Oh that crazy PAC 12…

[WhosYourDawggy]

If you are the NCAA, you need to get in front of US Supreme Court again to challenge or limit the previous ruling. The US Supreme Court created this mess with a vague ruling that didn't consider the full environment of college athletics and was based off political sound bites at the time.

Great post though, not much we or NCAA can do. Also a large number of CFB fans may like it because the current system had started to push the sport towards only having 4-5 good teams. With the ability to pay players, schools that have fans but are down (i.e. Nebraska) could pay to get better classes and turn their program around quicker.

Nah, you don't change SCOTUS's mind that way. The law is the law. And the majority opinion was sound. The concurrence of Kavanaugh was kind of out there, but that has no legal bearing. It's dicta. No one joined his concurrence, and that says something.

If they want help at the federal level, it has to be Congress. But what are they going to do to the list I just made?

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

lol NCAA knew about this coming for decades and chose to keep it's head in the sand. The P4/P5 conferences just need to institute it's own rules.. NCAA won't be challenging them because they are dependent on the March Madness Tournament to replenish it's coffers

I don't deny the NCAA is a feckless group. But what on that list could they have done? Seriously, college sports is the victim of its own success. Once you have an enterprise making many billions of dollars, you can't do the things they are doing and nothing other than not growing and getting successful would stop that.

 

[Deep Creek]

Serious questions, what would you do to change it?

- Anti-trust issues, plus the success of the sport, are going to require payment of the players.
- Same with the ability to transfer.
- SEC/B1G can't help it if they have more, and more passionate, fans and as such make more money.
- Demographics have shifted to the south such that Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, plus SoCal produce the most good players.
- The courts are almost at the point of not buying into the ideal of the amateur athlete, it's just a matter of time.
- You can't have a draft ... there still is a student athlete aspect of this for a large percentage of the players.

All of those things are out of the control of the NCAA/colleges.

And, ratings remain high, it's as popular today as it has ever been.

So, you are in charge of CFB, what would you do as an alternative plan?

SEC and Big 10 need to formally separate from all the rest and form their own division. The revenue difference is doing that anyway. Might as well formalize it.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

SEC and Big 10 need to formally separate from all the rest and form their own division. The revenue difference is doing that anyway. Might as well formalize it.

I hope that doesn't happen. UGA v. TCU doesn't help the perceptions any, that's for sure.

I can't see how the SEC and B1G can get $110 million per team per year, with the other conferences getting half that and them remaining competitive. But I don't see a formal split, either. Candidly, it would happen the other way around ... the other conferences might bow out. But the G5 hasn't done that, so I don't see them other P5 doing that.

 

[Deep Creek]

I hope that doesn't happen. UGA v. TCU doesn't help the perceptions any, that's for sure.

I can't see how the SEC and B1G can get $110 million per team per year, with the other conferences getting half that and them remaining competitive. But I don't see a formal split, either. Candidly, it would happen the other way around ... the other conferences might bow out. But the G5 hasn't done that, so I don't see them other P5 doing that.

That's because the others have been greasing the wheels just enough financially to keep them in the fold. Doing so seems to indicate the old P5 thought it worthwhile to do so. Question is, will the P2 and Middle 3 both be willing to do so in the future?

 

[Thiefery]

Big12 is having meetings today and tomorrow.. This with the timing of (rumors) that Udub, Oregon and AZ saying no to the new Amazon deal/reupping with GOR to the conference.. wonder if the talks are now of finally raiding the PAC? Perhaps take votes on whichever schools want in now? I know CBS is talking about Gonzaga as a basketball only addition.. but why include them if you can get AZ?

 

[Volbound1700]

Big12 is having meetings today and tomorrow.. This with the timing of (rumors) that Udub, Oregon and AZ saying no to the new Amazon deal/reupping with GOR to the conference.. wonder if the talks are now of finally raiding the PAC? Perhaps take votes on whichever schools want in now? I know CBS is talking about Gonzaga as a basketball only addition.. but why include them if you can get AZ?

Big 12 is in a great spot to eat these teams but they are also at risk of getting too bulky to be worth it. I think the Houston addition was bad because they added nothing.

If they get up to that 18-20 team range, it will basically have to be a format of 2 conferences functioning as a single unit (i.e. divisions that are basically their own conferences) or it will start to get expensive and fall apart.

 

[OlyDuck]

Big12 is having meetings today and tomorrow.. This with the timing of (rumors) that Udub, Oregon and AZ saying no to the new Amazon deal/reupping with GOR to the conference.. wonder if the talks are now of finally raiding the PAC? Perhaps take votes on whichever schools want in now? I know CBS is talking about Gonzaga as a basketball only addition.. but why include them if you can get AZ?

the only place i have seen that was a youtuber.
everything i have been seeing is there is no hold up due to any school or schools
also seeing minimal differential payout per school from the Big XII but still just short

 

[OlyDuck]

Big 12 is in a great spot to eat these teams but they are also at risk of getting too bulky to be worth it. I think the Houston addition was bad because they added nothing.

If they get up to that 18-20 team range, it will basically have to be a format of 2 conferences functioning as a single unit (i.e. divisions that are basically their own conferences) or it will start to get expensive and fall apart.

not sure the schools of the Pac are eager to have games at UCF, WVU and Cinci on a regular.