THE HATEFUL 8

78Cyclones said:
I think this is fair. Kentucky has done incredible things under Stoops including two solid Citrus Bowl wins over Penn State and Iowa. I have no idea what it would take for Kentucky to navigate the East and Georgia let alone Alabama or the bad ass team that wins the West instead of Alabama.

By comparison, while they didn't win the Trophy, Iowa State had the best record in the Big Xii in 2020 (8-1 in the regular season and 8-2 after losing to OU in the Big Xii Championship Game). There is not a universe deep enough for Iowa State to have the best record in the S.E.C. in any year ever.

OU is OU, and they are a tough, tough nut. Campbell has been fortunate to beat them twice, and the other games have been slobberknockers too. Sucked in 2020 that after beating them in Ames, they lost the rematch in Arlington, but "them's the breaks." I look for another close tussle @ JTS on 10/29.

As for Texas, ISU currently has a 3 game winning streak over the Longhorns, but they are not a measuring stick in the Big Xii to me. After OU - Baylor and OSU are the teams to beat. I'd say, ISU has been the 4th best team in the Big Xii overall since Campbell took over. Been an upper half team the past 5 years.

This year might be dicey though, as ISU just lost to Baylor. The thing about the Big Xii is that KU has been the only layup (pun intended), but that is changing too! This week, ISU is looking at the blue and red beast @ Kansas (4-0)! ISU has won 7 in a row over KU, but #8 is going to be a little tougher than normal!

Let's Go State!
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This is the point of the thread. No way the flag ship University should be hovering at the bottom of the Big12 standings year-in and year-out. I can understand a bad year or two but this has been going on for quite some time. It is one thing if they lose to Oklahoma regularly or maybe a good Iowa State here and there but this just continues on and on.

It has to be frustrating for Long Horn fans.
 
ELTEXAN said:
I started it, child? You started it in post 4, you dumb kid. It’s literally there in black n white. What a dunce fuck
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Yes... let's get back on topic about how the Big12 owns you guys like I was talking about in post 4. How you guys are possible the worse Power 5 team in your state despite the fact these other teams have a fraction of the fans and resources that your team has right now.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Yes... let's get back on topic about how the Big12 owns you guys like I was talking about in post 4. How you guys are possible the worse Power 5 team in your state despite the fact these other teams have a fraction of the fans and resources that your team has right now.
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We’re still better than the Texans, and they’re in the nfl.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Here is the thing, you guys are in the biggest state for Football and are the flagship University and yet you are getting beat (not just once a year but regularly nearly ever season) by Baylor, TCU, and Texas Tech. It isn't just matchups either, they are better programs on a consistent basis winning more games and finishing higher in Big12 standings than Texas.

Tennessee doesn't have near the resources you guys have and we are playing against Alabama who has the GOAT at coach ever year, Florida who general has more talent and sits in a state that produces more talent, and Georgia who basically is in same boat as Florida every year. Yeah it is an excuse but we have an excuse unlike Texas. I could understand Texas losing to Oklahoma or Nebraska regularly, heck even Oklahoma State who has been an underrated top program every year, but you guys are losing to and getting beat by teams who don't even have top 40 recruiting classes in your own state. No excuse for that.
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lmaoo yeah but those are p5 schools that hate us and give us their best shot.. you really think Mizzu, south carolina say " oh shit son, it's TN week!!!"

The only in state P5 program u have IS vanderbilt.. TCU/Baylor have been BETTER than y'all and even Texas Tech has had better seasons than y'all since the 2000s..

oh and there is this

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Kachina said:
Yes -

They were 11th I believe, and with Oklahoma losing, they will move up into the top 10.

Not too terribly difficult to compute for most people.
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florida is going to be in the top 10? okkkkk...
 
ELTEXAN said:
Do you even know how well funded, backed, and politically supported Baylor is?
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These are true statements but the enrollment of Baylor is WAY smaller than most of the other Big Xii schools, and I don't know how many young Texans grew up dreaming of playing for Baylor as opposed to Texas or A&M.

You just put them on the same level as Southern Cal and Notre Dame for some weird reason
 
Volbound1700 said:
He literally said Baylor and Texas Tech are on the same level as Alabama and Georgia. I think that I made my point and I am correct. Your response is lame and frankly embarrassing. Call me conference swinger but it was in response to his stupid ass post. In no reality is the Big12 on the same level of the SEC in modern Era. Perhaps when they had Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M, etc. They could have argued that.

Texas getting punted year in and year out by Baylor, Texas Tech, etc. is the equivalent of Tennessee constantly losing to MTSU, Vandy, Kentucky, Memphis, etc. It is inexcusable. Also we don't have the in-state recruits or money Texas has, no excuse for their incompetence.

Also his comment was the middle of SEC was not better than Big12 and I disagree. Butch Jones' Tennessee teams would have won 11-12 games in Big12 and he would likely still have a job. The two Oklahomas are good and sometimes Baylor, Kansas State, and TCU but the rest of the league is not that strong.

If you took the middle of SEC right now against middle of Big12, SEC would win. In fact look at bowl games most year. You have #5 SEC team against #3 Big12 team in Cotton and SEC still wins most of the time.
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lol i didn't compare baylor or tech to bama and GA.. I was just naming schools you face every year that you can hide behind as quality losses ... I can't wait to do the same..
 
Hu War Yu said:
These are true statements but the enrollment of Baylor is WAY smaller than most of the other Big Xii schools, and I don't know how many young Texans grew up dreaming of playing for Baylor as opposed to Texas or A&M.

You just put them on the same level as Southern Cal and Notre Dame for some weird reason
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they spend just as much money.. they are all in on football and basketball there
 
Thiefery said:
they spend just as much money.. they are all in on football and basketball there
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So Baylor = the Trojans and Irish.

Mmmmmnnot seeing it, Brah
 
Hu War Yu said:
So Baylor = the Trojans and Irish.

Mmmmmnnot seeing it, Brah
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well they have been better than the trojans over the same period of time as UT has been in a funk...

they have hired well outside of Art too.. Think it's all because of Rhule and Aranda?
 
Hu War Yu said:
So Baylor = the Trojans and Irish.

Mmmmmnnot seeing it, Brah
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In USC's case, if he's talking about size and type of school, Baylor and USC are similar in that they are both small, private schools. Obviously, Baylor doesn't have USC's athletic history, but other than that, they're fairly similar.
 
trojanfan12 said:
In USC's case, if he's talking about size and type of school, Baylor and USC are similar in that they are both small, private schools. Obviously, Baylor doesn't have USC's athletic history, but other than that, they're fairly similar.
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He and El Jexan seem to be trying to explain away all their recent losses to Baylor by claiming Baylor is on the same level as Notre Dame and Southern Cal.

They're not.

It just means Texas sucks, is that so hard to admit???
 
Thiefery said:
they have hired well outside of Art too.. Think it's all because of Rhule and Aranda?
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Well it can't possibly be because they're a better program than Texas and Oklahoma, or an equivalent program to Notre Dame and Southern Cal.
 
Wins (going back through 2010):
USC: 99
Baylor: 100
 
Thiefery said:
well they have been better than the trojans over the same period of time as UT has been in a funk...

they have hired well outside of Art too.. Think it's all because of Rhule and Aranda?
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Grant Teaff era wasn't too bad at Baylor. But between his run and Artie boy's it was pretty pathetic. Artie boy got them back to football respectability and earned total disrespect at the same time.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Also I think you miss the entire point of my argument, there is no way teams like Baylor should have consistently better teams than Texas but yet they do. You should own your state not just on field but in recruiting, roster, etc. I can understand blimps here and there but not all-time. The reason you are leaving Big12 is because these teams don't have fanbase/resources to compete at high level.

I can understand Texas losing to Oklahoma or even Oklahoma State as they are competitive powers but constantly losing to in-state schools with a fraction of your fanbase, money, etc. Is ridiculous. And no, those programs are not better than the middle of the SEC which is made up of state institutes that are dominant players in their state.
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fanbases dont win games.
money donesn't win games
no matter how everyone wants to see it it comes down to players, execution, coaching.
there is a reason schools like Boise did what they did and arent doing it now.
why no one was talking about Cinci 7 years ago.

its classic Rocky vs Drago
 
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