SEC Media days

WhosYourDawggy said:
Some interesting tidbits - ATM had one of their players say the silent part out loud. Now, before you jump my shit about piling on the fact that ATM lost half their class last year - I kid, I kid - read this because it's actually good news for ATM fans.

Texas A&M’s Ainias Smith said out loud what we all knew…

“I’d say in the past we haven’t come together in a way. It was a lot of individualism coming into A&M. A lot of people that are coming now that are getting recruited are so big on NIL. You know, parents are looking for NIL deals or whatnot and a lot of people then were just so fixated on me, me, me and wanted to get things done for them and not necessarily a team thing...

Now I feel like the team is actually buying in. We don’t have those people that are going to jump back at you if you try to correct something or you try to help them in a way. They’re not going to feel some type of way or feel attacked because of whatever it is that they’re going through. Everybody is willing to listen, willing to be led. I feel like that’s the biggest difference this year is the accountability that we’ve had for each other. Just making sure that we’re all on the same page. Just doing all of the little things at a very high level and doing it consistently.”

Smith went on to say more about NIL and the impact of Covid-19.

“It’s really all about the mentality of the program. I guess you can say it started with the freshmen – not for real, though. I mean it started with everybody. It was the new big thing. Everybody wanted to get NIL. It was a little different after that Covid year.”

Smith went on to say that the impact of the pandemic played a larger role in impacting the Aggies.

“I wouldn’t necessarily say NIL played the biggest role in whatever happened,” Smith said. “I feel like it was Covid… The high schoolers, they didn’t necessarily have to go to school for a point of time and when they had come to college, it was like they had the expectation that they didn’t have to go to school.

“Like, ‘Kid, who are you? You just got here!’ I feel like now that things are getting back to normal – you still got to go to school, you still got to go to study hall – being able to lead guys that want to be led and really hold people accountable for things that aren’t right. So, if you miss school or you miss study hall, then now we have something to punish you for it and it’s not even so much about the punishment. It’s all about the accountability, making sure that we’re all trying to reach the same goal, all on the same wavelength.”
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I thought it was more interesting they brought a drug dealer in to speak as a team leader
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Some interesting tidbits - ATM had one of their players say the silent part out loud. Now, before you jump my shit about piling on the fact that ATM lost half their class last year - I kid, I kid - read this because it's actually good news for ATM fans.

Texas A&M’s Ainias Smith said out loud what we all knew…

“I’d say in the past we haven’t come together in a way. It was a lot of individualism coming into A&M. A lot of people that are coming now that are getting recruited are so big on NIL. You know, parents are looking for NIL deals or whatnot and a lot of people then were just so fixated on me, me, me and wanted to get things done for them and not necessarily a team thing...

Now I feel like the team is actually buying in. We don’t have those people that are going to jump back at you if you try to correct something or you try to help them in a way. They’re not going to feel some type of way or feel attacked because of whatever it is that they’re going through. Everybody is willing to listen, willing to be led. I feel like that’s the biggest difference this year is the accountability that we’ve had for each other. Just making sure that we’re all on the same page. Just doing all of the little things at a very high level and doing it consistently.”

Smith went on to say more about NIL and the impact of Covid-19.

“It’s really all about the mentality of the program. I guess you can say it started with the freshmen – not for real, though. I mean it started with everybody. It was the new big thing. Everybody wanted to get NIL. It was a little different after that Covid year.”

Smith went on to say that the impact of the pandemic played a larger role in impacting the Aggies.

“I wouldn’t necessarily say NIL played the biggest role in whatever happened,” Smith said. “I feel like it was Covid… The high schoolers, they didn’t necessarily have to go to school for a point of time and when they had come to college, it was like they had the expectation that they didn’t have to go to school.

“Like, ‘Kid, who are you? You just got here!’ I feel like now that things are getting back to normal – you still got to go to school, you still got to go to study hall – being able to lead guys that want to be led and really hold people accountable for things that aren’t right. So, if you miss school or you miss study hall, then now we have something to punish you for it and it’s not even so much about the punishment. It’s all about the accountability, making sure that we’re all trying to reach the same goal, all on the same wavelength.”
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this is awkward...

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Thiefery said:
it's going to have to because the ACCs most valuable schools are not happy
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Yeah, when they are $50 million or more behind the SEC and B1G they will. Question is who? Very few make any sense.

The Athletic wrote an article about future expansion and the most liley was a Big3 - likely SEC, B1G and B12. We know the PAC is toast. As between the B12 and the ACC, the ACC has better schools, but that's not good for them. It means they are more likely to be poached, whereas there really aren't many if any teams the B12 has to offer. So, you take the top ACC schools and they go to the B1G and SEC. Then you take the next best (NCSU, VaTech, Louisville, etc.) and they go to the B12. The rest join a Big East or something like that.

I still don't see the value, but it will be interesting. The good thing for everyone involved is that the 13 years to run on the ACC GOR is perfect to let the B1G and SEC reset the market and then decide what to do.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Yeah, when they are $50 million or more behind the SEC and B1G they will. Question is who? Very few make any sense.

The Athletic wrote an article about future expansion and the most liley was a Big3 - likely SEC, B1G and B12. We know the PAC is toast. As between the B12 and the ACC, the ACC has better schools, but that's not good for them. It means they are more likely to be poached, whereas there really aren't many if any teams the B12 has to offer. So, you take the top ACC schools and they go to the B1G and SEC. Then you take the next best (NCSU, VaTech, Louisville, etc.) and they go to the B12. The rest join a Big East or something like that.

I still don't see the value, but it will be interesting. The good thing for everyone involved is that the 13 years to run on the ACC GOR is perfect to let the B1G and SEC reset the market and then decide what to do.
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PAC is toast.. but what exactly are the teams linked to the Big12 bringing with them? More underwhelming TV ratings? They are literally going to host games in Mexico City hoping it catches on and people tune in on it.. They are also looking to broadcast games on Thursday and Friday nights.. this is something out the ESPN Ocho playbook.. how is that going to be viewed as a P3?
 
Thiefery said:
PAC is toast.. but what exactly are the teams linked to the Big12 bringing with them? More underwhelming TV ratings? They are literally going to host games in Mexico City hoping it catches on and people tune in on it.. They are also looking to broadcast games on Thursday and Friday nights.. this is something out the ESPN Ocho playbook.. how is that going to be viewed as a P3?
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Just pointing out what The Athletic was saying. It will be P2, kinda P1, then everyone else will be G8 or 9. Basically, if you spread out the 60 some odd P5 teams, the B12 should have a pretty decent deal when the ACC and the PAC are no longer around. Their inventory will be worth more than it is now, if not at SEC and B1G levels.
 
I can see a future of the SEC and the B1G forming a partnership and expanding to 40 teams. Cut a few non-producers and cherry pick the remains.
 
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Thiefery said:
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Kind of a meaningless stat, no? It doesn't seem to reflect a measure for success. i.e. More doesn't translate to better.

Not to mention it would have been better to evaluate if presented from most to least and not in alphabetical order as presented.

For example..

Florida: 17 (6-7)
A&M: 15 (5-7)
Tenn: 13 (11-2)
Georgia: 10 (15-0)
Bama: 9 (11-2)
Vandy: 9 (5-7)
tejas: 9 (8-5 Big 12 schedule)
Auburn: 8 (5-7)
Missouri: 8 (5-7)
Arky: 7 (7-6)
LSU: 7 (10-4)
Miss St: 7 (9-4)
Ol' Miss: 7 (8-5)
Kentucky: 6 (7-6)
S. Carolina: 3 (8-5)
Oklahoma: 3 (6-7 Big 12 schedule)
 
Red_Alert said:
Kind of a meaningless stat, no? It doesn't seem to reflect a measure for success. i.e. More doesn't translate to better.

Not to mention it would have been better to evaluate if presented from most to least and not in alphabetical order as presented.

For example..

Florida: 17 (6-7)
A&M: 15 (5-7)
Tenn: 13 (11-2)
Georgia: 10 (15-0)
Bama: 9 (11-2)
Vandy: 9 (5-7)
tejas: 9 (8-5 Big 12 schedule)
Auburn: 8 (5-7)
Missouri: 8 (5-7)
Arky: 7 (7-6)
LSU: 7 (10-4)
Miss St: 7 (9-4)
Ol' Miss: 7 (8-5)
Kentucky: 6 (7-6)
S. Carolina: 3 (8-5)
Oklahoma: 3 (6-7 Big 12 schedule)
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maybe we should look at this after the 2023 season plays out?
 
Red_Alert said:
Sure. Is there a similar list from 2022?

TX/OU won't matter in 2023 because they play a Big 12 schedule. Not sure why they were included.
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i never seen a graphic like this before
 
Thiefery said:
it's going to have to because the ACCs most valuable schools are not happy
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Again, why do they "have" to? If I am making $110 million a year, and the ACC breaks up and we take Clemson and FSU and now every team makes $100 million a year, you better have a damn good reason why you just took $10 million from me.

Someone is going to have to show why growth with teams who don't have eyeballs following them, and are very unlikely to earn a CFP share is a good thing.

For over half the league, you are going to have to show me why I want a couple more guaranteed losses on my schedule so I can get $10 million less.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
For over half the league, you are going to have to show me why I want a couple more guaranteed losses on my schedule so I can get $10 million less.
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Season 2 Lol GIF by Insecure on HBO
 
Kburjr said:
I can see a future of the SEC and the B1G forming a partnership and expanding to 40 teams. Cut a few non-producers and cherry pick the remains.
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You would have a better shot at Republicans and Democrats agreeing on an immigration bill.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Again, why do they "have" to? If I am making $110 million a year, and the ACC breaks up and we take Clemson and FSU and now every team makes $100 million a year, you better have a damn good reason why you just took $10 million from me.

Someone is going to have to show why growth with teams who don't have eyeballs following them, and are very unlikely to earn a CFP share is a good thing.

For over half the league, you are going to have to show me why I want a couple more guaranteed losses on my schedule so I can get $10 million less.
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It's a given the SEC and B1G are not going to add by subtraction because no one is taking less money to add schools.

I think the big question is really at what point do the SEC and B1G grow the inventory where airing all the games becomes problematic? ESPN pushing back on paying for a 9 game SEC season has been an interesting development because I thought that was a no-brainer but ESPN doesn't want to pay for the extra game. Now ESPN is cutting expenses and I'm sure that has a lot to do with it at this present time because I think 3 years ago it happens with no problem. That is the reason the SEC didn't go to 9 games because the league wants to get paid for that additional game and at this point I think ESPN figures they have the cream and would be buying 2nd tier games for 1st tier money.

Disney is exploring selling ESPN altogether or spinning it off completely and if that were to happen it makes the next contract really interesting because who knows who would have control of ESPN or what they're financially able to offer? If ESPN at some point gets neutered then is there enough competition in the broadcasting market to fund big contracts? Chances are yes but nothing is guaranteed.
 
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