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The abortion discussion(sic) here brought back to mind a question. When does original sin transfer to the innocent newborn(preborn)? When do they become no longer innocents?
 
well, from there you have to ask when is a fetus a life. what is sin? from there you have to acknowledge how all religions are bullshit (believe in whatever higher power you want, but it's not coming from a book written by man to control the masses). just don't be a dick and live your best life .
 
Bender said:
well, from there you have to ask when is a fetus a life. what is sin? from there you have to acknowledge how all religions are bullshit (believe in whatever higher power you want, but it's not coming from a book written by man to control the masses). just don't be a dick and live your best life .
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Every man finds his own truth. I wish to be enlightened of others truth.
 
Kburjr said:
Every man finds his own truth. I wish to be enlightened of others truth.
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from your question, you are coming from a christian doctrine, though. if you think original sin is a thing, haven't you already made your choice on your limits of enlightenment?
 
Bender said:
from your question, you are coming from a christian doctrine, though. if you think original sin is a thing, haven't you already made your choice on your limits of enlightenment?
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Do other religions have the concept of other sin? Innocent babies? As an atheist, I reject the concept totally. Doesn't mean that all do. I lean to subjective truth.
 
Kburjr said:
Do other religions have the concept of other sin? Innocent babies? As an atheist, I reject the concept totally. Doesn't mean that all do. I lean to subjective truth.
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you just said nothing. what do you consider an innocent baby? say what you mean.

you clearly have an idea of when you think life has been born.
 
Bender said:
you just said nothing. what do you consider an innocent baby? say what you mean.

you clearly have an idea of when you think life has been born.
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I posed the question here. No hidden agenda. No gotcha moment waiting.

To those that believe in the concept of original sin, when does it occur? I merely want to know when the original sin manifest itself. Pretty straight forward. Either you know/believe in the concept or you don't.

I put this question in the Philosophy forum to escape the bullshit.
 
Kburjr said:
I posed the question here. No hidden agenda. No gotcha moment waiting.

To those that believe in the concept of original sin, when does it occur? I merely want to know when the original sin manifest itself. Pretty straight forward. Either you know/believe in the concept or you don't.

I put this question in the Philosophy forum to escape the bullshit.
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again, you posed the question here, but it was already based on your beliefs. you're not looking to be enlightened by anyone. seems pointless.
 
Kburjr said:
I am glad that you "know" that I am not looking to be enlightened. Now if only I "knew" that.
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Can't help you acknowledge your ignorance, it's in this thread plain as day. Sorry you couldn't see it.
 
Bender said:
Can't help you acknowledge your ignorance, it's in this thread plain as day. Sorry you couldn't see it.
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I will remain ignorant of the answer to my question since you obviously don't know, either.
 
Kburjr said:
I will remain ignorant of the answer to my question since you obviously don't know, either.
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your question is based completely on your beliefs. so what do you think then?
 
Kburjr said:
My question is based on a lack of knowledge. This is not a Socratic dialogue.
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again, your question was based on the concept of original sin. you have your thoughts on the subject. others would say it's not even real...
 
Bender said:
again, your question was based on the concept of original sin. you have your thoughts on the subject. others would say it's not even real...
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I already said I don't believe in the concept. The question was asked of those that do believe in the concept.

There are many questions that are based on a work of fiction. This is merely one.
 
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