Tennessee's Pruitt Fires D-Line Coach During KY Game

Volbound1700 said:
The fans blew up about it because the defense is not the problem, the offense is. I am in a major UT group on Facebook and frequent Volnation. Things are ugly right now.
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I was listening to Bill King the other day and he was going off about this and UT. His point was Pruitt is stubborn as hell about replacing your QB and putting the younger kid in. FWIW - he was saying the UT veteran QB "was scared to throw" and it was useless keeping him in. May as well lose "with the future at QB" than doing it with a veteran QB that is severely limited. Made sense but curious to see what you think?
 
OregonDucks said:
Who's been back more? Texas or Tennessee?
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Texas by a long shot. Tenn only made their pronouncement this year for the first time in about a decade.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I'd be all in for Kiffin.
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SO long as he doesn't mind jumping after a year or two, he'd be the person I would want if I were you, which basically means I hope he has found some hot tail at OM and doesn't want to leave.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
SO long as he doesn't mind jumping after a year or two, he'd be the person I would want if I were you, which basically means I hope he has found some hot tail at OM and doesn't want to leave.
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I think credibility wise he can’t do it. It was bad enough When it did it at Tenn and he can’t afford that again. I imagine he is there at least 3 years.
 
DJr said:
The Vols would kill to have somebody like Fullmer right now.
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I am not sure about that ... college football starts at recruiting. I am not sure he's up to it.

UTjr has a Nebraska problem, but in a more fertile recruiting area. Meaning, no kid that is being recruited today has any idea about the history of UTjr. While TN is a better recruiting grounds than Nebraska (correct me if I am wrong), they have to recruit against UGA, Clemson, Bama, now UNC, Auburn, USCjr. All those schools are 2-4 hours from UTjr.

At least for UGA, Richt kept us relevant in the modern times, and the growth of Atlanta has made it an incredible fertile recruiting area. Not sure how UTjr gets around that.

Throw in playing UGA, Bama and UF every year and you basically start at 0-3.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I think credibility wise he can’t do it. It was bad enough When it did it at Tenn and he can’t afford that again. I imagine he is there at least 3 years.
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Kind of my thought, too. Then again, with Gus' buyout and Covid, it may be 3 more years.
 
HammerDown said:
James Franklin leave State College for Texas or Tennessee?

why in the world would he do that???
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because he has to live in State College?
 
Deep Creek said:
I thought Urban was done with coaching. If he wasn't, why'd he leave Ohio State? Only a handful of jobs as good as that one...if that.
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This is my thought as well but I think Urban gets stressed and leaves and then gets bored and come back. That seems to be his MO.
 
HammerDown said:
James Franklin leave State College for Texas or Tennessee?

why in the world would he do that???
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Hey leave Tennessee out of this one 😆. Franklin won't come to Knoxville.

I am not sure who Tennessee could even get if we change coaches right now. Better to stick with Pruitt for the time being.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Hey leave Tennessee out of this one 😆. Franklin won't come to Knoxville.

I am not sure who Tennessee could even get if we change coaches right now. Better to stick with Pruitt for the time being.
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That seems to be a sticking point for a lot of them. Who is "out there"?
 
HammerDown said:
Tennessee fans have said "this is it" once every few years since Phil Fulmer. I actually thought Butch was going to bring them back.
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He came closer than anyone. Back to back 9-4 seasons, that that went to hell in a hurry.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Mark Richt absolutely hates Pruitt and Mark Richt doesn’t hate anyone. Tells me all I need to know about the guy
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That is pretty damning. I've never personally had any dealings with the guy, he seems more dumb than dick, but you're right Richt is not one to take a dislike to too many people.
 
Rolltide94 said:
That is pretty damning. I've never personally had any dealings with the guy, he seems more dumb than dick, but you're right Richt is not one to take a dislike to too many people.
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Richt's biggest downfall as a coach was that he was too nice of a guy. I've got plenty of bad things to say about him as a coach, but don't have a bad word about him as a man.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Richt's biggest downfall as a coach was that he was too nice of a guy. I've got plenty of bad things to say about him as a coach, but don't have a bad word about him as a man.
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Yeah, that would be my read as well. Not a bad coach, but could have been a better one with a little more asshole in him. Not like say Bill Bilichick level, but enough for people to know when you're pissed off.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
He came closer than anyone. Back to back 9-4 seasons, that that went to hell in a hurry.
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The second 9-4 season was when it went awry. We started out with an embarrassing near loss to Appalachian State. We then had a hail mary against Georgia to save that game (granted Georgia also had a hail mary to take the lead). However, we looked great at that point with great wins over Florida and Virginia Tech and we almost beat a top ten (at the time) Texas A&M team which went into double over time.

Then we got creamed by the Saban machine. Butch Jones then started Josh Dobbs with the flu against South Carolina and loss that game costing us the SEC East. He then lost the last game against Vanderbilt when a Sugar Bowl was on the line.

The losses against South Carolina and Vanderbilt killed the great momentum from the start of the season and cost us the SEC East.

Still, most Tennessee fans were behind Butch until that disastrous 4-8 season.
 
Wild Turkey said:
The thing is I think that was the wrong move. Granted a lot of water is under the bridge but you would have a hard time convincing me that USC wouldn't be much better off today if Kiffin had stayed. I mean I type that and think it can't be right but I'm convinced that it is.
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It's hard to say. The guy has always been able to coach, that was never really the issue. Being completely fair to him, he got USC through most of the sanctions without a losing season. He even had them in the NC convo for a couple of seasons. When you consider that most were predicting 4-8/5-7 seasons for the next several years, that alone is pretty remarkable.

But, at the time, he was far too immature to be leading a program like USC and it showed, a lot. By the time he was fired, he had lost the team.

The best thing for him was being OC under Saban. Saban showed him how to act more like a grownup. Without that, I'm not sure he gets any better.

He needed to be humbled and getting fired the way he did, having to accept a "lifeline" from Saban and then go to a program like FAU, provided that.
 
Thiefery said:
Kiffin wouldn't have done much different imo.. he needed that experience to get better.. he needed the FIU stop to figure things out. Big question is, should they have stuck with Orgeron instead of hiring Helton?
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I was "Team Orgeron" until the UCLA game that year. Adjustments needed to be made at halftime and he didn't or couldn't make them. He got outcoached by Jim Mora Jr. ffs. lol

I think they maybe still should have at least given him a couple of seasons to prove himself. Especially since Sark was such a disaster. But I think he would have ultimately been fired as well.
 
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