Movie The Sopranos: The Many Saints of Newark (2021)

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Been waiting for this movie for years. Trailer finally dropped today. Prequel movie to The Sopranos made by David Chase the creator of The Sopranos. From what I understand it follows Uncle June's ride. Also James Gandolfini's actual son plays young Tony Soprano in it which is super cool.


 
RememberTheKoy said:
Been waiting for this movie for years. Trailer finally dropped today. Prequel movie to The Sopranos made by David Chase the creator of The Sopranos. From what I understand it follows Uncle June's ride. Also James Gandolfini's actual son plays young Tony Soprano in it which is super cool.


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Junior is in it

But it mainly follows Tony and Dickie(Chris father).
 
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First two times I watched woulda swore it was Imperioli as Tony’s Dad in the kitchen. Lol

Little conflicted as I’ve always had a thing for Vera. But Ma is such a nasty person….
 
First time I saw this, during the Hawks game, I thought it was some cgi of John Cusack as young Ton’.

With a little Bardem from No Country look going on.
 
Just saw the trailer this evening. I remember having a “let’s see” when I saw that Gandolfini’s son would play young Tony, and kept my mind open. If the movie plays like the trailer….holy shit does he totally look like young Tony Soprano!
 
Mr.Hockey said:
Junior is in it

But it mainly follows Tony and Dickie(Chris father).
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Exactly, hence the name, Moltisanti translates to Many Saints.
 
rfjeff9 said:
Looks like Tony's younger days.

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It’s still only trailers I’ve seen….so maybe this won’t translate as well over two hours. But, I’m still blown away at how uncanny this is with Gandolphini’s son playing young Tony. This is what young Tony would look like!
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
It’s still only trailers I’ve seen….so maybe this won’t translate as well over two hours. But, I’m still blown away at how uncanny this is with Gandolphini’s son playing young Tony. This is what young Tony would look like!
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I know, was thinking this too. It looks like him.
 
rfjeff9 said:
I know, was thinking this too. It looks like him.
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My first thought on hearing this is it’s gonna suck if the kid can’t act. And that might be true yet. These are just trailers.

But the eye test is phenomenal.
 
I have never watched the Sopranos, but I am considering it.
 
Watched it. All I can say is
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All over the place, and couldn't make it's mind up on what it was about.
 
I watched it ….and not Turrible.

Here’s the thing….they are getting baked for this, and will continue to get baked for it…..for a show that always avoided fan service there is A LOT of fan service in this movie. Too much, in fact.

That might cut this movie at the knees for some….but it didn’t for me.

Every one is aptly played by younger actors. However, some (Paulie and certainly Silvio) are more caricatures than anything. It’s a shame…..you have to play it up some to instantly be seen as, say, young Silvio. But it’s a bit much. We get it…..Silvio wears a hair piece.

What I liked….

I enjoyed the brief narration points by Christopher. Thought that was clever.

Michael Gandofini makes it work. To be fair….I didn’t feel like he was asked to carry too much weight. This movie isn’t centered on him. But what weight he is given he carries well. You could tell they wanted to show the crossroads young Tony was at on his young life and Michael does a great job of balancing the smart, soulful adult he was becoming with the pull of family and street. You can easily connect young Tony at the end of the movie with the Tony we know.

Vira Formiga is just uncanny as Livia Soprano. She played a younger version of Livia exactly like I would imagine the Livia I know.

Dickie Moltisanti was the center to of their story. And he was played amazingly. Smart, cool guy. Has his shit together. What I really loved was the transcendental conflict he shows through out the movie. He shows a character trying to hold onto some humanity while living a world of hell.

As for the ending….I will give them the Junior reveal. It’s on the nose a bit too much, but it fits.

I actually do wish they would have left the murderer not be fully revealed. It eradicates some of the mystique to the story of Dickie and his impact on Tony.
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
I watched it ….and not Turrible.

Here’s the thing….they are getting baked for this, and will continue to get baked for it…..for a show that always avoided fan service there is A LOT of fan service in this movie. Too much, in fact.

That might cut this movie at the knees for some….but it didn’t for me.

Every one is aptly played by younger actors. However, some (Paulie and certainly Silvio) are more caricatures than anything. It’s a shame…..you have to play it up some to instantly be seen as, say, young Silvio. But it’s a bit much. We get it…..Silvio wears a hair piece.

What I liked….

I enjoyed the brief narration points by Christopher. Thought that was clever.

Michael Gandofini makes it work. To be fair….I didn’t feel like he was asked to carry too much weight. This movie isn’t centered on him. But what weight he is given he carries well. You could tell they wanted to show the crossroads young Tony was at on his young life and Michael does a great job of balancing the smart, soulful adult he was becoming with the pull of family and street. You can easily connect young Tony at the end of the movie with the Tony we know.

Vira Formiga is just uncanny as Livia Soprano. She played a younger version of Livia exactly like I would imagine the Livia I know.

Dickie Moltisanti was the center to of their story. And he was played amazingly. Smart, cool guy. Has his shit together. What I really loved was the transcendental conflict he shows through out the movie. He shows a character trying to hold onto some humanity while living a world of hell.

As for the ending….I will give them the Junior reveal. It’s on the nose a bit too much, but it fits.

I actually do wish they would have left the murderer not be fully revealed. It eradicates some of the mystique to the story of Dickie and his impact on Tony.
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Agree on the acting, all of them did very well, no complaints, it was just that the story was trying to do too much, but also really ended up doing nothing, and yeah too much fan service.

Also, the timeline doesn't really matchup with what the show said examples, Tony was born in 1959 so in 67 he would've been 8ish which in the show flashbacks he was, in this, he's at least 12 or so. Also it said Chris was born in 71/72 and Dickie was killed shortly after so in 71/72, Tony would've been 12-13 but he's shown as being 16-17 or so.

Also they mentioned many times that Tony, Silvio, Ralph, Jackie Sr etc grew up together and had their little crew, but in this he's at least 10-15 years older than Tony, same with Puss, whereas in the show they were both close to Tony in age, like within a year or two. And yeah, Sil seemed just like a caricature of the show Sil. Puss and Paulie were alright, not too over done, but Sil was bad.

Agree they should've left the ending more mysterious, but yeah, the reveal fits with Junior's petty, insecure personality.

IMO, it should have been a 2-3 episode miniseries instead. And get the timeline right.
 
rsw626 said:
Agree on the acting, all of them did very well, no complaints, it was just that the story was trying to do too much, but also really ended up doing nothing, and yeah too much fan service.

Also, the timeline doesn't really matchup with what the show said examples, Tony was born in 1959 so in 67 he would've been 8ish which in the show flashbacks he was, in this, he's at least 12 or so. Also it said Chris was born in 71/72 and Dickie was killed shortly after so in 71/72, Tony would've been 12-13 but he's shown as being 16-17 or so.

Also they mentioned many times that Tony, Silvio, Ralph, Jackie Sr etc grew up together and had their little crew, but in this he's at least 10-15 years older than Tony, same with Puss, whereas in the show they were both close to Tony in age, like within a year or two. And yeah, Sil seemed just like a caricature of the show Sil. Puss and Paulie were alright, not too over done, but Sil was bad.

Agree they should've left the ending more mysterious, but yeah, the reveal fits with Junior's petty, insecure personality.

IMO, it should have been a 2-3 episode miniseries instead. And get the timeline right.
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I like the mini series. They were trying to tell 3 stories. The Harold story, the Dickie story, the Tony story. Could have been an episode each and wrap up the way it did.

It is haphazard and bouncy because of this. I can’t fully reconcile Harolds story. I hate the feeling that this was response to all the criticism they got back in the show days and portraying black characters. If it’s just knee jerk that’s not good.

Plus, you would think at some point Tony would have gotten Harold. It would have happened in the show or been part of the lore.

Combine that with the date issues and you’re right. It’s sloppy. And I still enjoyed it.

But I do have a feeling crawling on me I don’t like. Part of this movie was telling the black experience. Has to be 1967 in Newark. It has to have impact on Tony somehow. That’s more likely at a coming of age 12 instead of 8. I hate to think it was all jiggered to get the black story in.
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
I like the mini series. They were trying to tell 3 stories. The Harold story, the Dickie story, the Tony story. Could have been an episode each and wrap up the way it did.

It is haphazard and bouncy because of this. I can’t fully reconcile Harolds story. I hate the feeling that this was response to all the criticism they got back in the show days and portraying black characters. If it’s just knee jerk that’s not good.

Plus, you would think at some point Tony would have gotten Harold. It would have happened in the show or been part of the lore.

Combine that with the date issues and you’re right. It’s sloppy. And I still enjoyed it.

But I do have a feeling crawling on me I don’t like. Part of this movie was telling the black experience. Has to be 1967 in Newark. It has to have impact on Tony somehow. That’s more likely at a coming of age 12 instead of 8. I hate to think it was all jiggered to get the black story in.
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The one theory I've seen that makes sense in regards to the timeline etc being mixed up is that this story was narrated by Chris, and A) since he was too young to remember anything, he only had other people's stories to go by and therefore got the dates, events, etc mixed up, and B) Chris wasn't exactly a genius, and in fact was often an idiot, and often got things wrong.
 
rsw626 said:
The one theory I've seen that makes sense in regards to the timeline etc being mixed up is that this story was narrated by Chris, and A) since he was too young to remember anything, he only had other people's stories to go by and therefore got the dates, events, etc mixed up, and B) Chris wasn't exactly a genius, and in fact was often an idiot, and often got things wrong.
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Possible. Also sounds like convenient excuse making.

Though….it’s just not like this creative team to be so sloppy as to need such an excuse. It’s all odd.

I think that they overshot past criticism on conveying a black story and that helped munch this up the most. It makes enough sense at the end on why Harold was being told….but at the same time it was trivial. The deal was between Junior and Frank Lucas.
 
rsw626 said:
The one theory I've seen that makes sense in regards to the timeline etc being mixed up is that this story was narrated by Chris, and A) since he was too young to remember anything, he only had other people's stories to go by and therefore got the dates, events, etc mixed up, and B) Chris wasn't exactly a genius, and in fact was often an idiot, and often got things wrong.
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Another theory is that the timeline of the original series is narrated by Tony, especially with flashbacks he narrates to Dr. Melfi. Tony, being the sociopath he is, is also not a reliable narrator. That’s an excuse some have given for the inconsistency in the timelines.
 
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