Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC

How long?

  • Year 1

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Within the first 3-5 seasons

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • At LEAST 10 years

    Votes: 6 26.1%

  • Texas BBQ style potato salad

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
Thiefery said:
I think most are already carrying the PAC N.. if not it's available for free on Samsung TV. Again I'm not sure how much value it brings but.. PAC is in between a rock and a hard place so, it can only bring something in, right?
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How many people have Samsung tv? I bet most have Comcast and that’s another area the pac can break into. Given the options out there it’s not a horrible one.
 
Thiefery said:
I think most are already carrying the PAC N.. if not it's available for free on Samsung TV. Again I'm not sure how much value it brings but.. PAC is in between a rock and a hard place so, it can only bring something in, right?
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Too many people think expansion increases the value of your conference. They don't realize that you have to start splitting up the pie more ways. Adding a lot of the teams that are being discussed would just lead to a smaller piece of pie.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Doesn’t matter if a single person watches them. Cable company can still charge its subscribers. Right now that matters some. As streaming continues, it won’t but now it does.

Bring tech, junior, TCU and if not Kansas then kstate.

Can be pod paradise in the PAC.
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I already get B1G, SEC, and LHN. Can't say I've watched any of them outside of the SEC when it was carrying live baseball games.
As far as I know youtubeTV doesn't carry pac 12 network, so you might have a point there. But I wouldn't change my service just to get that, doubt many TCU alums would either.

Hell, I haven't dropped YTTV for not carrying FSSW (Bally sports SW, whatever) so sure wouldn't for a college regional. :)
 
duckboy33 said:
Adding BYU would do nothing to improve the football perception of the PAC.
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It’s better then a lot of options left. It will never happen because of religion but it’s one of the decent options left.
 
fordman84 said:
I already get B1G, SEC, and LHN. Can't say I've watched any of them outside of the SEC when it was carrying live baseball games.
As far as I know youtubeTV doesn't carry pac 12 network, so you might have a point there. But I wouldn't change my service just to get that, doubt many TCU alums would either.

Hell, I haven't dropped YTTV for not carrying FSSW (Bally sports SW, whatever) so sure wouldn't for a college regional. :)
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Would your cable company just charge a higher rate because a pac team is there now? Not sure on that but it’s something for the PAC to think about.
 
ralphiewvu said:
It’s better then a lot of options left. It will never happen because of religion but it’s one of the decent options left.
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Texas Tech and Oklahoma State are the best available options.

BYU won't get an offer because they are a mediocre program, don't expand the footprint and make ridiculous scheduling demands.
 
Thiefery said:
Highland Park Legacy?!??!?
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Pretty much, or execs from the business school there. SMU cranks out MBA's and Lawyers, and of course golfers it appears.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Would your cable company just charge a higher rate because a pac team is there now? Not sure on that but it’s something for the PAC to think about.
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Pretty sure any cable company will charge more any chance they get. youtubeTV raised my fee when they dropped Fox regionals and added some stupid music channel I'll never watch. go figure.
 
One thing that could possible help the Pac12 is to go back to 4 non-conference games and try to play stronger games against the other Power 5 (notably the SEC). Even if it means a road game with no return, pursue it. It doesn't make sense to have 9 conference games in a 12-team conference. The SEC model from 1992-2010 with the 4 non-conference/8 conference game was the best model.

That might help more than expansion.
 
It will be a smaller conference and might lose the P5 moniker, but might be best to recreate something like the SWC. Let WVU go to a closer conference and then add in SMU/Rice/Houston and maybe another Oklahoma school to make it a Texas/OK conference.
 
Volbound1700 said:
One thing that could possible help the Pac12 is to go back to 4 non-conference games and try to play stronger games against the other Power 5 (notably the SEC). Even if it means a road game with no return, pursue it. It doesn't make sense to have 9 conference games in a 12-team conference. The SEC model from 1992-2010 with the 4 non-conference/8 conference game was the best model.

That might help more than expansion.
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The PAC 12 will likely go back to 8 conference games pretty soon. But the PAC 12 has usually scheduled pretty high profile OOC games. I don't think that's been the problem.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Would your cable company just charge a higher rate because a pac team is there now? Not sure on that but it’s something for the PAC to think about.
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For TCU? ehhh. for Tech? probably
 
fordman84 said:
It will be a smaller conference and might lose the P5 moniker, but might be best to recreate something like the SWC. Let WVU go to a closer conference and then add in SMU/Rice/Houston and maybe another Oklahoma school to make it a Texas/OK conference.
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They could have a great Basketball league and appeal to Kansas. Most of the schools left are great basketball programs. Add Tulsa, Houston, Memphis, SMU, and Wichita State + Creighton for Basketball and the league looks great in Nov-March.
 
Volbound1700 said:
They could have a great Basketball league and appeal to Kansas. Most of the schools left are great basketball programs. Add Tulsa, Houston, Memphis, SMU, and Wichita State + Creighton for Basketball and the league looks great in Nov-March.
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It would maybe get Rice back to their baseball glory too.
 
duckboy33 said:
The PAC 12 will likely go back to 8 conference games pretty soon. But the PAC 12 has usually scheduled pretty high profile OOC games. I don't think that's been the problem.
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It will be harder with B1G and SEC having 9 conference games though and no Big12.

The main reason people schedule cup-cakes for OOC games is not due to strength of schedule but rather due to the home game with no return equaling more $$$$$. If Pac12 offers to travel with no return, that does fix some of those issues. (It sucks for you guys though). UCF offered Florida 2 home games and 1 away game to make that happen.
 
Volbound1700 said:
It will be harder with B1G and SEC having 9 conference games though and no Big12.

The main reason people schedule cup-cakes for OOC games is not due to strength of schedule but rather due to the home game with no return equaling more $$$$$. If Pac12 offers to travel with no return, that does fix some of those issues. (It sucks for you guys though). UCF offered Florida 2 home games and 1 away game to make that happen.
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USC and Stanford have set games against ND annually.

They key needs to be getting a schedule agreement with the Big Ten to make sure the high profile teams in each conference are getting matched up for TV purposes. I know this is something that's been discussed.
 
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