G school. I'd say the only series we'd have to potentially drop would be the USF one. Yeah, our schedule would be difficult(11 P5's and Navy), but if we want 60 million/yr to make it happen, we should do it. We'd stand a good chance at the CFP, even at 9-3. 10-2 or better with these schedules and we would make it every year.
 
The B1G would be the one negotiating this type of scheduling deal, very much like the ACC has. If you guarantee 3 ND vs. B1G games, along with the annual USC game(not included as the deal), every year you'll have 2 home and road games as inventory. The USC game is practically guaranteed on NBC every year home/away, no matter what, then when you have two scheduled road games, the hopes are NBC can pick them up, my guess is NBC would love to have that option, and keep ND on NBC as much as possible even if it's a road game.

It's an interesting model, but I think it makes sense from everyone's perspective.
@ USC is not NBC last 3 were ABC back in 2014 was Fox
 
@ USC is not NBC last 3 were ABC back in 2014 was Fox

I know. I am saying with this type of arrangement the USC away game would be on NBC. Obviously it wasn't in the past.
 
The obvious choice is the B10. I don’t see ND joking the SEC although nothing shocks me anymore.

Just don’t seem them rising to 60 million a year in any of the other 3 leagues.
Yeah, B1G is the natural landing spot for them for sure.
 
If this did start it wouldn't be until the 2026 season, so I would guess those first 3 games would be fine. The 2026 schedule sets up perfect for this as we already have 4 B1G teams scheduled with Wisconsin, USC, Purdue and MSU. Just would need to tack on the 5th ACC school, Stanford and then a 12th game. 2027, we'd just need to add a 1 B1G school. I'd say the only series we'd have to potentially drop would be the USF one. Yeah, our schedule would be difficult(11 P5's and Navy), but if we want 60 million/yr to make it happen, we should do it. We'd stand a good chance at the CFP, even at 9-3. 10-2 or better with these schedules and we would make it every year.

Which is mandatory and will happen.
 
If this did start it wouldn't be until the 2026 season, so I would guess those first 3 games would be fine. The 2026 schedule sets up perfect for this as we already have 4 B1G teams scheduled with Wisconsin, USC, Purdue and MSU. Just would need to tack on the 5th ACC school, Stanford and then a 12th game. 2027, we'd just need to add a 1 B1G school. I'd say the only series we'd have to potentially drop would be the USF one. Yeah, our schedule would be difficult(11 P5's and Navy), but if we want 60 million/yr to make it happen, we should do it. We'd stand a good chance at the CFP, even at 9-3. 10-2 or better with these schedules and we would make it every year.

Just curious why it wouldn't start until the 2026 season?

NBC is a common denominator for both beginning 2 days ago (July 1, 2023).
 
Just curious why it wouldn't start until the 2026 season?

NBC is a common denominator for both beginning 2 days ago (July 1, 2023).

ND's current deal with NBC is through the 2025 season. I'm assuming a deal with them gets done, but I guess there's always a chance something else happens.
 
ND's current deal with NBC is through the 2025 season. I'm assuming a deal with them gets done, but I guess there's always a chance something else happens.

The ND/NBC deal expires after the 2024 season, no?

That being said, NBC would be the common denominator and would likely be all in for an early contract renewal through 2029 when their Big 10 contract expires.

ND: 5 ACC, 5 Big 10 (USC auto), plus Navy and Stanford.

I'm sure it's being (or been) kicked around. Put the ND home games with Big 10 teams on NBC.

Could be too late for that though. FOX and CBS may have issues since the Big 10 contract is already signed and underway. There is a pecking order for Big 10 games of the week.
 
MD and PSU aren't leaving the B1G ever. Maybe something like:

ND
FSU
Clemson
Miami
Pitt
WVU
VT
UVA
UNC
Duke

Basically it would be like adding ND to the ACC, and perhaps pulling WVU out of the big 12.
Dunno if it would be economically feasible but WVU imo would jump all over that and it would be more enjoyable for the fans imo with the additional traditional rivalry games that would bring into the conference.

That said, if I’m Notre Dame and I’m holding my nose and joining a conference, I’m joining the BIG for the traditional rivalry games with Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, USC ect. oh and the humongous payday that would come with ND being a full member of the BIG:laugh:.

Instead of getting the ACC closer, that would pretty much finish them off, similar to how they did the BigEast.
 
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The ND/NBC deal expires after the 2024 season, no?

That being said, NBC would be the common denominator and would likely be all in for an early contract renewal through 2029 when their Big 10 contract expires.

ND: 5 ACC, 5 Big 10 (USC auto), plus Navy and Stanford.

I'm sure it's being (or been) kicked around. Put the ND home games with Big 10 teams on NBC.

Could be too late for that though. FOX and CBS may have issues since the Big 10 contract is already signed and underway. There is a pecking order for Big 10 games of the week.

The deal runs through 2025, which I interpret that to mean after the 2025 season, if not, then I would be wrong in that instance.
 
Dunno if it would be economically feasible but WVU imo would jump all over that and it would be more enjoyable for the fans imo with the additional traditional rivalry games that would bring into the conference.

That said, if I’m Notre Dame and I’m holding my nose and joining a conference, I’m joining the BIG for the traditional rivalry games with Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, USC ect. oh and the humongous payday that would come with ND being a full member of the BIG:laugh:.

Instead of getting the ACC closer, that would pretty much finish them off, similar to how they did the BigEast.

If it got up to 20 teams, at that point, I'd be okay with ND joining. If not, I hope they maintain independence.
 
The deal runs through 2025, which I interpret that to mean after the 2025 season, if not, then I would be wrong in that instance.

"Notre Dame's longstanding deal with NBC is set to expire after 2024"


"Notre Dame's current deal with NBC runs through the 2024 season"

 
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