Poor Oregon

"Temporary" as in when the ACC GOR expires in 2036?

Seems only Notre Dame would move the needle for the Big 10 to move further forward in adding another PAC or Big 12 team along with them. That will depend on whether NBC's willing to pay them an acceptable amount.

Isn't Notre Dame bound to that ACC GOR in some way as well?
I think the SEC will probably move again before then, probably within 5 years, causing another domino effect of teams falling into one conference or another. ND choosing something would certainly cause the same thing. But the ACC isn't really stuck until 2036, they just have to be able to justify the fine for leaving; which wouldn't actually be that hard with billion dollar TV contracts.
 
I think the SEC will probably move again before then, probably within 5 years, causing another domino effect of teams falling into one conference or another. ND choosing something would certainly cause the same thing. But the ACC isn't really stuck until 2036, they just have to be able to justify the fine for leaving; which wouldn't actually be that hard with billion dollar TV contracts.

The "fine" as in the ACC keeping all media rights revenue that a team would get from their new conference until 2036?

This isn't the Maryland, Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, or A&M situation. Entirely different GOR that you apparently have no respect for.

TX/OU and USC/UCLA waiting for their GOR's to expire should be enough to wake you up.
 
Like any athletic dept could survive without their annual media rights revenue. LOL

Not even tejas is willing to part with one year of that revenue. $42 million is better than $0.
 
"Temporary" as in when the ACC GOR expires in 2036?

Seems only Notre Dame would move the needle for the Big 10 to move further forward in adding another PAC or Big 12 team along with them. That will depend on whether NBC's willing to pay them an acceptable amount.

Isn't Notre Dame bound to that ACC GOR in some way as well?
I had heard or read somewhere that ND’s deal was that if they joined a conference it had to be the ACC through 2030 but that may have changed or was bad info ect. I can’t remember TBH.
 
I had heard or read somewhere that ND’s deal was that if they joined a conference it had to be the ACC through 2030 but that may have changed or was bad info ect. I can’t remember TBH.

I remember something to that effect as well.
 
"The Irish are hitched to a pair of television contracts. The deal with NBC runs through 2025 and draws approximately $15 million per year. ESPN's contract with the ACC runs through 2036. That grant of rights deal includes language that if Irish choose to join a conference in football before 2036, they are contractually obligated to join the ACC."

 
The "fine" as in the ACC keeping all media rights revenue that a team would get from their new conference until 2036?

This isn't the Maryland, Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, or A&M situation. Entirely different GOR that you apparently have no respect for.

TX/OU and USC/UCLA waiting for their GOR's to expire should be enough to wake you up.
But it isn't "all" -- "The ACC can reportedly fine teams around $50 million for violating the “grant of rights” agreement that lasts until 2026"

So for 4 years? a team could be fined $50 million per year. And most would be making more than that (by a lot) from the B10 media rights contract.
 
"It all goes back to the ACC deal that Notre Dame has. The deal states that Notre Dame competes in the ACC for most of their sports, like basketball and baseball, while football gets to remain independent. The caveat is that they have to play five ACC teams annually in football. This deal goes through 2036, and during that time period, the only conference Notre Dame can join is the ACC."

 
But it isn't "all" -- "The ACC can reportedly fine teams around $50 million for violating the “grant of rights” agreement that lasts until 2026"

So for 4 years? a team could be fined $50 million per year. And most would be making more than that (by a lot) from the B10 media rights contract.

The ACC GOR is through 2036 and says they get to keep media rights for any team that leaves until then.

Notre Dame owes the ACC 5 football games/year. If Notre Dame joins the Big 10 then the ACC would keep all of their media rights because the NBC deal will be null and void.
 
"Can a school buy it's way out?

Not per se. While everything can be litigated, the original grant of Rights (GOR) binds the schools’ media rights to the conference for the length of the agreement, rendering those schools of little or no value to another conference as the school’s media rights, including revenues, stay with the ACC."

 
"Can a school buy it's way out?

Not per se. While everything can be litigated, the original grant of Rights (GOR) binds the schools’ media rights to the conference for the length of the agreement, rendering those schools of little or no value to another conference as the school’s media rights, including revenues, stay with the ACC."

I see that now. The 2027 date was before renewal in 2016.

Reading more into it, there's some avenues where it could be challenged. But I think the most likely would be a school bluntly coming out and saying "we're leaving the conference. So we'll give you X amount of dollars as a fine or we'll wait until 2036 and you get nothing".

The only thing that would prevent this at this point is ND fulling coming on board or the ACC taking some B12/Pac schools.
 
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Their conference future is nothing compared to the pain headed their way in week one
 
"Can a school buy it's way out?

Not per se. While everything can be litigated, the original grant of Rights (GOR) binds the schools’ media rights to the conference for the length of the agreement, rendering those schools of little or no value to another conference as the school’s media rights, including revenues, stay with the ACC."

@WhosYourDawggy and I and I’m sure others on here have searched and haven’t found a case where a GOR has been broken. The theory is there to do so and I guess it CAN be done but it’s just not worth the time and money that the departing party has to put out.
 
I see that now. The 2027 date was before renewal in 2016.

Reading more into it, there's some avenues where it could be challenged. But I think the most likely would be a school bluntly coming out and saying "we're leaving the conference. So we'll give you X amount of dollars as a fine or we'll wait until 2036 and you get nothing".

The only thing that would prevent this at this point is ND fulling coming on board or the ACC taking some B12/Pac schools.

LOL @ the bold.

You say "I see that now", but you still don't get it.

The ACC get's whatever revenue Notre Dame creates off of it's 5 games and gives them their conference payout share.
That's more than "nothing"
 
It wouldn’t shock me if the B1G wants to kick the tires on ole UNC and UVA when that GoR runs out. After ND the big prize seems to be UNC next. The B1G and SEC could probably work together and get 8 schools to jump from the ACC making the GoR void (or so we’ve been told that’s what it would take) but I would bet both would want UNC so I don’t think that’ll happen now.
We've been hearing all along that school X, school Y or school Z can't bring an additional dollar amount equal to or more than the current conference member's share.(or are projected to get with the new media deal.) Let's say Virginia is projected to only bring $55 million to the party. Why would the B1G members be willing to reduce their projected $80-$100 million shares to ante up for Virginia to get the same? Unless we are talkling uneven distribution based on individual worth. If that's the case, hold on................
 
LOL @ the bold.

You say "I see that now", but you still don't get it.

The ACC get's whatever revenue Notre Dame creates off of it's 5 games and gives them their conference payout share.
That's more than "nothing"
Notre Dame has an exit fee built into the contract, they're actually rather easy.
"The Fighting Irish TV deal with the ACC includes a sizable exit fee, but Notre Dame would be free of paying the Grant of Rights charge for football, according to ESPN's David Hale."

I'm talking about the other schools. And yes it isn't "nothing" but it's short term revenue that would find them in the same spot a decade from now. The ACC schools might be inclined to take whatever negotiated penalty from an exiting school (who's going to exit anyway).
The ACC schools are only getting something like $36 million per year. If they truly would get the estimated $100 million from the new B10 contract (for instance) they could easily offer up $250million now, paid over X years, which would represent about 1/2 of their TV revenue over the remaining contract. Of which, they'd basically make up in additional revenue from the B10 contract within 5 years.

And technically, teams could just sign on with the B10 -- to start in 2036. They'd be lame ducks in the ACC until then like Texas and OU are now. And once that's announced, attempt to negotiate down.

Again, there's lots of ways around this.
 
We've been hearing all along that school X, school Y or school Z can't bring an additional dollar amount equal to or more than the current conference member's share.(or are projected to get with the new media deal.) Let's say Virginia is projected to only bring $55 million to the party. Why would the B1G members be willing to reduce their projected $80-$100 million shares to ante up for Virginia to get the same? Unless we are talkling uneven distribution based on individual worth. If that's the case, hold on................
I agree 100%, but then aside from ND realignment should be done for the foreseeable future if not longer. But we both know that's probably not it. It's a question I've asked in another thread, if ND is the only school that adds per team, why would the P2 expand past them? Regardless of odd number members.
 
Notre Dame has an exit fee built into the contract, they're actually rather easy.
"The Fighting Irish TV deal with the ACC includes a sizable exit fee, but Notre Dame would be free of paying the Grant of Rights charge for football, according to ESPN's David Hale."

I'm talking about the other schools. And yes it isn't "nothing" but it's short term revenue that would find them in the same spot a decade from now. The ACC schools might be inclined to take whatever negotiated penalty from an exiting school (who's going to exit anyway).
The ACC schools are only getting something like $36 million per year. If they truly would get the estimated $100 million from the new B10 contract (for instance) they could easily offer up $250million now, paid over X years, which would represent about 1/2 of their TV revenue over the remaining contract. Of which, they'd basically make up in additional revenue from the B10 contract within 5 years.

And technically, teams could just sign on with the B10 -- to start in 2036. They'd be lame ducks in the ACC until then like Texas and OU are now. And once that's announced, attempt to negotiate down.

Again, there's lots of ways around this.
Dude, the ACC isn't going to cut a deal with their full time members to bail and kill the conference. It doesn't matter if they are lame ducks or not, you don't help speed up your demise you prolong it any and every way you can.
 
Oregon be like

Debbie Downer Snl GIF
 
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