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So, I’m looking at how baseball reference now has negro league stats.
Never realized how their seasons were so short. No wonder some of their state were so insane.
Never realized how their seasons were so short. No wonder some of their state were so insane.
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Not really. No different than MLB stats being greater back then. There were less teams so it wasn't so much watered down as it was not facing all the other best players.
Imagine if it were the same thing all along. One side would have had Bonds, Aaron, Mays, Gibson, the other Williams, Mantle, Rocket and Unit. Numbers would have certainly been up but doesn't change their greatness
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but the less games you play the easier it is to keep your ratio stats so high.
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That's why you go to 165 game averages. For Josh Gibson, it was .374, 45, 196. I see your point but there's a flip to it as well. In a short season, a guy goes into a slump, or he doesnt, maybe he is hitting bottle rockets everywhere that are just getting caught(easy to do), and your numbers never have time to recover. It works for and against
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true. But much more working for you.
Short seasons there is much less pacing.
it would have been fun to see some of these legends compete in real organized baseball. Would love to see how their stats would have compared to the other greats of their time.
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I would think that would have mirrored their counterparts. I'll use Gibson and Ruth as an example. Take any decade since the league's of different sports have been open to all races. It's hard to find a time when the very best black player wasn't at least the equal of the very best white player, and vice versa. Mantle-Mays, Bird-Magic, Mahomes-Rodgers..
Not sure about the Ruth - Gibson comparison but I agree for hitters there would have been some that would be in the convo as top 20-30 all time. Not for pitchers though.
My point is I agree on hitters, there would be some that would no question be in the top 20 or 30 of all time but not for pitchers. Blacks have been in the bigs for 70+ years and Fergie Jenkins is in 29th place all time with 284 wins, most by a black pitcher.
Look at active leaders in wins.
Even in todays game there just isnt many black pitchers. David Price is the only one in the top 40-50 I believe in wins.
Because of these reasons I just don't think players in the negro leagues would have put up the same kinda stats if they would have played in the majors. But again there is no question someone like Oscar Charleston would have been incredible no matter what league he played in.
Look at active leaders in wins.
Even in todays game there just isnt many black pitchers. David Price is the only one in the top 40-50 I believe in wins.
Because of these reasons I just don't think players in the negro leagues would have put up the same kinda stats if they would have played in the majors. But again there is no question someone like Oscar Charleston would have been incredible no matter what league he played in.
You're really reaching now. Joe Williams had a losing record and an era in the mid threes, Rogan was good pitcher but a really small sample size, Paige was great but none of these guys threw 300+ innings a season.