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Whoa there cowboy. People don’t just walk around casually closing my threads like that. This thread is open until I say otherwise.
Riley Throwing Shade at OU
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Bo Nix is going to be your QB so yeah I expect a drop off.
Yeeeaaah, fuck it, let the bad times roll
Heeeey, Lincoln, how does your grave roll?
Take what’s right and make it wrong
Make it up as I go along
Let me know when you decide
Apathy or suicide
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Yeah, I should have expected one of them. Let's compare Pac12 Strength Chip Kelley's first season vs. Lincoln Riley
Chip Kelly (joined UCLA in 2018 but since we are going off what the league looked like when he joined, I have to show 2017 situation). The Pac12 was far more challenging with Peterson still at Washington and Washington a top 20 (sometimes top 10 team), Mike Leach still at Washington State (they would win Pac12 in 2018), Stanford still playing at high level, and USC playing at high level. You can see the various rankings in the polls below as well as the fact that 9 teams made bowl games.
Take Pac12 in 2021, the league that Lincoln Riley is joining. Utah is legit and Oregon was legit. Oregon (one of the best teams) now has a big question mark with a coaching change. Stanford is 3-9 and the rest of the Pac12 North is not good. Pac12 South has UCLA and Utah. UCLA folded in second half of season but I still will consider them a tough opponent who just hit a bad streak. I guess Arizona State is decent as well but as I stated, I have seen the Arizona teams constantly ranked high but they haven't lived up to lofty expectations or done anything major since Tennessee was good. I would say Lincoln Riley is entering a pretty good spot at USC with the way the Pac12 currently looks.
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Nobody who watched OU last season is buying that bullshit. He was mailing it in all season and no one could figure out what the problem was with the team's attitude until................... "The USC offer only came up in the last 12 hours" according to Muleshoe when he met with the team. Don't let this guy skate with that malarkey. He was looking for another place to coach the minute he realized Oklahoma was actually going to the SEC. I'm fine with him leaving after what has transpired since then but let's not forget the guy either was clairvoyant about the USC offer falling out of the sky at the end of the season or he's just a run of the mill liar.
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Oklahoma season's last year kind of had some similarities to one of the seasons when I was Tennessee as a student and we were still good (or supposed to be). We started the season ranked in the top 3 and played UAB and struggled a lot similar to how Oklahoma struggled against Tulane. That set the tone for the entire season and Tennessee never recovered. Oklahoma did a lot better than Tennessee did in that season (it was the 2005 season if you want to look it up) but it seems like that first game set the tone for the season and the players and people started to give up on OU after the first game.
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ok that actually made me laugh
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also thats still a maybe
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lol
There's the shit that Sooners fans are spewing...then there's the truth.
Sooners fans are a bunch of scorned women.
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Oklahoma doesn't have the resources to be a championship level football program. They try, but they just don't have what it takes.
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Ha says the guy whose team hasn't even won their conference title in 5 years.
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Saban gets so many second chances they're gonna rename him Mulligan Saban.
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Well -- nothing he said isn't the truth. It will be much easier for him to pull elite recruits at USC than it was for him at OU. He will have a ton of in state talent to pick from and USC showed they have no issue paying players, even when it was illegal, so now that it is the wild west, they won't get out bid on many guys.
USC Coach Lincoln Riley Responds To Rumors That He Dodged The SEC
As Texas and Oklahoma each celebrated their inclusion in the SEC, former OU coach Lincoln Riley might've had a different reaction ...www.outkick.com
Riley’s offseason departure from Norman, coming off a much-anticipated agreement for Oklahoma to join the SEC in 2025, prompted talks on whether the coaching protégé dodged college football’s stiffest conference by moving to USC / Pac-12.
“I heard the whole SEC narrative,” Riley said in an interview with CBS Sports’ Dennis Dodd, denying any apprehension over the eventual exodus out of the Big 12 for Oklahoma.
Riley chalked the move to forgo the SEC and head to LA to a strong offer by the Trojans.
“To me, the SEC has nothing to do with it. It’s all about the program that you’re at and the position you think you can get to.”
He admitted that his personnel back in OU wasn’t capable of getting the job done.
“I’ve walked into four playoffs, and I’ve never had better than maybe the third-best roster [of the four semifinal teams],” Riley admitted.
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Oregon has a question mark but it isnt a big one. coaching change has no one worried.
prior oregon coaching changes 94 9-4 to 9-3 in 95
08 10-3 to 10-3 in 09
12 12-1 to 11-2 in 13 to be fair this is where the slide came
16 4-8 to 7-6 in 17 to 9-4 in 18
oregon's question mark comes to about going from 10 wins to maybe 9
also Oregon and USC don't play this year unless in the Pac 12 title game.
im honestly confused at what you look at
UCLA folded in the second half of the season?
4-2 with the 2 losses to Oregon winner of the North 34-31 and to Utah winner of the south 44-24 ( ok that one wasnt close)
but how is that folded?
arizona schools ranked high but havent lived up to expectations?
arizona is never ranked in the preseason even coming off a 10 win season
Arizona state is probably like 50/50 on starting ranked and finishing ranked vs unranked and finishing ranked.
but constantly? no you havent.
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They were ranked as high as #13 during the early part of the season. They finished the season unranked. I remember UCLA was talked about last year as a playoff contender at one point and they fell apart.
There have been several seasons with Arizona or Arizona State being ranked high only to fall apart. After Oregon, look at the records of the Pac12 North team. Also look at the records of the South teams as well.
Riley should easily be able to come in and win 7-8 games with how bad the Pac12 is right now. Chip Kelley did NOT have that advantage because Pac12 had far more solid teams when he took over UCLA.
I spelled out the stats for you above. Only two teams in the Pac12 were ranked last year (Oregon and Utah) and one of those two lost their head coach. If you think Oregon isn't a question mark after losing their coach, you are in major denial. Anytime you bring in a new system, it is a struggle. I know being a Tennessee fan. Coaching is everything. Compare Alabama 1997-2006 vs. Alabama 2007-present.
The Pac12 was still pretty strong in 2017 with sold coaches and teams that can contend at high level: Notably Washington, Washington State, Stanford, USC, and Utah.
Now it is a pretty watered down league (especially the North). The Oregon State team you bragged about lost to Utah State.
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Easier path than trying to go through the SEC west and at worst the same if not more of a Name Ranking bump than at OU.
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I just don’t see it being as easy as it looks. I would like to see a pac team be relevant again. But the strength of the rest of the conference is not there IMO
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trolling aside, i'm legitimately curious who you think my team is
b/c you could have said a lot worse things about my actual team than that lmao